October 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

by Christophe Demarey

Hi Gabriel, > Le 6 oct. 2017 Ã 15:48, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > I've tried it on Linux, and after the download has finished it cannot launch a Pharo 6.1 image. Find attached the PharoDebug.log > > Seems it's searching for the sources file in a wrong location. > Pharo cannot locate the sources file named /home/gcotelli/Pharo/pharo-launcher/bin/lib/pharo/5.0-201707201942/PharoV60.sources. Strange indeed! Iâm not able to reproduce it on my ubuntu vm. Itâs surprising that sources file is search in the folder of the VM shipped with the launcher. Images are run with VM downloaded in the VM store ($HOME/Pharo/vms) and sources file is search in the vm directory. Could you tell me if you run the launcher from a terminal? Could you send me your environment variables to see if I can find something relevant there?

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Richard Sargent

Yes. We have tools that are *designed* for reading code and understanding it. But, let's have a ton of dead bits instead. On Oct 6, 2017, 15:35, at 15:35, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >To get dead objects while we have them live :) > >On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >wrote: >> >> >>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 19:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> >wrote: >>> >>> Maybe this [1] or this [2] (the two might be the same thing) >>> >>> 1. http://forum.world.st/Online-Pharo-Documentation-tp3468690.html >>> 2. http://forum.world.st/webdoc-tt3654967.html >> >> >http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#classList=package/Kernel.html&packageList=p… >> >> This is only up to Pharo 4. >> >> But the point remains, given an image and all our tools, why go to >the web. >> >> >> >>

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Stephane Ducasse

To get dead objects while we have them live :) On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 19:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >> Maybe this [1] or this [2] (the two might be the same thing) >> >> 1. http://forum.world.st/Online-Pharo-Documentation-tp3468690.html >> 2. http://forum.world.st/webdoc-tt3654967.html > > http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#classList=package/Kernel.html&packageList=p… > > This is only up to Pharo 4. > > But the point remains, given an image and all our tools, why go to the web. > > > >

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

+1.0.1 :-) > Pharo Launcher files (images, VMs) are now considered as user Documents (easier to find). Consequently, they are now stored in the standard documents folder, i.e. > *$HOME/Pharo* This seems like a step backwards. The expected location is $XDG_DATA_HOME/Pharo . Is it possible to change or configure this? Peter On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > > Tx Christophe > > +100. Launcher has become indispensable! > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

Oct. 6, 2017

[ANN] OSSubprocess Bugfix and enhancements release

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Dear all, I have just released a new bugfix and enhancements release v0.2.5 for OSSubprocess as you can see in [1]. This new release is thanks to the awesome work of Guillermo Polito [2]. He found a problem (and a fix) that would hung/block the Pharo image in a wait state. This problem has been forever and I have faced it myself. It would only happen when using #waitForExit and under certain scenario. Because of that, I recommend everyone to move to this release. Aside from that serious bug, he has also done quite some improvements in the tests and in the Travis setup. Once this PR [3] has been merged and SmalltalkCI updated, our Travis build [4] should show all green builds for Linux/OSX and Pharo 5.0 and 6.1. I have also copied the configuration into Pharo 5.0 and 6.0 catalog so as of tomorrow, it should be there. Cheers, [1] https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess/releases/tag/v0.2.5 [2] https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess/pull/25 [3] https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/pull/320 [4] https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/OSSubprocess -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 6 Oct 2017, at 19:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Maybe this [1] or this [2] (the two might be the same thing) > > 1. http://forum.world.st/Online-Pharo-Documentation-tp3468690.html > 2. http://forum.world.st/webdoc-tt3654967.html http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#classList=package/Kernel.html&packageList=p… This is only up to Pharo 4. But the point remains, given an image and all our tools, why go to the web.

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Sean P. DeNigris

Maybe this [1] or this [2] (the two might be the same thing) 1. http://forum.world.st/Online-Pharo-Documentation-tp3468690.html 2. http://forum.world.st/webdoc-tt3654967.html ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

by Sean P. DeNigris

Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > Tx Christophe +100. Launcher has become indispensable! ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

by Hilaire

I think Laurent wrote something to export classes and documentation as html form to let user browse it. I have not idea where it is though. Hilaire Le 06/10/2017 Ã 14:54, horrido a Ã©critÂ : > *Then show me a link of the free, maintained reference documentation for the > classes that form âthe core libraryâ, like this one for Python > (https://docs.python.org/3/library/index.html)* -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Oct. 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Organisation and workflows

by Stephane Ducasse

Super. Just do it :) and we will here to help you helping Pharo On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Steven R. Baker <steven(a)stevenrbaker.com> wrote: > > > On 02/10/17 15:28, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 15:12, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I discussed with esteban sooner this summer and we really want to have a process >>> where people can deploy applications and not just code. >>> Now we are not yet there. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Steven R. Baker <steven(a)stevenrbaker.com> wrote: >>>> Heya folks, >>>> >>>> [Please jump on any of my statements that sound crazy: use of Spec, >>>> other assumptions, etc.] >>>> >>>> I'm starting an application in Pharo, using Spec. Basically, a GTD >>>> application in the spirit of nirvanahq, omnifocus, things, nozbe. The >>>> code is working just fine, but I'm left with a lot of questions about >>>> how to organize it. >>>> >>>> First, is there some trick to managing images? Are people using >>>> one-per-project, or one-per-computer? All of the above? Anyone using >>>> PharoLauncher these days? Other tools? >> pharo users tend to prefer one-per-project approach :) >> most people uses (or should use) pharo launcher. In fact, we want to make it the default download, is just that to get it right is complicated :) >> >> butâ¦ pharo launcher is to developers. A final app would require other stuff to be accomplished (like closing development tools, etc.). >> >>>> I'm assuming that the current state of the art is Iceberg; where can I >>>> find a "This is how you should organize your project using Iceberg" >>>> document, blog, book, tutorial, video, or otherwise. >> beware: Iceberg is a cvs (like Monticello or git or svnâ¦): it is use to store code, not to organise your project. >> To organise your project you have Metacello. >> >>>> Once the application is done, I assume I'll want to ship it in a minimal >>>> Pharo image. Is there documentation or prior art on this? >> this is what is hard :) >> I imagine with the headless VMs we are about to finish it will be easier (to just initiate a window with your app, instead initiate a window with the full world as now). >> but we still require some work. >> >>>> Finally, is there a way to run and capture keybindings globally? I have >>>> one part of my application (a quick-entry window) which I want summoned >>>> from a global (OS-wide) hotkey. Has this been done before? Or is it not >>>> easy to break the fourth wall, so to speak, and register a global >>>> keybinding from inside the VM? >> there is a keybindings framework inside pharo, but since you have a lot of development tools, it becomes hard to use (again, something that can be solved in the near future, with same approach as before, but not yet). >> now, to get the keybindings of the system you will need to install that *in* the system. >> >> for mac, for example, you can doit using the ObjC bridge (which does not works in 64bit images... Iâm working on a UFFI replacement, butâ¦ guess what? not yet :P) >> and I guess using UFFI you can get that to work on windows and linux? Iâm really donât know. >> >> all you ask is *doable*â¦ but not all your requirements are *easily* doable right now, which is want I want to fix :) > I don't mind contributing code and time on these things, as they present > real barriers to me. I'm looking for ways to get involved in the > community again. :) > > -Steven > >> Esteban >> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > >

Oct. 6, 2017