July 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Fwd: How does instant update work in Pharo?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, Grafoscopio brings inspiration from IPython/Jupyter[1][2], Leo and, of course, Pharo/Smalltalk (among others). Recently Edward Ream, the main force behind Leo, asked my about the internals of Pharo and I would like to give him a better answer that the one I gave[4] with pointers to detailed literature. [1] http://ipython.org/ [2] http://jupyter.org/ [3] http://leoeditor.com/ [4] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/leo-editor/rYF21GxraT4 So, any details on the following question will be appreciated. Cheers, Offray -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: How does instant update work in Pharo? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 03:23:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward K. Ream <edreamleo(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: leo-editor(a)googlegroups.com To: leo-editor <leo-editor(a)googlegroups.com> I'm beginning to wonder what the difference is between the Pharo way and #511: reload-leo command. <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/511> How does Pharo handle changes in object format or methods? How does Pharo recover from crashes due to changed method signatures, invalid calls, etc? Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com <mailto:leo-editor+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor(a)googlegroups.com <mailto:leo-editor@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] 2 questions around gitlab, gitfiletree, BaselineOf

by Gabriel Cotelli

Hi Sabine, for your own baseline you don't need to specify a repository. Just load it with something like: Metacello new baseline: 'RLA24'; repository: 'filetree://disklocation/repository'; load: 'Group To Load' Also you can have local copies of your dependencies in case you don't want to use an internet connection for dowloading, just use the lock command of Metacello to "overwrite" the repository definitions. For example take a look at: https://gist.github.com/gcotelli/d4521656358786ae2aca12a70478980f Regards, Gabriel On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Sabine Manaa <manaa.sabine(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > we have our own gitlab running now and I succeeded to move our code from > sthub to it. > I can push my new code into it from Pharo. All fine. > I also created a Baseline (based on my former configurationOf). > Loading the code from others (e.g. seaside) with this baseline is also > fine. > > There are 2 Points where I am sure it could be better (it is worse) > 1) For loading my own code, I currently have a bad solution > It is in the postLoadBaseline and does this: > > | gitRepository | > gitRepository := MCFileTreeRepository new > directory: > '/Applications/Pharo5.0-7.app/Contents/Resources/spf-gitlab/repository' > asFileReference. > {'RKA24-Model' . 'RKA24-System' . 'RKA24-Translator' . > 'RKA24-View' . > 'RKA24-Test' . 'RKA24-Report' . 'RKA24-Overwrites'} > do: [ :each | > Gofer it > repository: gitRepository; > package: each; > load ]. > > I would like to load it within my baseline like this below but I dont know > what to write in the fileTreeRepository method... > > baseline: spec > <baseline> > spec > for: #common > do: [ spec blessing: #baseline. > spec repository: ##self fileTreeRepository##. > "here I load all the the oher stuff" > spec > package: 'RKA24-Model'; > package: 'RKA24-System'; > package: 'RKA24-Translator'; > package: 'RKA24-View'; > package: 'RKA24-Test'; > package: 'RKA24-Report'; > package: 'RKA24-Overwrites' ] > > 2) Also, when I take a new Image, I have to do several steps > > load gitfiletree from catalog > add/open my gitfiletree repository from Monticello > load BaselineOfRKA24 manually with > (BaselineOfRKA24 project map at: 'baseline') load > > I think this is not the best way, I would like to make it right. > > Can anyone give me some hints how to improve this two steps? > I use Pharo 5 and I don't want to go to Pharo 6 right now. > I develop on mac and production server is on windows. > > Regards > Sabine > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/2- > questions-around-gitlab-gitfiletree-BaselineOf-tp4953877.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] 2 questions around gitlab, gitfiletree, BaselineOf

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Sabine, I have makefiles to do the sort of thing you describe automatically (build an image from local, git managed repositories) and a baseline: I write stuff like ./pharo-cli pharo/Pharo.image --no-default-preferences eval --save Metacello new baseline: \'MyProject\'\; repository:\'gitfiletree://`pwd`/../src/\'\; load (works once gitfiletree has been loaded) notice the `pwd` embedded in there which allows you to put your local git clone anywhere you like. One thing I can't do, however, is having a dependency in BaselineOfMyProject to a locally hosted project (say BaselineOfANiceLib stored in ~/Project2017/ClientX/) because when I write the baseline, I can't be sure where it will be on-disk. If you're ok with gitfiletree doing the clone from gitlab on its own, one could still write a direct access to your internal gitlab server, in the baseline of MyProject, like that: spec repository: 'gitfiletree:// gitlab.intra.example.com/ANiceLib:master/placeWhereAreThePackages'; The oldest such scripts I have are for Pharo3. Does that answer your questions ? Thierry 2017-07-07 15:48 GMT+02:00 Sabine Manaa <manaa.sabine(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > we have our own gitlab running now and I succeeded to move our code from > sthub to it. > I can push my new code into it from Pharo. All fine. > I also created a Baseline (based on my former configurationOf). > Loading the code from others (e.g. seaside) with this baseline is also > fine. > > There are 2 Points where I am sure it could be better (it is worse) > 1) For loading my own code, I currently have a bad solution > It is in the postLoadBaseline and does this: > > | gitRepository | > gitRepository := MCFileTreeRepository new > directory: > '/Applications/Pharo5.0-7.app/Contents/Resources/spf-gitlab/repository' > asFileReference. > {'RKA24-Model' . 'RKA24-System' . 'RKA24-Translator' . > 'RKA24-View' . > 'RKA24-Test' . 'RKA24-Report' . 'RKA24-Overwrites'} > do: [ :each | > Gofer it > repository: gitRepository; > package: each; > load ]. > > I would like to load it within my baseline like this below but I dont know > what to write in the fileTreeRepository method... > > baseline: spec > <baseline> > spec > for: #common > do: [ spec blessing: #baseline. > spec repository: ##self fileTreeRepository##. > "here I load all the the oher stuff" > spec > package: 'RKA24-Model'; > package: 'RKA24-System'; > package: 'RKA24-Translator'; > package: 'RKA24-View'; > package: 'RKA24-Test'; > package: 'RKA24-Report'; > package: 'RKA24-Overwrites' ] > > 2) Also, when I take a new Image, I have to do several steps > > load gitfiletree from catalog > add/open my gitfiletree repository from Monticello > load BaselineOfRKA24 manually with > (BaselineOfRKA24 project map at: 'baseline') load > > I think this is not the best way, I would like to make it right. > > Can anyone give me some hints how to improve this two steps? > I use Pharo 5 and I don't want to go to Pharo 6 right now. > I develop on mac and production server is on windows. > > Regards > Sabine > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/2- > questions-around-gitlab-gitfiletree-BaselineOf-tp4953877.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Cannot keep image running.

by sergio ruiz

Correct.. it looks like the root of the problem is: Â OPTimedOutError On July 7, 2017 at 9:40:21 AM, Denis Kudriashov (dionisiydk(a)gmail.com) wrote: And the error which you show is on server side? ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key:Â http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessageÂ BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be running 32bit or 64bit pharo 6?

by sergio ruiz

I have just been doing: wget -O- get.pharo.org/64 | bash is this ok? On July 7, 2017 at 9:50:21 AM, Alistair Grant (akgrant0710(a)gmail.com) wrote: If you're on Ubuntu, the snap install includes the 32bit dependencies. Instructions are inÂ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20147 (From my phone) Cheers, Alistair On 7 Jul. 2017 14:06, "sergio ruiz" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: I am running the remote (live server - linux) and my development machine(macOS) 64bit.. On July 7, 2017 at 4:51:05 AM, Denis Kudriashov (dionisiydk(a)gmail.com) wrote: It depends on you. 64bits makes linux installation easy - no need to thing about 32bits dependency. Â ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key:Â http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessageÂ BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101 ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key:Â http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessageÂ BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be running 32bit or 64bit pharo 6?

by Alistair Grant

If you're on Ubuntu, the snap install includes the 32bit dependencies. Instructions are in https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20147 (From my phone) Cheers, Alistair On 7 Jul. 2017 14:06, "sergio ruiz" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: I am running the remote (live server - linux) and my development machine(macOS) 64bit.. On July 7, 2017 at 4:51:05 AM, Denis Kudriashov (dionisiydk(a)gmail.com) wrote: It depends on you. 64bits makes linux installation easy - no need to thing about 32bits dependency. ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com <http://www.village-buzz.com/> http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com <http://www.thoseoptimizeguys.com/> http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

July 7, 2017

2 questions around gitlab, gitfiletree, BaselineOf

by Sabine Manaa

Hi, we have our own gitlab running now and I succeeded to move our code from sthub to it. I can push my new code into it from Pharo. All fine. I also created a Baseline (based on my former configurationOf). Loading the code from others (e.g. seaside) with this baseline is also fine. There are 2 Points where I am sure it could be better (it is worse) 1) For loading my own code, I currently have a bad solution It is in the postLoadBaseline and does this: | gitRepository | gitRepository := MCFileTreeRepository new directory: '/Applications/Pharo5.0-7.app/Contents/Resources/spf-gitlab/repository' asFileReference. {'RKA24-Model' . 'RKA24-System' . 'RKA24-Translator' . 'RKA24-View' . 'RKA24-Test' . 'RKA24-Report' . 'RKA24-Overwrites'} do: [ :each | Gofer it repository: gitRepository; package: each; load ]. I would like to load it within my baseline like this below but I dont know what to write in the fileTreeRepository method... baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec blessing: #baseline. spec repository: ##self fileTreeRepository##. "here I load all the the oher stuff" spec package: 'RKA24-Model'; package: 'RKA24-System'; package: 'RKA24-Translator'; package: 'RKA24-View'; package: 'RKA24-Test'; package: 'RKA24-Report'; package: 'RKA24-Overwrites' ] 2) Also, when I take a new Image, I have to do several steps load gitfiletree from catalog add/open my gitfiletree repository from Monticello load BaselineOfRKA24 manually with (BaselineOfRKA24 project map at: 'baseline') load I think this is not the best way, I would like to make it right. Can anyone give me some hints how to improve this two steps? I use Pharo 5 and I don't want to go to Pharo 6 right now. I develop on mac and production server is on windows. Regards Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/2-questions-around-gitlab-gitfiletree-BaselineOf-tp49… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be running 32bit or 64bit pharo 6?

by Denis Kudriashov

2017-07-07 14:06 GMT+02:00 sergio ruiz <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > I am running the remote (live server - linux) and my development > machine(macOS) 64bit.. Just to notice, remote tools support all scenarios: all 64bits, all 32bits, 32bits client/64bits server and 64bits client/32bits server

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Cannot keep image running.

by Denis Kudriashov

2017-07-07 14:09 GMT+02:00 sergio ruiz <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > It is a teapot app.. > > i start it by doing something like: > > ./pharo Pharo.image âno-quit & > > after a few minutes, it becomes unresponsive, and in the terminal, i get a > stack trace, and the pharo is no longer running.. > And the error which you show is on server side?

July 7, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating my remote pharo to latest codebase..

by sergio ruiz

Sounds perfect.Â Thanks! On July 7, 2017 at 4:46:17 AM, Denis Kudriashov (dionisiydk(a)gmail.com) wrote: So idea is to script updating ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key:Â http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessageÂ BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

July 7, 2017