February 2017 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

by Stephan Eggermont

On 18/02/17 16:32, Hilaire wrote: update, this should NOT happen. > Now image comes with a Configuration Browser, if I understand correctly > its intend, an user is expected those configurations to work happily > together, but it looks like not, some configurations will request update > breaking package previously installed from this configuration browser. That is probably its intent, but there is nothing in place making that likely. The classic example is the combination of Magritte and Seaside. Both can be used independently, and there is no way to infer that you are likely to want the magritte-seaside group when you install the combination. What works well is installing one configuration in a fresh image. > May be it is more a policy problem on the quality of the configuration > than a tool problem, a lot can be learn from Debian packaging. I don't have that impression. They seem to have the same problem with old and less-used stuff. Stephan

Feb. 20, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Voyage for Pharo4

by Dale Henrichs

Hilaire, I mentioned last night that I thought that there was a better solution to your problem and I think that if you load the latest Metacello and then lock Seaside3: Metacello image configuration: 'Seaside3'; version: '3.1.5'; "most recent 3.1.x version" lock. Then load Voyage, you shouldn't have the problem with Seaside being updated to 3.2. Seaside does not support upgrade across minor version numbers like 3.1 to 3.2 ... if the upgrade to 3.2 was allowed, you wouldn't have this particular problem. The Metacello lock command was invented so that a developer could take ownership of the version of the projects used in their image. It is not always desirable to upgrade to a later version of a project without extensive testing (whether or not the actual load to the new version is successful), so the lock command allows you to control which versions of projects are loaded by Metacello by overriding the choices made by other developers ... You can even lock versions of projects that are not yet loaded. I am still curious as to my Seaside and Magritte are linked together --- I suspect that somehow the Magritte-Seaside package got loaded and once that happened you were off to the races. Dale [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloUse… On 2/18/17 7:32 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Dale, > > May be you don't want to waste anymore time on that. Thanks for your > effort. I got a way to get Voyage installed in my development image. > > Not sure what wrong, because something is wrong[1], but I got the things > installed, first update to Seaside, which break when upgrading the > Seaside installed from the configuration browser, fix the seaside broken > installation, then install Voyage which went fine. Did not test Voyage > is working though. > > Hilaire > > [1]The Pharo4 configuration browser's Magritte3 is installing Seaside > update, this should NOT happen. > Now image comes with a Configuration Browser, if I understand correctly > its intend, an user is expected those configurations to work happily > together, but it looks like not, some configurations will request update > breaking package previously installed from this configuration browser. > May be it is more a policy problem on the quality of the configuration > than a tool problem, a lot can be learn from Debian packaging. For > example Debian stable is released only when quality is ok, don't know > the details but they don't like to rush for release and people complain > new stable release take too much time to emerge, the price for quality? > For me Pharo fells too fuzzy, and it makes me very sceptical for > reliability; may be not nice to write and to read but it is how I fell. > I may be biased and I don't mean bad to anyone writing this, I know how > quality is hard to achieve and Pharo teams did great endeavour in many > aspects. > > > > > Le 17/02/2017 Ã 22:15, Dale Henrichs a Ã©crit : >> Again, thanks for detailed info ... >> >> The fact that you loaded Seaside3.1.x is good enough for my purposes >> .. the fact that Seaside3.2 is getting installed implies that there is a >> hard dependency on Seaside in one of the projects (Magritte3 perhaps?) >> ... odd that ConfigurationOfSeaside3 wasn't downloaded this time around >> --- Can you get the package version of ConfigurationOfSeaside3 that's in >> the image after the `Metacello new` loads?... I'll have to dive into the >> configurations now ...

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Seeking support: Vote for Jigyasa Grover for Red Hat International Women in Open Source Academic Awards 2017

by Hayatou Oumarou

VotedÂ ------------------------------------ Hayatou Oumarou (+237)699470504 Le Dimanche 19 fÃ©vrier 2017 6h09, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : Thank You Ben, Pharo was indeed a kick-starter ! Many thanks for your kind words Offray :) Thanks Stepharo ! It'll be great if you could help spread the word and urge others to vote for ma as well. Cheers. Jigyasa -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Seeking-support-Vote-for-Jigyasa-Grover-for-Red-Hat-I… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window

by chrismihaylyk

Thank you! 2017-02-19 18:14 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4934960h61(a)n4.nabble.com>: > Probably > > books.pharo.org > > http://files.pharo.org/books/spec-tutorial/ > > > > On 19 Feb 2017, at 16:59, chrismihaylyk <[hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4934960&i=0>> wrote: > > > > No, I didn't read it. > > Would you please tell me where I can find this book? > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adding- > TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp4934945p4934958.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically- > into-window-tp4934945p4934960.html > To unsubscribe from Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window, click > here > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp49… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Probably books.pharo.org http://files.pharo.org/books/spec-tutorial/ > On 19 Feb 2017, at 16:59, chrismihaylyk <chrismihaylyk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No, I didn't read it. > Would you please tell me where I can find this book? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp49… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Strange behavior

by Mark Neagu

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window

by chrismihaylyk

No, I didn't read it. Would you please tell me where I can find this book? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp49… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Strange behavior

by Ben Coman

You might tick Regexp and search for... now$ cheers -ben On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Because 'now' is a case insensitive substring of each of those selectors (like ..known.. or ..nOwner.. , both seem quite common). > >> On 19 Feb 2017, at 12:20, Mark Neagu <mark(a)mneagu.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> The Finder has answered my question but the proper answers were sort of hidden in a heap of apparently insignificant answers. >> >> I'm sure it's useful and I would like to understand how, if someone is gentle enough to tell me. >> >> Cheers, >> Mark<Finder does strange things.jpg> > >

Feb. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window

by stepharong

did you read the chapter on dynamic spec on the spec book? On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:51:58 +0100, chrismihaylyk <chrismihaylyk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I need to add dynamically widgets of TextModel to the ComposableModel > window. > > For example: The object of ComposableModel window is created and opened, > and > I have a button "Add", if I press the button new TextModel textbox added > and > showed at the window. > Can anyone help me, please, what I need for implementation this logic? > > Thanks ^_^ > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp49… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Feb. 19, 2017

Adding TextModel widgets dynamically into window

by chrismihaylyk

Hi! I need to add dynamically widgets of TextModel to the ComposableModel window. For example: The object of ComposableModel window is created and opened, and I have a button "Add", if I press the button new TextModel textbox added and showed at the window. Can anyone help me, please, what I need for implementation this logic? Thanks ^_^ -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adding-TextModel-widgets-dynamically-into-window-tp49… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 19, 2017