November 2017 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

by Richard A. O'Keefe

I'm obviously missing a lot of the context here, but in my country (New Zealand) there is something called the Fair Trading Act. My understanding from reading the Commerce Commission web site is that - false or misleading representations about goods or services or the availability of goods are against the law - "The penalties for breaching the Act can be severe" (Grant Harris). - obviously wild exaggerations made to be funny are sort of OK, but if anyone falls for them you could find this tested in court - "Any claims made to bolster the image of a business or its products or services must be accurate." - "The Act applies even when there was no intention to breach the Act". (Grant Harris again.) http://www.comcom.govt.nz/fair-trading/fair-trading-act-fact-sheets/claimin… The Fair Trading Act was passed as part of a program of market liberalisation and in order to foster competition and market efficiency, and the majority of the cases have been trader-to- trader. Why mention this? Because it's not just places where consumer protection is high-ranked that have such laws; it's also places that are gung-ho about free markets and competition and want to protect businesses. Law in the USA varies from state to state. For California, see https://www.truthinadvertising.org/california/ (which has a navbar on the right for other states). Me, I think Pharo is good enough to "sell" on its merits without any exaggerations. (If you could combine the great looks of Dolphin Smalltalk with the great features of Pharo, drool...)

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

by Julien

So the fix is just to relaunch the build? :-) Julien > Le 19 nov. 2017 Ã 19:56, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Le 19/11/2017 Ã 19:54, Julien a Ã©crit : >> Hello, >> >> Iâm trying to set up continuous integration for one of my project but I >> have an error with the CRC of the VM (see the >> log https://travis-ci.org/juliendelplanque/PostgreSQLParser/jobs/304401690) >> >> Is it my fault? >> > > Not your fault. It happen also randomly on Synectique's CI. > >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Julien > > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > https://ferlicot.fr > > http://www.synectique.eu > 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, > 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Travis build failing because of bad CRC

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 19/11/2017 Ã 19:54, Julien a Ã©critÂ : > Hello, > > Iâm trying to set up continuous integration for one of my project but I > have an error with the CRC of the VM (see the > logÂ https://travis-ci.org/juliendelplanque/PostgreSQLParser/jobs/304401690) > > Is it my fault? > Not your fault. It happen also randomly on Synectique's CI. > Thanks in advance, > > Julien -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Nov. 19, 2017

Travis build failing because of bad CRC

by Julien

Hello, Iâm trying to set up continuous integration for one of my project but I have an error with the CRC of the VM (see the log https://travis-ci.org/juliendelplanque/PostgreSQLParser/jobs/304401690 <https://travis-ci.org/juliendelplanque/PostgreSQLParser/jobs/304401690>). Is it my fault? Thanks in advance, Julien

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Andrew, Thanks for sharing those articles. Is nice to see that Grafoscopio is showcased in the "little brother" story. I agreed that most of the processing could be happening on the edges of the network instead of in the Big Data centers (Cisco CEO thinks the same, which is not surprising). I defined such edges as "pocket infrastructures"Â which is an arrangement of tools which are characterized for being simple, self contained, and working fine on-line and off-line and run in a wide spectrum of hardware, from USB drives to modest laptops and beyond (and in between), which contrast sharply with the exclusionary discourse, infrastructure and practice of "Big Data" and the classical idea of predicting the future by hyping only a part of it. Using such pocket infrastructures (as Grafosocpio and Fossil, linked in the previous mail), we can put in "everybody's pockets" the tools for being a data/digital citizen, instead in only the places with "deep pockets" (money, resources, big data centers, monstrous data bases & data sets and so on), and with some prototypes, like the one of the Panama Papers, we have showed that is possible to approach in a more inclusive way, problems that has been approached only from the Big Data perspective. This also means an alternative way of dealing with data. Instead of being the data threshing machine that tries to process everything, we try to "build the magnet to find the needle in the haystack", focusing on frictionless interconnected data [1] and zooming out from there. [1] https://blog.okfn.org/2013/04/24/frictionless-data-making-it-radically-easi… <https://blog.okfn.org/2013/04/24/frictionless-data-making-it-radically-easi…> Also was nice to see your philosophical approach to objects and your conversation with Kay. There he touches aspects that are told also in the prologue for Stephan's book about Learning programming with robots. By the way, I have noticed that your post don't include a lot of external links. For example the part where you mention notebooks could link to Grafoscopio[2] and the part where you mention agile visualization could point to Roassal[3]. Any reason for not including external links? Is that a style choice? [2] http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html [3] http://agilevisualization.com/ Cheers, Offray On 18/11/17 10:50, Andrew Glynn wrote: > > Hereâs a list of the articles @ https://medium.com/@dasein42/latest, > in case any catch your eye: > > Â > > Latest > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 14 > > âDynamics Trumps Semanticsâ: Why Java is Easy to Learn, but Difficult > to be Good at. > > Â > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 8 > > IoT Initiativeââââlittle brotherâ > > Â > > The core notion behind âlittle brotherâ is to overcome the inevitable > lag between the increase inâ¦ > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 7 > > Software Developer Tooling: Then and Now > > Â > > While my criticisms of current tooling for development are often met > with an attitude ofâ¦ > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 6 > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 5 > > Â > > The Inverted Ambiguity of the Post-Modern Public, or Not > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 5 > > Someone Was Asking About Devops â¦ > > Â > > Someone I know was asking me about devops the other day, particularly > the number and variety ofâ¦ > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 5 > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 5 > > Reality and the âSimpleâ True, or the True-in-Itself, or the Truth > > Â > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 5 > > What is Intended by the term âObject-Orientedâ? > > Â > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 1 > > 1 response > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 4 > > Pharo Smalltalk as a DSL Without a DSL > > Â > > If anyone has written a DSL in Eclipse, for example, simply the base > projects Eclipseâ¦ > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 22 > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 4 > > Â > > Tooling: Design of Meta and Underlying Rationale > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 2 > > Â > > How the Results of Disruption Changes the Discussion Between > Aficionados of Specific Languages and Environments > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 2 > > Disrupted Software the Disrupted Software Industry Uses to Build > Disruptive Software > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 2 > > Software is Virtual; the Virtual is Disruptive; Software Disrupts the > Development of Software > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Nov 2 > > Three Comments from a Conversation on a Mailing List > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 10 > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Oct 28 > > Reasons â¦ and Reasons , How the Software Industry Turns its Issues > into Subscriptions > > Â > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 12 > > Â > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Oct 19 > > A Commentary On Three Quotes From âWorking on the Go Team at Googleâ > > (https://medium.com/@ljrudberg/working-on-the-go-team-at-google-917b2c8d35ff) > > âFirst, a little bit about myself: I am 23 years old, less than two > years out of my undergrad degree at UWâ¦ > > Read moreâ¦ > > Â > > 1 response > > Go to the profile of Andrew Glynn > > Andrew Glynn > > Oct 11 > > Building-With Versus Building-On: > > Improving Software Development Incrementally > > Three articles and a doctoral thesis that I came across or had pointed > out to me recently deal with the state of the software industry from > different angles. However different they are, they do relate, and by > putting themâ¦ > > Â > > Â > > *From: *Dimitris Chloupis <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:10 AM > *To: *Any question about pharo is welcome > <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort > > Â > > > First of all, you need to understand that this article, like > nearly all of > my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones > about > this. > > If you know anything about marketing, you know that it involves > exaggeration > and hyperbole. It sometimes involves bending the truth. The point of > marketing is to persuade on an emotional level, not a logical one. > > This is exactly what companies like Apple and Microsoft do. If you > think > Apple ads tell the absolute truth, then you are terribly naive. > > So, is Pharo being used to fight Ebola? Not exactly, but who > cares? I'm > trying to change people's perception. I'm trying to *move* them. > If I have > to exaggerate, I will do so. > > Â > > Actually there is a guy that I know that he actually cares > > Â > > very much > > Â > > he is calledÂ > > Â > > "Mr Law" > > Â > > When a marketing , bends the truth and especially when it lies under > UK, GreekÂ and European Law is called "fraud" and it punishable under > crimininal (jail time) and civil (compensation for damaged cause by > fraudalent marketing) law. The penalties can be extemely severe if the > fraud caused a substantial amount of damage in some way. > > Â > > Under those legal systems I have studied (I am a lawyer) the only case > that someone is allowed to lie is when he defiends himself. If you > ever wondered how its possible lawyers to lie , now you know. Lying > and bending the truth in this case is a legal principe set since > ancient times by law to provide extra pressure to prove the a party is > guilty. Its called "proof beyond reasonable doubt" and isÂ a very > important legal principle.Â > > Â > > Outside that, say I submited a document as a defense lawyer that is > edited or changed in some way , its fraud and especially fraud against > the court is even more punished. If a witeness , exaggerates , bends > the truth and especially if he or she lies, its fraud and the court > can send him straigh to jail with his lawyer. > > Â > > Apple certainly does not do what you. > > Â > > Actually Apple goes to great lenghts proving its claims , usually when > Apple says "iPhone has a battery of 10 hours" you will see an asterisk > that will point you to small letters in the bottom of the page that > says exactly under which conditions 10 hours can be achieved.Â > > Â > > On the other hand its use of words like "magical" is not of objective > value and by no means can misled or tell a lie because well, magic > does not exist. The law assumes the a person has at least average > intelligence and knowledge (exceptions of course people with mental > disablities).Â Most of the words that Apple uses in the ads that could > be considered lies or bend truth are purely subjective terms.Â > > Â > > https://www.apple.com/iphone/ > > Â > > "*Your face is now your password. FaceÂ ID is a secure and private new > way to unlock, authenticate, andÂ pay."* > > Â > > Say some experts come forward and prove that Apple's technology is not > safe and especially if they prove that Apple knew it was not safe when > it launched it, Apple is liable under law for fraud.Â > > Â > > There is of course a lot of illegal marketing out there, fraud after > all is according to my experience the most common offenses that I have > came accross in my 10 years carrier as a lawyer , but I can assure you > just it may happen quite often does not make it any less illegal. You > going to be shocked how many illegal things happens on the internet > and the law's complexity and sophistication in providing protection > against those things. > > Â > > Of course I am not saying that someone is going to bother sue you > tommorow, as its highly unlikely that someone will take your posts > seriously as they are dominated by exaggerations and I have told you > so many times in the past. But that does not mean he cannot.Â > > Â > > Maybe USA law is more relaxed, because it not the most respected legal > system, as USA has a notorious bad record with human right and > consumer protection. But none the less I can promise you in Europe, > what you do is not legal and there are special legislation to protect > consumers for these scenarios. > > Â >

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Grease for Pharo7: TBehavior extensions?

by Pavel Krivanek

2017-11-19 13:28 GMT+01:00 Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: > Hi Pharoers, > > We have one failing test for Grease in Pharo7. > The reason is that Grease extends the TBehavior trait with a method > #fullName. > > I notice this trait is no longer used? Are we supposed to extend Behavior > directly? > Overall: what are the plans? > Yes, you should extend the Behavior and other TBehavior users directly. -- Pavel > > Some advice would be good so I can keep Grease into shape. > > thanks everyone > Johan >

Nov. 19, 2017

Grease for Pharo7: TBehavior extensions?

by Johan Brichau

Hi Pharoers, We have one failing test for Grease in Pharo7. The reason is that Grease extends the TBehavior trait with a method #fullName. I notice this trait is no longer used? Are we supposed to extend Behavior directly? Overall: what are the plans? Some advice would be good so I can keep Grease into shape. thanks everyone Johan

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy headless app without changes and source files?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 19 Nov 2017, at 01:54, despotadesdibujau <despotadesdibujau(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I applied the solution of Sven over a minimal image of Pharo and it works! > I created a script to disable the calls to sources and changes and then I > deleted those. > The complete tutorial for use the minimal image is here > <https://despotadesdibujau.github.io/southsmalltalks/how-to-deploy-in-pharo> I just wanted to add that NoChangesLog and NoPharoFilesOpener are standard parts of Pharo 7 (I forgot when we actually added them).

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

by horrido

> Apple certainly does not do what you. Really??? I don't know what kind of ads Apple runs in Europe, but in North America, it's very obvious when Apple exaggerates or bends the truth. Remember those popular "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" ads from a few years ago? They had all kinds of exaggerations and half-truths about the benefits of Mac vs the drawbacks of PC. For example, the Mac OS has never had significant upgrade problems the way Vista had? Who the hell believes this? The Mac has many default apps included that obviate the need to buy additional software? Sorry, that's bullcrap. I do video editing, and I find the included video editor on the Mac to be too limited and inflexible, so I have to look for third-party software. The Mac is better at creative stuff than PC? That, too, is bullcrap. The Mac is immune to viruses and spyware? No need to comment on this lie. In my articles, I have never made an outright lie. I've made exaggerations but that's not against the law. Everything I state always has a grain of truth. And remember, I am still entitled to literary licence. What does European law have to say about literary licence? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Nov. 19, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy headless app without changes and source files?

by Holger Freyther

> On 7. Jun 2017, at 17:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: Hi, > > Note: it might be possible that some code fails due to missing method sources, YMMV. does the exception handling code need the sources files? Anecdotical I had some issues (exception handling causing exception handling taking 99% CPU and filling up the debug log) which went away after installing the source files. cheers holger

Nov. 19, 2017