October 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying on Linux with LibC version < 2.15

by Holger Freyther

> On 5. Oct 2017, at 22:22, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Your instructions describes the steps for CentOS 6.x. Are they the > exact same steps for RHEL6? I don't have a RHEL subscription but I assumed they are similar but OBS even produces RHEL packages: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/stable/… > Also, I am trying this on a CentOS 6.0 virtual machine and I get this error : > > [centoslive@livecd test]$ yum-config-manager --add-repo > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit > Usage: "yum-config-manager [options] [section] > > Command line error: no such option: --add-repo > [centoslive@livecd test]$ > > > Is there something else to install before? Not sure. Even the RHEL documentation mentions --add-repo exists. I assume you can download the .repo[1] file and put it in the right directory? holger [1] RHEL6: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/stable/… CentOS6: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/stable/…

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying on Linux with LibC version < 2.15

by Cyril Ferlicot

On 10/5/17, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > > Hi! > > > for a brief moment you really scared me. I thought you referred to RedHat > Linux 6 which was released in 1999 but you are referring to Red Hat > Enterprise Linux (RHEL). > > As it turns out we have "latest" (as soon as a commit is made to > pharo-vm.git) and hand curated "stable" (hand created source tarballs, > rebuilt from a git commit of opensmalltalk-vm) for RHEL6 and CentOS 6. > > CentOS 6.x: > > # Add the repo > $ yum-config-manager --add-repo > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… > > OR (for stable): > > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… > > # Install 32bit packages (with X11 dependency for *-ui or not) > > $ yum install pharo6-32-ui.i686 or pharo6-32.i386 > > # Install 64bit packages > > $ yum install pharo6-64-ui.x86_64 pharo6-64.x86_64 > > Thank you. Your instructions describes the steps for CentOS 6.x. Are they the exact same steps for RHEL6? Also, I am trying this on a CentOS 6.0 virtual machine and I get this error : [centoslive@livecd test]$ yum-config-manager --add-repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit Usage: "yum-config-manager [options] [section] Command line error: no such option: --add-repo [centoslive@livecd test]$ Is there something else to install before? > > > > -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Open Sourcing the Data Journalism Handbook with Grafoscopio

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Ben, Your words are encouraging as always. Is really worthy to count with people like you, that you care so much for the community and have always time for suggestions and support in several members projects and issues. Cheers, Offray On 05/10/17 08:50, Ben Coman wrote: > Great to hear every time your progress with this.Â That "Handbook > Hack" mentioned on the DJH site looks like a good place to promote > Grafoscopio. > > cheers -ben > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > > Upps... I copied and pasted parts of my original post in the Open > Knowedge Forum, so it seems that it got scrambled with some extra > information from there here. > > Anyway I hope the message is clear. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 04/10/17 21:09, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Recently, in our local hackerspace <http://hackbo.co/>, we used, >> extended and adapted, Grafoscopio >> <http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html> to recreate the >> first open source version of the Data Journalism Handbook >> <http://datajournalismhandbook.org/>, in Spanish. Quoting from >> the project page: >> >> There are some interesting Free Cultural Works >> <http://freedomdefined.org/Definition> which are not open >> sourced. >> This means that, they are covered under pretty liberal licenses, >> allowing their remix, sale and modification, but the >> infrastructures >> which support the creation, modification and publishing of >> such works, >> donât allow wide participation and deep traceability of their >> history of >> such collective endeavors. >> >> This is our approach about alternative ways for creating such >> works, >> addressing the above problem, using the Data Journalism >> Handbook as an >> example (English <http://datajournalismhandbook.org/>, >> Spanish <http://interactivos.lanacion.com.ar/manual-data/>) >> and /pocket infrastructures/, which are simple, self >> >> contained, and work well on-line and off-line, like Fossil >> <http://fossil-scm.org/> and >> Grafoscopio <http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html>. >> Also we extended and adapted Grafoscopio, during this project, >> to make the tool suit the problem (and not the usual other >> way around). >> >> More information and downloadable files in the project source >> code repository: >> >> http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/mapeda/ >> <http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/mapeda/> >> >> This is also an example of the kind of books you can create now >> with/inside Grafoscopio (with Pandoc). >> >> And, of course, the customary screenshots: >> >> photo532578960227822324 >> >> photo5082366090373343168 >> >> Captura de pantalla del manual en Grafoscopio. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> > >

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Open Sourcing the Data Journalism Handbook with Grafoscopio

by Ben Coman

Great to hear every time your progress with this. That "Handbook Hack" mentioned on the DJH site looks like a good place to promote Grafoscopio. cheers -ben On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > Upps... I copied and pasted parts of my original post in the Open Knowedge > Forum, so it seems that it got scrambled with some extra information from > there here. > > Anyway I hope the message is clear. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 04/10/17 21:09, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > > Hi, > > Recently, in our local hackerspace <http://hackbo.co/>, we used, extended > and adapted, Grafoscopio <http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html> > to recreate the first open source version of the Data Journalism Handbook > <http://datajournalismhandbook.org/>, in Spanish. Quoting from the > project page: > > There are some interesting Free Cultural Works > <http://freedomdefined.org/Definition> which are not open sourced. > This means that, they are covered under pretty liberal licenses, > allowing their remix, sale and modification, but the infrastructures > which support the creation, modification and publishing of such works, > donât allow wide participation and deep traceability of their history of > such collective endeavors. > > This is our approach about alternative ways for creating such works, > addressing the above problem, using the Data Journalism Handbook as an > example (English <http://datajournalismhandbook.org/>, Spanish > <http://interactivos.lanacion.com.ar/manual-data/>) and *pocket > infrastructures*, which are simple, self > > contained, and work well on-line and off-line, like Fossil > <http://fossil-scm.org/> and > Grafoscopio <http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html>. Also we > extended and adapted Grafoscopio, during this project, > to make the tool suit the problem (and not the usual other way around). > > More information and downloadable files in the project source code > repository: > > http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/mapeda/ > > This is also an example of the kind of books you can create now > with/inside Grafoscopio (with Pandoc). > > And, of course, the customary screenshots: > > [image: photo532578960227822324] > > [image: photo5082366090373343168] > > [image: Captura de pantalla del manual en Grafoscopio.] > > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > >

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying on Linux with LibC version < 2.15

by Holger Freyther

> On 5. Oct 2017, at 18:08, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel(a)pckswarms.ch> wrote: > > Hi, Hi! > Well, our redhat 6.9 systems have 2.12, so, that qualifies. > > And yes, we still have RedHat 6, and 6.9 was released only 6 months ago! It will finish extended support in a mind-blowing 7 more years in 2024. > > Redhat 5, still supported for another 3 years till 2020 has glibc 2.5. for a brief moment you really scared me. I thought you referred to RedHat Linux 6 which was released in 1999 but you are referring to Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). As it turns out we have "latest" (as soon as a commit is made to pharo-vm.git) and hand curated "stable" (hand created source tarballs, rebuilt from a git commit of opensmalltalk-vm) for RHEL6 and CentOS 6. CentOS 6.x: # Add the repo $ yum-config-manager --add-repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… OR (for stable): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… # Install 32bit packages (with X11 dependency for *-ui or not) $ yum install pharo6-32-ui.i686 or pharo6-32.i386 # Install 64bit packages $ yum install pharo6-64-ui.x86_64 pharo6-64.x86_64

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Ben Coman

Nice article. I like the way you've structured it and pushed the "updated" angle. I feel a bit too strong a claim is laid on Pharo producing the CogVM. Much of the Cog + Spur + 64bit VM work was originally done for Squeak with Pharo riding the coat-tails of that work. Lately Pharo community has been involved in improving VM with hotspot optimisation with Sista and moving towards making Pharo embeddable.. (@Clement, is "hotspot optimsation" fair as a short tagline for inter-language comparison?) So maybe say "the Pharo project has been involved in producing: ... * the 64-bit Spur/Cog VM (used also by Squeak, Cuis and Newspeak) * hotspot optimisation with Sista * working towards embedding Pharo as a game scripting language" (not sure on that last one) cheers -ben On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk > <https://medium.com/smalltalk-talk/behold-pharo-the-modern- > smalltalk-38e132c46053> > > If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to improve > the impact of the article. > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] 6.1 Stable 64 - Crash when loading repository

by JuliÃ¡n Maestri

Sorry for the delay. $ uname -a Linux PC51 4.4.0-96-generic #119-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 12 14:59:54 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS Release: 16.04 Codename: xenial On 4 October 2017 at 17:09, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Julian > > Thanks for the report. > on which OS are you? > > Stef > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:33 PM, JuliÃ¡n Maestri <serpi90(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On a clean image from get.pharo.org/64/ > > Attempting to load the following repository > > > > Metacello new > > baseline: 'WillowBootstrap'; > > repository: 'github://ba-st/Willow-Bootstrap:master/source'; > > load. > > > > Consistently causes a VM crash (crash.dump in attatchment). > > > > This does not happen with the 32 bit image. > > > > Image + VM details > > > >> Image > >> ----- > >> /home/jmaestri/Pharo/workspace/Pharo.image > >> Pharo6.0 > >> Latest update: #60510 > >> Unnamed > >> Virtual Machine > >> --------------- > >> /home/jmaestri/Pharo/workspace/pharo-vm/lib/pharo/ > 5.0-201707201942/pharo > >> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2254 uuid: > >> 4f2c2cce-f4a2-469a-93f1-97ed941df0ad Jul 20 2017 > >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2252 uuid: > >> 2f3e9b0e-ecd3-4adf-b092-cce2e2587a5c Jul 20 2017 > >> VM: 201707201942 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git > $ > >> Date: Thu Jul 20 12:42:21 2017 -0700 $ Plugins: 201707201942 > >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ > >> Unix built on Jul 20 2017 20:40:36 Compiler: 4.6.3 > >> VMMaker versionString VM: 201707201942 > >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ Date: Thu Jul > 20 > >> 12:42:21 2017 -0700 $ Plugins: 201707201942 > >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ > >> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2254 uuid: > >> 4f2c2cce-f4a2-469a-93f1-97ed941df0ad Jul 20 2017 > >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2252 uuid: > >> 2f3e9b0e-ecd3-4adf-b092-cce2e2587a5c Jul 20 2017 > > > > > > > > > >

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] SVG Icons

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, this is not really tested, but you can try to do the following (installation) a) install XMLParser from catalog b) in monticello browser open Pharo/Athens and load latest version of Athens-SVG package (usage) Then you import SVG XML using Converter and paint it on a surface, which you convert to Form. ``` contents := (ZnEasy get: 'https://s.cdpn.io/3/kiwi.svg') contents. xmlDoc := XMLDOMParser parse: contents. svg := AthensSVGConverter new importXMLDocument: xmlDoc. svg transform: 'scale(0.5)'. extent := 500 @ 500. surface := AthensCairoSurface extent: extent. surface drawDuring: [ :aCanvas | svg renderOn: aCanvas ]. surface asForm. ``` [image: Inline image 1] Peter On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Steven R. Baker <steven(a)stevenrbaker.com> wrote: > Heya folks! > > I need to load SVG images (for icons) in my application. I've searched > my 6.1 image for SVG, but haven't found anything. > > Is there a library for loading SVGs? I'd really like to get them > directly into instances of Form if possible, but I'm flexible. :) > > Thanks! > > -Steven > > > >

Oct. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Deploying on Linux with LibC version < 2.15

by phil＠highoctane.be

CentOS6.9 for one. Phil On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > > > On 4. Oct 2017, at 17:39, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am migrating some applications from Pharo 4 to Pharo 6. The new > > deployment of those applications needs to work on linux with LibC < > > 2.15. With Pharo 4 there was a special VM[1]. I do not see such VM for > > Pharo 6. > > Which OS has such old versions of LibC? Which LSB standard does it support? > > >

Oct. 5, 2017

SVG Icons

by Steven R. Baker

Heya folks! I need to load SVG images (for icons) in my application. I've searched my 6.1 image for SVG, but haven't found anything. Is there a library for loading SVGs? I'd really like to get them directly into instances of Form if possible, but I'm flexible. :) Thanks! -Steven

Oct. 5, 2017