January 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

by Hilaire

I don't know yet Jeff. I don't have either a macos sierra at hand. Once a Mac OS Sierra user reported me the problem your are mentioning[1], but I did not get very far investigating the problem. For me it is not clear at all from[2] if there is any Mac VM 4.0. May be Esteban can enlighten us. [1] http://forum.drgeo.eu/DrGeo-pb-mac-os-Sierra-td4024957.html [2] http://pharo.org/download Le 14/01/2017 Ã 11:35, J.F. Rick a Ã©crit : > So, what's the proper procedure? I just moved my Pharo4 to the > Application directory and it didn't work? Launched but the window is > black. Is there a new Pharo4 VM for MacOS? If so, where is it? > > Thanks, > > Jeff -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Jan. 14, 2017

selectAllSortBy: usage

by Asbath Sama biyalou

Hi everybody I have a small problem with the selectAllSortBy: method When I use it Actualite selectAllSortBy: {# date_actu-> 1. # heure_actu-> 1} asDictionary. I have a MessageUnderstood Set (class) >> sortBy: I searched the whole system to find sortBy: but in vain. I do not know how to do it anymore. I' am using Voyage with Integrated mongo db (VOMemoryRepository). Thanks for help. Asbath

Jan. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

by J.F. Rick

So, what's the proper procedure? I just moved my Pharo4 to the Application directory and it didn't work? Launched but the window is black. Is there a new Pharo4 VM for MacOS? If so, where is it? Thanks, Jeff On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:12 PM Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Ok, nice to hear that. I will have to change the VM sooner or later for > DrGeo then. > > Le 13/01/2017 Ã 16:44, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > > yes they do. > > you just have to download the vm for Pharo4 > > > > (veeeery old versions of Pharo maybe will not work, but who knows :P) > > > > Esteban > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >

Jan. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 14 Jan 2017, at 00:48, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > On STHub, fortunately is live enough to let some of us being productive without the noise of git in front. So true. Let's stop bashing StHub: it works fine for 1000s of projects. I know we are building something new and I am all for it, but as long as it is not as user friendly as Monticello (all operations clean and simple in Pharo, reliably) we are not there yet. The point is: we all know how to use git, but most Pharo developers don't want to deal with file based Pharo code, at all, ever. Sven

Jan. 14, 2017

SPLASHâ17 Call for Contributions: Workshops

by Ronald Garcia

/************************************************************************************/ ACM Conference on Systems, Programming, Languages, and Applications: Software for Humanity (SPLASH'17) Vancouver, Canada October 22-27, 2017 http://2017.splashcon.org <http://2017.splashcon.org/> Sponsored by ACM SIGPLAN /************************************************************************************/ CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS: Workshops /************************************************************************************/ ## SPLASH Workshops Following its long-standing tradition, SPLASH 2017 will host a variety of high-quality workshops, allowing their participants to meet and discuss research questions with peers, to mature new and exciting ideas, and to build up communities and start new collaborations. SPLASH workshops complement the main tracks of the conference and provide meetings in a smaller and more specialized setting. Workshops cultivate new ideas and concepts for the future, optionally recorded in formal proceedings. ## Call for Submissions: We encourage proposals for workshops on any topic relevant to SPLASH. If there is a topic relevant to SPLASH that you feel passionate about, and you want to connect with others who have similar interests, you should consider submitting a proposal to organize a workshop! The exact format of the workshop can be defined by the proposal submitters, and we more than welcome new, and unconventional ideas for workshop formats. The following suggestions may serve as a starting point: - Mini-conferences provide their participants the possibility to present their work to other domain experts. The smaller and more specialized setting of the workshop allows for more extensive Q&A sessions and facilitates ample discussions,which may continue after the workshop. Typically, presentations of work-in-progress as well as of completed projects are welcome. The workshop may or may not produce formal proceedings. - Retreats act as a platform for domain experts to gather with the purpose of tackling the issues of a predetermined research agenda. Retreats are highly interactive and goal-oriented, allowing their participants to address open challenges in their domain, to explore new, uncharted ideas, and to (maybe even) uncover new, promising research domains. - Agenda-setting workshops provide a forum for domain experts to determine a research agenda for a sub-field, and may include collaborations on an agenda document that is published after the workshop is over. Other common activities at workshops include poster sessions, hands-on practical work, and focus groups. Proposal submitters should feel free to direct questions about workshop formats to the workshop chairs. Workshops that include presentation of research papers, and that implement a SIGPLAN-approved selection process, may be archived as formal proceedings in the ACM Digital Library; note that this option is available only to submitters to the early phase. ## Workshop Submission Phase: This year, SPLASH provides two options to submit proposals, either Early Phase or Late Phase (but not both): Early Phase Submissions due: 20 January 2017 Late Phase Submissions due: 3 March 2017 ## Information Website: http://2017.splashcon.org/track/splash-2017-Workshops <http://2017.splashcon.org/track/splash-2017-Workshops> Email: workshops(a)splashcon.org <mailto:workshops@splashcon.org> ## Organization: SPLASH General Chair: Gail Murphy (University of British Columbia) OOPSLA Papers Chair: Jonathan Aldrich (Carnegie Mellon University) Workshops Co-Chairs: Craig Anslow (Middlesex University, London) and Alex Potanin (Victoria University of Wellington) /************************************************************************************/

Jan. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On custom searches, I know that duckduckgo[1] has a program for developers. Now is focused on popular languages, but maybe we could put our own search button in pharo.org to provide that custom search that harvest the Pharo community intelligence. That could be a project for a small Pharo hackathon. [1] https://duckduckhack.com/ On ransomware (I will hold the data you provide me until you pay), yes, the problem was that we did not start to use FLOSS alternatives before, mostly because of the effort to setup and maintain them and migration is costly now. As a small community, addressing that problems to have our own infrastructure (or scrapping others infrastructure) is expensive, so we're using gratis infrastructure that cost our collective memory in the long term. On STHub, fortunately is live enough to let some of us being productive without the noise of git in front. Cheers, Offray On 13/01/17 07:01, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I though that my example made this clear, apparently it did not so let > me try again. > > No SEO is not a problem > > SEO is not a problem because we have made the smart move as a > community to host our projects and discussions and documentation to > existing google friendly websites like Github, world.st > <http://world.st> and stackoverflow. > > As such its very easy to find documentation about Pharo. > > The problem here is what makes Google special, what made it the No1 > search engine. > > You see before Google there was this search engine called AltaVista, > AltaVista was doing what is relevant to a SEO , it was basically > searching for sites and bringing up accurate search results . So if > Google search was doing just that we will still be using AltaVista and > Google would have never existed. > > However what Google devs did that made a huge diffirence was to design > an algorithm using AI techniques that not only returned accurate > results but also related results. This made it possible to withstand > spelling errors or differentiate between search results using the same > name etc. Also customised the experience by keeping track of user's > preferences via google analytics. > > As such this poses a problem, that Google not only is able to find a > vast majority of the Pharo documentation because as I said we host it > in websites taking advantage of SEO but also related info. This poses > a problem because Google mixes up pharo results with pharao results, > or maybe its still pharo but its a book, or a music band etc. > > The query I provided eliminates a problem that SEO cannot eliminate , > removing the search results that is highly likely to not be related to > OUR pharo. > > However even if this query provides a nice solution it is not > waterproof. For example it does not include many of the blogs that > keep track of pharo progress and document many of its parts. For > example Ben recently posted a very nice guide for UFFI. > > Also there is no need for this query if you search for specific class > or method names since its far less likely that Google will return > irrelevant results. > > Also another problem is the rapid improvement of Pharo, this something > begineers are not aware because its easy to underestimate how fast > Pharo is moving mainly because of the fact is not popular. > > But Pharo moves forward very fast. > > So fast that is easy to fall in the trap of finding the right method > and right class but not the up to date version, thus you need also > date and time based search as well that google also provides. > > Also you may prefer to find PDFs because you will like a guide or in > depth tutorial instead of some random discussion , or a two pages > tutorial in that case you will add to the query > > filteype:PDF > > and so on > > Learning how to search with Google is an art by itself and no bringing > it inside the Pharo image wont make a big difference to newcomers > because we still need to implement a complex GUI to accommodate for > many different needs. So we will be wasting time recreating Google > inside the Pharo image and you will be using a tool that still > requires to learn things similar what you need to learn for using > Google search. > > No matter the language you are learning the workflow is similar, start > with a beginner friendly guide or book, join a forum and ask for > directions, take a look at youtube tutorials and learn how to use Google. > > Pharo or no Pharo, you will lose a great deal of efficiency if you do > not learn how to use Google. > > So no we do not need to SEO world.st <http://world.st> , > stackoverflow, github , or slideshare they are doing a pretty good job > > Smalltalkhub and blog posts may not be SEO but a) Smalltalkhub is a > dead project no longer maintained other than making sure the server is > online b) we cannot force people to SEO their blogs, thats up to them

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] A little expression interpreter for new forthcoming book

by Stephane Ducasse

Please Damien :) You know, I first dumping and after revisiting. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I just went through it and saw a few possible tweaks (you know me). I'll > commit them directly if I get the time > > On 8 January 2017 at 20:50, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > >> Okay! >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:34 PM, stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr> wrote: >> > >> > fixed. >> > Alex >> > this chapter alone is really nice to present OOP and OOD and Pharo to >> people can start. >> > I'm adding some points to answer question raised by my son and it will >> be ready to rest. >> > >> > Stef >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

by Hilaire

Ok, nice to hear that. I will have to change the VM sooner or later for DrGeo then. Le 13/01/2017 Ã 16:44, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > yes they do. > you just have to download the vm for Pharo4 > > (veeeery old versions of Pharo maybe will not work, but who knows :P) > > Esteban -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes they do. you just have to download the vm for Pharo4 (veeeery old versions of Pharo maybe will not work, but who knows :P) Esteban > On 13 Jan 2017, at 14:58, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > > While Pharo5 works in Sierra if I place it in the Applications directory, older Pharo versions don't. While the image opens, I just get a giant black window. Any way around this? > > Happy New Year! > > Jeff

Jan. 13, 2017

Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

by J.F. Rick

While Pharo5 works in Sierra if I place it in the Applications directory, older Pharo versions don't. While the image opens, I just get a giant black window. Any way around this? Happy New Year! Jeff

Jan. 13, 2017