September 2016 - Pharo-users

bug in debugger?

by Usman Bhatti

Hello, I have a strange error in my image that results in image start taking up system memory and crashes when it attains the max. the VM can provide on my machine (2Gb). I am working on Pharo 4.0 + Spec debugger. After some digging in the image, I know that the error comes from an assignment operation (below in bold). And the bug only occurs when the method initialize is executed as inherited method. The strange part is that that it does not crash when the value assigned is slightly different e.g. "nosignature1" instead of "nosignature". FAMIXInvocation>>initialize super initialize. sender := nil. receiver := nil. receiverSourceCode := nil. *signature := 'nosignature'.* candidates := FMMultiMultivalueLink on: self opposite: #incomingInvocations. The crash doesn't happen when I override initialize in the subclass without sending initialize message to the superclass. So this report is about a very very specific case, but it is there. I tried to analyze further in the debugger but with announcements, etc. I wasn't able to achieve anything. So, if someone's interested to have a look, I can provide the image. regards. Usman

Sept. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Subscript Out Of Bounds: 1 when commiting from Versionner

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

May be this issue : https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18684/Versionner-Error-while-commiting-a-… And here for the fix : https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18927/Komitter-throws-up-if-it-has-commit… HernÃ¡n 2016-09-28 1:29 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Yes it was fix in pharo 60 and we should port it back but I forgot the > issue number > > > > Le 27/9/16 Ã 21:00, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > > When commiting with Versionner in Pharo 5.0 I always have to manually >> override this method >> >> KomitStagingArea>>remotes >> | result | >> >> result := self packages first remotes. >> self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | >> result := result intersection: each remotes ]. >> >> ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] >> >> to >> >> KomitStagingArea>>remotes >> >> self packages isEmpty >> ifFalse: [ >> | result | >> result := self packages first remotes. >> self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | >> result := result intersection: each remotes ]. >> ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] ]. >> ^ Array empty. >> >> Screenshot attached. >> Is this known issue or was this reported before? >> >> Hernan >> >> > >

Sept. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Subscript Out Of Bounds: 1 when commiting from Versionner

by stepharo

Yes it was fix in pharo 60 and we should port it back but I forgot the issue number Le 27/9/16 Ã 21:00, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > When commiting with Versionner in Pharo 5.0 I always have to manually > override this method > > KomitStagingArea>>remotes > | result | > > result := self packages first remotes. > self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | > result := result intersection: each remotes ]. > > ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] > > to > > KomitStagingArea>>remotes > > self packages isEmpty > ifFalse: [ > | result | > result := self packages first remotes. > self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | > result := result intersection: each remotes ]. > ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] ]. > ^ Array empty. > > Screenshot attached. > Is this known issue or was this reported before? > > Hernan >

Sept. 28, 2016

Subscript Out Of Bounds: 1 when commiting from Versionner

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

When commiting with Versionner in Pharo 5.0 I always have to manually override this method KomitStagingArea>>remotes | result | result := self packages first remotes. self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | result := result intersection: each remotes ]. ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] to KomitStagingArea>>remotes self packages isEmpty ifFalse: [ | result | result := self packages first remotes. self packages allButFirst do: [ :each | result := result intersection: each remotes ]. ^ result collect: [ :each | each koRemote ] ]. ^ Array empty. Screenshot attached. Is this known issue or was this reported before? Hernan

Sept. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Tech Meeting notes

by Dimitris Chloupis

And for those that were not able to attend the voice meeting here you can find the recording so you can listen to it at your convenience https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1404140/Pharo%20Voice%20Meetings/PharoV… Have fun :) On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:23 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I tried to take some notes of the discussion and report of effort made > by esteban > > > > > VM works > ======== > - migrating our source to opensmalltalk vm 80% of our source > - keybindings enhancement > - shift key pressed > - library symbols > - change our cmake maker -> plain makefiles > - port our process (running all the tests) > - new VMs will get out > - ARM VM is under dev and started to run. > - migration planned for end of week of next weeks > > - right now able to build > 32 and 64 on mac and linux. > plan with mid october. > > - for windows > - We will produce assert vm to help people to find problems. > > - Sierra support is coming. > - openssl > It will come after the end of the merge finished. > > - FFI bug about the Athens canvas. > > - FT bug is getting on the radar and esteban suspects that the bug > is in the C plugin. We plan to throw away the FT plugin. > If people want to help please have a look at thibaultRaffaillac > bindings. > > - Pharo is using different VM functionalities so sometimes we are > going > on unfrequented paths. > > - Threaded FFI will come after 64, ARM, two bugs > Probably beginning of the year. > > > Iceberg > ======== > here is the log that nicolas sent to our internal mailing-list > > ### Last week: > - Improved travis support, working on having all green tests in travis, > still 4 to go. > - Extending libgit support. > - Support for synchronizing an Iceberg repository with code that was > loaded with gitfiletree (was not working, as reported by Norbert). > - Fixed some bugs (see > https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg/milestone/7?closed=1) > > > ### This week (starting 2016-09-26): > > - Finish having all tests running on travis. > - Better management of ssh keys (which in turn is required for travis > working correctly). > - Also I would like to add some little GUI details that bother me in > daily work (such as remembering common options, highlighting outdated > repositories, or opening repositories from spotter). > > I think that this might take the whole week. After that I plan to add > basic support synchronizing against code that was loaded from any > repository. With that finished, we could release v0.3 > > After that, the plan for v0.4 is to make libgit our default backend, and > make gitfiletree dependencies optional. > - I am pretty close to have all tests running for libgit again, then we > should try to use libgit as backend for the UI. But in that process also > improve test coverage so that we minimize dependence on manual > verification of the UI. > - Remodularice in order to separate gitfiletree dependencies, so we will > be able to use Iceberg without loading ossubprocess (or gitfiletree). > - That will require also to write an independent cypress reader/writer, > because the current one inherits from gitfiletree. > > If we have all this, I think that we could have a version that could be > included in the base image, probably in the second half of october. > > >

Sept. 27, 2016

Tech Meeting notes

by stepharo

Hi guys I tried to take some notes of the discussion and report of effort made by esteban VM works ======== - migrating our source to opensmalltalk vm 80% of our source - keybindings enhancement - shift key pressed - library symbols - change our cmake maker -> plain makefiles - port our process (running all the tests) - new VMs will get out - ARM VM is under dev and started to run. - migration planned for end of week of next weeks - right now able to build 32 and 64 on mac and linux. plan with mid october. - for windows - We will produce assert vm to help people to find problems. - Sierra support is coming. - openssl It will come after the end of the merge finished. - FFI bug about the Athens canvas. - FT bug is getting on the radar and esteban suspects that the bug is in the C plugin. We plan to throw away the FT plugin. If people want to help please have a look at thibaultRaffaillac bindings. - Pharo is using different VM functionalities so sometimes we are going on unfrequented paths. - Threaded FFI will come after 64, ARM, two bugs Probably beginning of the year. Iceberg ======== here is the log that nicolas sent to our internal mailing-list ### Last week: - Improved travis support, working on having all green tests in travis, still 4 to go. - Extending libgit support. - Support for synchronizing an Iceberg repository with code that was loaded with gitfiletree (was not working, as reported by Norbert). - Fixed some bugs (see https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg/milestone/7?closed=1) ### This week (starting 2016-09-26): - Finish having all tests running on travis. - Better management of ssh keys (which in turn is required for travis working correctly). - Also I would like to add some little GUI details that bother me in daily work (such as remembering common options, highlighting outdated repositories, or opening repositories from spotter). I think that this might take the whole week. After that I plan to add basic support synchronizing against code that was loaded from any repository. With that finished, we could release v0.3 After that, the plan for v0.4 is to make libgit our default backend, and make gitfiletree dependencies optional. - I am pretty close to have all tests running for libgit again, then we should try to use libgit as backend for the UI. But in that process also improve test coverage so that we minimize dependence on manual verification of the UI. - Remodularice in order to separate gitfiletree dependencies, so we will be able to use Iceberg without loading ossubprocess (or gitfiletree). - That will require also to write an independent cypress reader/writer, because the current one inherits from gitfiletree. If we have all this, I think that we could have a version that could be included in the base image, probably in the second half of october.

Sept. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] using glorp and active record

by Sean Glazier

Hi, Sorry for the delay been really busy. there is aclass called ActiveRecord wher you can subclass model objects from and follow the instructions, glorp will build the database descriptions and mappings. The sequence numbers were defined in the database. I was using an existing model to map and improve upon. Things went well until glorp was describing the tables in particular the ids that have sequence numbers attached to the id columns. when writing to save a new object you do not set the id directly but use the auto sequence. the ddl of the tables are as follows: -- Table: answers -- DROP TABLE answers; CREATE TABLE answers ( id serial NOT NULL, questionid integer, visitorid integer, answer text, optionid integer, -- options for licence scans can havedirect answers for them so we nee to add pointers and backpointer to them in this table as well CONSTRAINT answers_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT answers_optionid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (optionid) REFERENCES options (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTION, CONSTRAINT answers_visitorid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (visitorid) REFERENCES visitors (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE SET NULL ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE answers OWNER TO sean; COMMENT ON COLUMN answers.optionid IS 'options for licence scans can havedirect answers for them so we nee to add pointers and backpointer to them in this table as well'; -- Index: answers_questionid_idx -- DROP INDEX answers_questionid_idx; CREATE INDEX answers_questionid_idx ON answers USING btree (questionid); -- Index: answers_visitorid_idx -- DROP INDEX answers_visitorid_idx; CREATE INDEX answers_visitorid_idx ON answers USING btree (visitorid); -- Table: moderators -- DROP TABLE moderators; CREATE TABLE moderators ( id character(36) NOT NULL, settingsid character(24), name text, location text, password text, hiddenfilter text, login text, CONSTRAINT moderators_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT moderators_settingsid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (settingsid) REFERENCES settings (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE moderators OWNER TO sean; -- Index: moderators_settingsid_idx -- DROP INDEX moderators_settingsid_idx; CREATE INDEX moderators_settingsid_idx ON moderators USING btree (settingsid COLLATE pg_catalog."default"); -- Table: modsessions -- DROP TABLE modsessions; CREATE TABLE modsessions ( id serial NOT NULL, moderatorid character(36), starttime timestamp without time zone, endtime timestamp without time zone, CONSTRAINT modsessions_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT modsessions_moderatorid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (moderatorid) REFERENCES moderators (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE modsessions OWNER TO sean; -- Index: modsessions_moderatorid_idx -- DROP INDEX modsessions_moderatorid_idx; CREATE INDEX modsessions_moderatorid_idx ON modsessions USING btree (moderatorid COLLATE pg_catalog."default"); -- Table: options -- DROP TABLE options; CREATE TABLE options ( id serial NOT NULL, questionid integer, option text, message text, islicensequestion boolean, -- tels me if this option is part of a license question group answertype text, -- this defines if the option has an answer with logic or with out logic. in the future there might be more answer types with other comple logic. so this field is a string instead of a boolean or an integer. It makes it easier to identify thing by looking at the results logicquestionid integer, showinstatus boolean, showinregistration boolean, showinmoderatorscreen boolean, CONSTRAINT options_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT logicquestion_fk FOREIGN KEY (logicquestionid) REFERENCES questions (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE, CONSTRAINT options_questionid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (questionid) REFERENCES questions (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE options OWNER TO sean; COMMENT ON COLUMN options.islicensequestion IS 'tels me if this option is part of a license question group'; COMMENT ON COLUMN options.answertype IS 'this defines if the option has an answer with logic or with out logic. in the future there might be more answer types with other comple logic. so this field is a string instead of a boolean or an integer. It makes it easier to identify thing by looking at the results'; -- Index: options_questionid_idx -- DROP INDEX options_questionid_idx; CREATE INDEX options_questionid_idx ON options USING btree (questionid); -- Table: questions -- DROP TABLE questions; CREATE TABLE questions ( id serial NOT NULL, settingsid character(24), question text, showinstatus boolean, orderno integer, qtype integer, showinregistration boolean, islicensescan boolean, -- is this question part of the licenseScan isenabledforlicensescan boolean, parentquestionid integer, islogicquestion boolean, -- is this a condition logic question showinmoderatorscreen boolean, -- a newfield for the new q line CONSTRAINT questions_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT parentquestion_fk FOREIGN KEY (parentquestionid) REFERENCES questions (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE, CONSTRAINT questions_settingsid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (settingsid) REFERENCES settings (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE SET NULL ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE questions OWNER TO sean; COMMENT ON COLUMN questions.islicensescan IS 'is this question part of the licenseScan'; COMMENT ON COLUMN questions.islogicquestion IS 'is this a condition logic question'; COMMENT ON COLUMN questions.showinmoderatorscreen IS 'a newfield for the new q line'; -- Index: questions_settingsid_idx -- DROP INDEX questions_settingsid_idx; CREATE INDEX questions_settingsid_idx ON questions USING btree (settingsid COLLATE pg_catalog."default"); -- Table: selectedoptions -- DROP TABLE selectedoptions; CREATE TABLE selectedoptions ( id serial NOT NULL, answerid integer, optionid integer, CONSTRAINT selectedoptions_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id) ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE selectedoptions OWNER TO sean; -- Index: selectedoptions_answerid_idx -- DROP INDEX selectedoptions_answerid_idx; CREATE INDEX selectedoptions_answerid_idx ON selectedoptions USING btree (answerid); -- Index: selectedoptions_optionid_idx -- DROP INDEX selectedoptions_optionid_idx; CREATE INDEX selectedoptions_optionid_idx ON selectedoptions USING btree (optionid); -- Table: settings -- DROP TABLE settings; CREATE TABLE settings ( id character(24) NOT NULL, logourl text, templatename text, successmessage text, doprintout boolean, regtitle text, themecolor text, regbgurl text, lunchstart timestamp without time zone, lunchend timestamp without time zone, statustitle text, lunchmessage text, endofdaymessage text, statusbgurl text, modbgurl text, regtitlecolor text, statustitlecolor text, statustextno text, statustextlocation text, statustextest text, nummoderators integer, showinstatusest boolean, estreset timestamp without time zone, manualest integer, CONSTRAINT settings_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id) ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE settings OWNER TO sean; -- Table: urlsettings -- DROP TABLE urlsettings; CREATE TABLE urlsettings ( id serial NOT NULL, statusurl text, registrationurl text, moderatorurl text, CONSTRAINT urlsettings_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id) ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE urlsettings OWNER TO sean; -- Table: visitors -- DROP TABLE visitors; CREATE TABLE visitors ( id serial NOT NULL, moderatorid character(36), settingsid character(24), no integer, createdat timestamp without time zone, calledat timestamp without time zone, cancelledat timestamp without time zone, showedupat timestamp without time zone, processedat timestamp without time zone, comments text, finishedloginat timestamp without time zone, CONSTRAINT visitors_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT visitors_settingsid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (settingsid) REFERENCES settings (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTION, CONSTRAINT vistors_moderatorid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (moderatorid) REFERENCES moderators (id) MATCH SIMPLE ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTION ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); ALTER TABLE visitors OWNER TO sean; -- Index: visitors_moderatorid_idx -- DROP INDEX visitors_moderatorid_idx; CREATE INDEX visitors_moderatorid_idx ON visitors USING btree (moderatorid COLLATE pg_catalog."default"); -- Index: visitors_settingsid_idx -- DROP INDEX visitors_settingsid_idx; CREATE INDEX visitors_settingsid_idx ON visitors USING btree (settingsid COLLATE pg_catalog."default"); -- Sequence: answers_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE answers_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE answers_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 220 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE answers_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: modsessions_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE modsessions_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE modsessions_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 40 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE modsessions_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: options_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE options_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE options_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 68 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE options_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: questions_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE questions_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE questions_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 18 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE questions_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: selectedoptions_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE selectedoptions_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE selectedoptions_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 46 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE selectedoptions_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: urlsettings_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE urlsettings_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE urlsettings_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 1 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE urlsettings_id_seq OWNER TO sean; -- Sequence: visitors_id_seq -- DROP SEQUENCE visitors_id_seq; CREATE SEQUENCE visitors_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 9223372036854775807 START 52 CACHE 1; ALTER TABLE visitors_id_seq OWNER TO sean; Kind Regards, Sean Glazier On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How did you create the tables? There is a sequence for the ID in the > database? > Also, I don't understand why you call it "ActiveRecord". > > If you can share some code, DDL of the table, I'll be able to help you > better. > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > ps: I'm cross replying to the Glorp mailing list. > > 2016-08-08 11:02 GMT-03:00 Sean Glazier <sglazier456(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi, > > > > I have been trying to get glorp using active record working in pharo 5. > > > > I have a descriptor class for it and the classes inherit from active > Record. > > > > I describe the table as: > > tableForAnswer: aTable > > | vistorId questionId | > > (aTable createFieldNamed: 'id' type: platform serial) bePrimaryKey. > > questionId := aTable createFieldNamed: 'questionId' type: platform > integer. > > vistorId := aTable createFieldNamed: 'vistorId' type: platform integer. > > aTable createFieldNamed: 'answer' type: platform text. > > aTable > > addForeignKeyFrom: vistorId > > to: ((self tableNamed: 'VISITORS') fieldNamed: 'ID') > > suffixExpression: > > 'MATCH SIMPLE > > ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE'. > > aTable > > addForeignKeyFrom: questionId > > to: ((self tableNamed: 'QUESTIONS') fieldNamed: 'ID') > > suffixExpression: > > 'MATCH SIMPLE > > ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE CASCADE' > > > > > > the table in the DB was preexisting. > > > > when I do Answer findAll > > > > I get and error that it is expecting a number for the id field. > > > > in the PostgresSQLPlaform serial is defined thusly. > > serial > > "For postgresql, we use sequences, and explicitly get the values > ourselves, > > so just tell the database that they're integers." > > > > ^self typeNamed: #serial ifAbsentPut: [GlorpSerialType new typeString: > > 'integer']. > > > > What the DB hands back is 'nextval('answers_id_seq'::regclass)' which > seems > > correct if it is telling me that there exists a sequence for this field > and > > that is the correct command to issue for the field. > > > > am I defining this table incorrectly? or should I bag using active > Record. I > > kind of liked it when working in Visualworks because there were also > tools > > that would read in and describe the tables and then tools to assit when > you > > needed to migrate to another version and do the changes etc. > > > > FYI this is the query that is being run that fails. > > SELECT t1.table_name, t1.table_schema, t1.column_name, t1.is_nullable, > > t1.data_type, t1.column_default, t1.character_maximum_length, EXISTS > > (SELECT DISTINCT 'x' > > FROM ((INFORMATION_SCHEMA.table_constraints s1t1 INNER JOIN > > INFORMATION_SCHEMA.key_column_usage s1t3 ON ((s1t1.table_name = > > s1t3.table_name) AND ((s1t1.table_schema = s1t3.table_schema) AND > > (s1t1.constraint_name = s1t3.constraint_name)))) INNER JOIN > > INFORMATION_SCHEMA.columns s1t2 ON (((s1t3.column_name = > s1t2.column_name) > > AND (s1t3.table_schema = s1t2.table_schema)) AND (s1t3.table_name = > > s1t2.table_name))) > > WHERE ((s1t1.constraint_type = 'PRIMARY KEY') AND ((s1t2.column_name = > > t1.column_name) AND (((s1t2.table_schema = t1.table_schema) AND > > (s1t2.table_name = t1.table_name)) AND ((s1t2.table_schema = > > t1.table_schema) AND (s1t2.table_name = t1.table_name)))))) > > FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.columns t1 > > WHERE ((t1.table_name = 'answers') AND (t1.table_schema = 'public')) > > > > > > > > it looks as though it is reading in the schema and is expecting and > integer > > because we told it to in the serial method on the PostgesSQLPlatform. > > > > As much as I love diving into these frameworks to figure out the deep > inner > > workings, I really need to be getting data in and out without a fuss. > > > > Should I follow the DBX example where the descriptor is orthogonal to the > > model and one does not subclass from active record? > > > > I also note that not all the glorp tests pass. I think the were rather > minor > > fails like timezone issues or something. It took a while but the test > > created a number of tables in the DB. > > > > So again Have I done something Obtuse that I qught to be slapped for > here? > > > > thanks > >

Sept. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] using glorp and active record

by Esteban A. Maringolo

There is the Glorp Mailing List / Google Group at glorp-group(a)googlegroups.com Activity there is rare, but people still read it. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2016-09-27 10:21 GMT-03:00 Brad Selfridge <bsselfridge(a)gmail.com>: > Could I be added to any invite list. I have been working on some tools > surrounding making GLORP easier to setup and use. > > Thanks, > > > > ----- > Brad Selfridge > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/using- > glorp-and-active-record-tp4909996p4917215.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Sept. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Essential Documentation

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 27/09/16 09:17, julius wrote: > Thanks for all replies and the good advice. Grafoscopio looks impressive and > very interesting! Thanks. There is still a lot of work to be done and code to be improved, but is getting more maturity. Still I would like to make some videos showing the new characteristics on sharing and storing playgrounds inside a notebook. > After working more and more with Pharo I see and > understand the approach to documentation better I think. So my next steps > will be finishing the application I'm writing and documenting that, also if > I see class comments that are hard to understand I will report them, maybe > even try to improve them myself. That would be very worthy. Cheers, Offray

Sept. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Essential Documentation

by julius

Thanks for all replies and the good advice. Grafoscopio looks impressive and very interesting! After working more and more with Pharo I see and understand the approach to documentation better I think. So my next steps will be finishing the application I'm writing and documenting that, also if I see class comments that are hard to understand I will report them, maybe even try to improve them myself. I'm thinking a lot about how to improve the programming experience and one thing I came up with was, that maybe showing the comment of a message while having the autocompletion dialog open or when selecting it in the code editor would help to grasp the frameworks faster. Since I still don't know much about the whole system: would that be hard to implement? Best, Julius -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Essential-Documentation-tp4916861p4917224.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 27, 2016