February 2017 - Pharo-users

[Off topic] six degrees of separation

by Ben Coman

Idle trivia... I still like to get my daily hit of Slashdot, which linked an article by an author I like... http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/things-every-hacker-once-knew/ There I read an interesting teaser... On one widely deployed variety [of cellular modem] "AT+QLINUXCMD=" is a prefix that passes commands to an instance of Linux running in firmware on the chip itself. So I just have to goog that... AT QLINUXCMD 3G and the top link is... http://git.gnumonks.org/laforge-slides/plain/2016/cellular_modems_33c3/33c3… hey there Holger!! Cool stuff. I really should take a peek at your Pharo cell phone libraries sometime. cheers -ben

Feb. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Tim Mackinnon

Have we actually talked to Slack and asked them if they might support an active open source community? Itâs one thing what is written on a website, another if the consortium actually approached them and explained the problem - mass communication in a community who want to use their tool both personally and open-sourecy but also in industry. The latter feels like the paid market they are after - the former might take their interest. Like others, I agree that the mobile clients are easy to use and take away the friction (and we donât need more friction in something we are often doing for the joy of making things better) I would get Stef or Marcus to reach out to them. Tim > On 10 Feb 2017, at 12:26, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > There is a special price for non-profits organization: > > > The Slack for Nonprofits program offers eligible organizations a free upgrade to our Standard plan for teams of up to 250 members. For eligible teams above that size, we offer an 85% discount on the Standard plan. > > With 322 users it means that we still have to pay... > > See https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits <https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits> for more information. > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:18 PM, denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > > >> I share many of what you sayâ¦ but in the other point of view, Slack as really worked and there is a lot more happening now in Slack + mailing list than what was before just in mailing list. > >> But most of that is lost because of Slack policies (also Slack pricing model is impossible for a community as ours), and we need to find a solution for that. > > > > Yes this is too expensive for the Pharo consortium ? > > > It is per active memberâ¦ which is defined as âhas logged in the last 14 daysâ. We have 322 members. No idea how many > are active according to that definition. > > Fot 322 it would be: $8 per user per month. Which means $2576 per month or $25772 per year (taking the special yearly price into account). > > Marcus > > >

Feb. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] GitFiletree on Pharo 6

by Dimitris Chloupis

oh it has gone that far, nice By the way very nice post too, thanks Peter , bookmarked :) On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:14 PM Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 09:04:40PM +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > hey guys I was wondering where I can find the metadata less version of > > GitFiletree, the one without the meta data that caused the merge > confilcts > > > > Anyone knows ? > > GitFileTree uses metadata-less format by default; > > if you have an older GFT repo, you can switch to metadataless easily: > https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/08/05/switch-to-metadata-less-gitfilet… > > Peter > >

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] GitFiletree on Pharo 6

by Peter Uhnak

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 09:04:40PM +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > hey guys I was wondering where I can find the metadata less version of > GitFiletree, the one without the meta data that caused the merge confilcts > > Anyone knows ? GitFileTree uses metadata-less format by default; if you have an older GFT repo, you can switch to metadataless easily: https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/08/05/switch-to-metadata-less-gitfilet… Peter

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait Searchability

by Denis Kudriashov

2017-02-13 20:52 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but how does one browse Traits > in the system for inspiration when creating a new one? > In Calypso there are extra hierarchy modes: traits and trait users

Feb. 13, 2017

GitFiletree on Pharo 6

by Dimitris Chloupis

hey guys I was wondering where I can find the metadata less version of GitFiletree, the one without the meta data that caused the merge confilcts Anyone knows ?

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait Searchability

by Peter Uhnak

Traits are instances of class Trait, so you can do `Trait allInstances`. Peter On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:52:03AM -0800, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but how does one browse Traits > in the system for inspiration when creating a new one? > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Trait-Searchability-tp4934131.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [THIS IS A TEST FOR DISCORD FEEDS PLEASE IGNORE]

by Dimitris Chloupis

test again http://pharo.org/ On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:01 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Test... test ... something test > > > http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/turn-gmail-into-an-rss-reader-with-ifttt-1582… >

Feb. 13, 2017

Trait Searchability

by Sean P. DeNigris

Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but how does one browse Traits in the system for inspiration when creating a new one? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Trait-Searchability-tp4934131.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] About asSymbol message , some questions in my mind

by Igor Stasenko

On 13 February 2017 at 13:48, lb <liangbing64(a)126.com> wrote: > Just To You, :-) > Symbol , a sign with some meaning in nature language. > eg, #% = percent, #$ = dollar. > but > 2. '$%%&' asSymbol >>>> no meaning > > symbol as a message should have his meaning. defined in its method. > a message should let programmer know what to do. > > I come from China , My English is poor. > Hmm.. Then why it is so hard for you to comprehend such simple concept? In Chinese you have thousands unique glyphs, that you can use for writing, and each one has own meaning. Sometimes they literally mean something, but sometimes the meaning depends on context. That means that symbols '@#&%@#$' may not have meaning for most uses, while for some other can. This depends on context. Now if you take into account that in English, there's not so many glyphs for letter, so you have to use combination(s) of them to form words, phrases etc.. that could have meaning in specific context, while not have in other. > > Cheers. > > Bing > > å¨ 2017-02-13 07:26:05ï¼"john pfersich" <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> åéï¼ > > BUT There are not compliant below > 1. ' ' asSymbol >>>> no meaning > 2. '$%%&' asSymbol >>>> no meaning > 3. 'sign' asSymbol = 'sign ' asSymbol >>> false because of space. > 3. ' one two three ' asSymbol >>> I think It should > become three symbols = #one, #two, #three > > I don't know what you mean by "no meaning', they're symbols. > Try this in a Playground, it works in Pharo 5" > > | oc sym filtered| > oc := ' one two three $%%&' splitOn: ' '. > sym := OrderedCollection new. > oc do: [:each | sym add: each asSymbol]. > filtered := OrderedCollection new. > filtered := sym select: [ :each | each ~= #'' ]. > Transcript show: sym printString; cr. > Transcript show: filtered printString; cr. > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:56 PM, lb <liangbing64(a)126.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> I know Symbol is subclass of String. >> Any string object can become symbol object by sending 'asSymbol' message.. >> I think symbol must has its meaning in comon use, so the symbol should >> be composed of alphabet or number âwithout spaceâ. >> >> BUT There are not compliant below >> 1. ' ' asSymbol >>>> no meaning >> 2. '$%%&' asSymbol >>>> no meaning >> 3. 'sign' asSymbol = 'sign ' asSymbol >>> false because of space. >> 3. ' one two three ' asSymbol >>> I think It should >> become three symbols = #one, #two, #three >> >> >> Mybe my understanding is wrong. >> >> Bing Liang >> >> >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 13, 2017