March 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] REfactoring - extract method.

by Stephane Ducasse

Hi mark this is probably a bug. Also the smart suggestions would need another pass to better integrate them. Can you open a bug entry? Now we are busy so this is not clear that it will be fixed. Stef On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Mark Bestley <st(a)bestley.co.uk> wrote: > In Pharo 6 I select some code and then from menu choose Suggestions > ExtractMethod > > If the code is one line it sometimes works but after the first fail it > then logs "Could not extract code from method' > > If it has multiple lines including onbe message over lines I get a > debugger call back > > In SugsNatilusContent > > selectedStatements > selectedNode isMessage ifTrue: [ ^{selectedNode} ]. > ^(selectedNode statements select: [ :stat | stat containedBy: > selectionPreviousHighligth ]) > > > selectionPreviousHighligth is nil > > > That nil is passed to RBMessageNode containedBy: sp its anInterval is nil > and it crashes. > > Apart from the bad spelling what is wrong here? > > > > -- > Mark > > >

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Build instructions for building threaded 6.0 VM on linux

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, something like this: $ git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git $ cd pharo-vm/opensmalltalk-vm/build.linux32x86/pharo.cog.spur/build $ ./mvm you will be ok as long as you provide the requirements (taken from travis): addons: apt: packages: - debhelper - devscripts - libasound2-dev - libssl-dev - libfreetype6-dev - libx11-dev - libxext-dev - gcc-multilib - uuid-dev - zip # next ones are required for compiling libgit2 - cmake - libssh2-1-dev - openssh-client - openssh-server - libtool - automake - autoconf btw, I think we do not need anymore to provide libssh2 and openssh (because we are building them too), but is not bad to have them :) cheers! Esteban > On 25 Mar 2017, at 18:13, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Would someone please point me to instructions on how to build the 6.0 > threaded VM for linux (Ubuntu). > > Thanks! > Alistair >

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Build instructions for building threaded 6.0 VM on linux

by Ben Coman

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Would someone please point me to instructions on how to build the 6.0 > threaded VM for linux (Ubuntu). Looking here... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/tree/Cog/build.linux32x86… its not the itimerheartbeat ones, so do... $ git clone https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ cd build.linux32x86/pharo.cog.spur/build $ ./mvm cheers -ben

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

by serge.stinckwich＠gmail.com

Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-) EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone > Le 25 mars 2017 Ã 18:21, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> a Ã©crit : > >> On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... >> * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, >> * browsing returned data with GTInspector, >> * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, >> * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio >> So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to >> analyse the data, >> up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it. > > The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so > - start a dozen images > - download a 12th of the data each > - in the main image aggregate search results and visualize > > Stephan > >

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

by Stephan Eggermont

On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote: > Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... > * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, > * browsing returned data with GTInspector, > * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, > * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio > So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to > analyse the data, > up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it. The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so - start a dozen images - download a 12th of the data each - in the main image aggregate search results and visualize Stephan

March 25, 2017

Build instructions for building threaded 6.0 VM on linux

by Alistair Grant

Hi Everyone, Would someone please point me to instructions on how to build the 6.0 threaded VM for linux (Ubuntu). Thanks! Alistair

March 25, 2017

REfactoring - extract method.

by Mark Bestley

In Pharo 6 I select some code and then from menu choose Suggestions ExtractMethod If the code is one line it sometimes works but after the first fail it then logs "Could not extract code from method' If it has multiple lines including onbe message over lines I get a debugger call back In SugsNatilusContent selectedStatements selectedNode isMessage ifTrue: [ ^{selectedNode} ]. ^(selectedNode statements select: [ :stat | stat containedBy: selectionPreviousHighligth ]) selectionPreviousHighligth is nil That nil is passed to RBMessageNode containedBy: sp its anInterval is nil and it crashes. Apart from the bad spelling what is wrong here? -- Mark

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing Voyage ??

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Hilaire, thing is: 1) you use github project, then the baseline spec baseline: âVoyageâ with: [ spec repository: 'github://pharo-nosql/voyage/mc <github://pharo-nosql/voyage/mc>â ]. 2) or you use the metarepo configuration spec project: 'voyage' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo'; repository: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo60/mainâ ]. why this one is not fully functional? then aside thatâ¦ one thing I do not understand is why you are develop a new project with an old (and not maintained anymore) Pharo version? Currently supported version is Pharo5, and even if Voyage is an external project, usually development follows Pharo stable versionâ¦ cheers! Esteban > On 25 Mar 2017, at 11:16, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > I try with the modified configure: > > spec project: 'voyage' with: [ > spec > className: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo'; > repository: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main'; > versionString: #stable. > ]. > > > But it does not work either. Error at installation this time. Can'find > ALL... > > > Then I tried this one: > > spec project: 'voyage' with: [ > spec > className: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo'; > repository: > 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo60/main'; > versionString: #stable. > ]. > > > In all case the installed Voyage is not fully fonctionnal > > > It is weird because my dev image is 4.0 Pharo based, and Voyage was > installed from the MetaRepoForPharo60 > > > Any ideas > > Hilaire > > > Le 25/03/2017 Ã 10:47, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >> My configure baseline is just as simple as the one bellow. >> All is loaded fine but Voyage. > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > >

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

by Ben Coman

>From 2016... "loved" means people using the language want to keep using it. https://techbeacon.com/highlights-stack-overflow-2016-developer-survey So probably more like, 2 out of 3 people using Smalltalk this year would like to / expect to be using it next year, which seems more realistic. Notice also that Rust and Smalltalk are absent from the "Dreaded" list. Being on that list may downgrade the "love" of mainstream languages. It would seem people don't use mainstream languages because they love them. And the corollary is, that you only use a non-mainstream language if you love it. Keep your eye out for the raw data dump http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey If we can validate where our high "loved" rating comes from, all the above make good marketing points. Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, * browsing returned data with GTInspector, * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to analyse the data, up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it. cheers -ben . On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > This is really strange. Because according to the survey every 2 our of 3 participants identified Smalltalk as a language they love. However Iâd say that only 1 of every 20 developers that I meet knows what Smalltalk is. > > Uko > >> On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:38, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: >>> Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results? >>> >> >> https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017 >> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Offray >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> http://www.synectique.eu >> >> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >> > >

March 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

by Yuriy Tymchuk

This is really strange. Because according to the survey every 2 our of 3 participants identified Smalltalk as a language they love. However Iâd say that only 1 of every 20 developers that I meet knows what Smalltalk is. Uko > On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:38, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: >> Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results? >> > > https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017 > >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> > > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, > 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >

March 25, 2017