August 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Tim Mackinnon

I found the place to adjust this - but I need to debug it as it seems my change also effects the colour used to highlight selected text (which is weird). If you modify the following method (possibly in a subclass), I found this helped - but havenât figured out why text highlight colour would be impacted by this change? configureWindowBorderFor: aWindow "Made window borders a bit thcker and slightly lighter to its easier to distinguish overlapping windows" | aStyle | aStyle := SimpleBorder new color: self borderColor lighter lighter lighter; width: 2. aWindow borderStyle: aStyle. Tim On 28 Aug 2017, at 01:08, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > Dimitris > > Update â there is a sort of bug in the screenshot, which I have caused. I opened the page with my usual light theme, then changed themes. This updated the colour of the background, but not the text in the foreground. If I open the same playground display with the dark theme, the text is white and shows up OK. But I still donât like it. > > Peter Kenny > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of PBKResearch > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:48 > To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > Dimitris > > Screenshot attached. Look particularly at the text in the right-hand page of the playground. Also the control buttons of the playground window â the buttons go black when the window gets focus. I opened the âAboutâ window so you can see which version I have â not yet Pharo 6.1, but not very out of date. > > Peter Kenny > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of Dimitris Chloupis > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:10 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for making it easier for you. > > Quite an irony , would not agree ? > > If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking about. > > Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to share a screenshot ? > On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons on the windows. > > Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate. > > Just my 2p worth > > Peter Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of stephan > Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference > > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same. > > The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make > Pharo6 theme dark default > > Stephan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Dimitris Chloupis

Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does significant rise. The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful as they used to assume. Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to consume and explain as we would wish. The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It took me a day to create my own theme. The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that complex. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid > eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a > root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. > > I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has > ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones > to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. > > Davorin Rusevljan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get at the Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

On OSX, you hold the Shift and Alt keys and then click on something. I think on windows its probably Shift+Alt or Shift+Ctrl. The in-image help explains this under - Pharo Environment Help - Keyboard Shortcuts - Visual Exploration. Tim > On 28 Aug 2017, at 13:33, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 8/28/17, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > .... >> >> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble. >> >> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes. >> >> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to make >> them better. >> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, usually >> makes things readable. >> >> Phil > > Phil, > > I was not aware that it is still possible to get Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0? > > How do I get at them? > > Regards > Hannes >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by H. Hirzel

On 8/28/17, Davorin Rusevljan <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid > eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a > root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. In the meantime eggs are fine again, I think :-) > I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has > ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones > to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. > > Davorin Rusevljan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Davorin Rusevljan

If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. Davorin Rusevljan

Aug. 28, 2017

[Pillar] How do I include a picture which I get from aMorph imageFrom?

by H. Hirzel

Hello Is it possible to include a in-image picture in Pillar which I get by evaluating myMorph imageForm? Or do I need to write the instance of Form I get by evaluating the expression above first as a PNG file to disk and get it from there. PNGReadWriter putForm: myMorph imageForm onFileNamed: aString If yes what is the default directory where does Pillar expects pictures -- The Pillar cheat sheet [1] and the Pillar chapter in the Pharo enterprise book no 3 [2] have an example +Caption>file://image.png|width=50|label=label+ Regards Hannes [1] http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet [2] Section 3.8 of https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Pavel, what would be the expression for building such an intermediate image out of the minimal image? This? Metacello new baseline: 'BasicTools'; repository: 'github://pharo-project/pharo:master/src'; load Regards, Thierry 2017-08-28 13:24 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several > intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image > (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, > BaselineOfBasicTools...) > > -- Pavel > > 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I >> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to >>> try to open it this way. >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra >>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing >>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to >>>> use force quit to make it close >>>> >>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit, >>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek < >>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download >>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>> >>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under >>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>> >>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>> >>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>> >>> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am no authority on dark theme because I am using my blue theme full time > and I have addressed any colour issues I had. > > Retina detachment, wow that is serious ! I hope you doing better :( > Yeah, after that, not much can really stress me out that much. And 2 x 27 inch monitors help. Pharo is great because I can make it be the way I want it to code in it. > > Well I have myopia in both eyes, my left is 6 degrees which is pretty > high. We myopics suppose to not see very well in the dark but my visual > perception is great in dark environments even in almost complete darkness. > > Its weird because as I young boy I was non stop out in the sun and I live > in Greece, here the Sun is very bright, yet it always hurt my eyes. Not > much as knife pain, but more like feeling pressure on the eye. Of course I > am not the only Greek in love with his sun glasses during summer. > > My eye doctor said it was because of my eyes being light color compared to > the usual dark coloured eyes Greeks have. But I think the reason most > likely is more mysterious :D > > Ah ah, 1/2 italian with green eyes here. I feel you. I am running with shades. Phil > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Dimitris Chloupis < >> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard >>> coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most >>> popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to >>> remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to >>> have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want >>> to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for >>> making it easier for you. >>> >>> Quite an irony , would not agree ? >>> >>> If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking >>> about. >>> >>> Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to >>> share a screenshot ? >>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes >>>> are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very >>>> uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a >>>> dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always >>>> true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text >>>> fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately >>>> switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons >>>> on the windows. >>>> >>>> Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had >>>> cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my >>>> optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my >>>> adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate. >>>> >>> >> Eye issues as well. Retinal detachment in both, and cataract on the right >> one. Loads of floaters. >> >> Light mode kills them. >> >> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble. >> >> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes. >> >> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to >> make them better. >> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, >> usually makes things readable. >> >> Phil >> >> >>> >>>> Just my 2p worth >>>> >>>> Peter Kenny >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On >>>> Behalf Of stephan >>>> Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46 >>>> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode >>>> >>>> On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>>> > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference >>>> > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same. >>>> >>>> The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does >>>> better with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to >>>> make >>>> Pharo6 theme dark default >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Pavel, Can you show how to produce an image without the following packages? Tests Spotter Glamour/GT Metacello AST/Refactoring Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2017-08-28 8:24 GMT-03:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several > intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image > (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, > BaselineOfBasicTools...) > > -- Pavel > > 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >> >> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I >> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to try >>> to open it this way. >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra dock >>>> and it stays there doing nothing >>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to use >>>> force quit to make it close >>>> >>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit, >>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek >>>> <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download >>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>> >>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name >>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>> >>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>> >>>>> -- Pavel >>> >>> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

by H. Hirzel

Dimitris Please add a direct link to the Pillar chapter on the integration server https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… The current link on the Pharo books web site is broken and this seems to be the main piece of documentation about Pillar. --Hannes On 8/26/17, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > Thanks for keep me posted about your experiments. I would like to know > where the current interface doesn't suit your needs/tastes and how easy > was to use/extend the tool. I think that mind mapping problem would be > particularly well suited for your GUI approaches. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 26/08/17 14:53, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >> mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make >> one app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio >> route and will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image >> interface for the wiki. >> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: >> >> That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT. >> >> On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for >> Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the >> tree/graph metaphor so it can make what we do with different >> metaphors right now on "offimatics" (writing, calculation and >> presentation), so this custom metaphors are interesting to me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >> On 26/08/17 12:28, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>> How would you feel if I took grafoscopio and made a custom GUI >>> for it, mainly for personal usage ? Does it use the MIT license ? >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:56 PM Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >>> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: >>> >>> No it can't. Grafoscopio Markdown nodes just plain text boxes >>> with Markdown code inside, but I would like to have at least >>> syntax hightlighting for it. What Grafoscopio can do is to >>> traverse a tree and process node headers as markdown titles, >>> footnotes and others to produce a flat Markdown file to be >>> processed by Pandoc. Also, thanks to special %metadata nodes >>> in the tree, Grafoscopio can control & feedback the Pandoc >>> command line options *inside* the notebook, increasing >>> reproducibility, just by using plain Pharo dictionaries and >>> dynamic arrays. Then, you can use the Notebook menu to export >>> as PDF by running such options from the GUI. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Offray >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26/08/17 10:31, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>>> Grafoscopio can display markdown files ? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna >>>> CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com >>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dimitris, >>>> >>>> I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown >>>> over Pillar and in fact I have advocated several of >>>> them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity for complete >>>> documentation workflows (including complete books) is >>>> similar to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other >>>> personal preferences in markup and DVCS, I think is >>>> strategic to give them support in Pharo, without >>>> precluding any work on our own tools (Monticello, >>>> Metacello, Pillar, etc.). >>>> >>>> I'll try to make some experiments with integration of >>>> Documenter in Grafoscopio and Markdown. They'll advance >>>> slowly, because time constrains now that I'm trying to >>>> finish my thesis, but once a week I'll try to show >>>> advancements and make questions. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Offray >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26/08/17 01:55, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>>>> As I said the format is not so important for me, the >>>>> reason why I chose markdown instead of pillar is >>>>> because you can edit it using github web interface >>>>> making it easier. The books will continue to use >>>>> Pillar, because making a book is obviously a lot more >>>>> sophisticated than creating a wiki that mainly has web >>>>> links to various internet locations. Pillar already can >>>>> export to markdown , latex, html and through latex it >>>>> can also export to pdf. >>>>> >>>>> After Stef requested it, I moved the wiki inside the >>>>> pharo git repository here >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo >>>>> >>>>> I also added a link to it inside the git wiki of pharo >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:17 AM Offray Vladimir Luna >>>>> CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com >>>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and >>>>> probably for documentation (via GitBooks)..., which >>>>> is not surprising considering the vast amount of >>>>> support such documentation format has and the >>>>> extensions for a complete documentation toolchain >>>>> and features. As I said, I think that is an >>>>> important syntax and we should put Scholarly/Pandoc >>>>> Markdown in the radar for documentation support in >>>>> Pharo. Is what I'm doing with Grafoscopio and now >>>>> that Pillar support is again taking momentum, the >>>>> infrastructure there (parsers, highlighters, >>>>> editors) could be extended to support Pandoc's >>>>> Markdown. >>>>> >>>>> I'll keep you posted. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Offray >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/08/17 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse >>>>>> <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:stepharo.self@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You have Netstyle/Workflow too. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> done >>>>>> >>>>>> "Why are you using markup documents to create the >>>>>> wiki when you could >>>>>> use Github wiki itself? >>>>>> >>>>>> For portability?" >>>>>> >>>>>> good question. Yes for flexibility , another >>>>>> reason however is that Github wiki is a separate >>>>>> repo and I did not want that because in the very >>>>>> back of my head I am considering the option of >>>>>> creating software to allow access to wiki from >>>>>> inside Pharo and I wanted to be all (content and >>>>>> code) in the same repo. Its a very low priority >>>>>> for now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also Github wiki is basically the same as I am >>>>>> doing with some extra format (table of contents) , >>>>>> in my case I dont care because Github allows me to >>>>>> define HTML templates that will format the wiki >>>>>> webpage and make it look a a lot more polished >>>>>> that pharo wiki looks like. Generally there are >>>>>> some cool stuff you can do with Markdown and >>>>>> Github , plus the fact that markdown can embed >>>>>> HTML etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also the option of Gitbook which has some >>>>>> nice features for generating polished and well >>>>>> structured documentation. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I like to keep my options open. For now I am >>>>>> focusing 100% on content. >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >

Aug. 28, 2017