September 2016 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by Tudor Girba

Exactly! Now try this: - While inspecting, go the Meta tab. - Select a method, and start writing the method that extends the inspector, like the method I gave you. - Save and the inspector is updated. This experience is still clumsy, but the idea here is that you can extend the inspector during the inspection process. Cheers, Doru > On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:48 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Cool, now I see it. > I added a package called GT-TerritorialExtensions where I will experiment with different extensions. > Thank you. > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2016-09-06 10:24 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi Hernan, > > I read quickly through the doc. Nice work! I noticed that you used the GTInspector (even with multiple panes at a time). That was a nice surprise :). On this occasion I noticed that you could probably extend the inspector with a couple of dedicated views. For example, on page 35, the AmbiguousCity could present the Cities in a dedicated presentation in the same pane. For example, something like: > > gtInspectorCitiesIn: composite > <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 40> > composite list > title: âCitiesâ; > display: [ cities ]; > when: [ cities notEmpty ] > > > Thanks for the clarification about the license. I did not see it either in the manual but that must have been because I schemed fast through it. > > A note for others: AGPL is different than MIT (the typical license for Pharo projects) in that it requires a user to open source any software that uses the AGPL package in some form. There is nothing wrong with it, but you should be aware of the implications. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:40 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > > On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > > > > I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk > > library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. > > > > Nice. Please tell us about your license choice > > > > > > License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers of the manual) > > License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 > > > > Cheers, > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > âLive like you mean it." > > > > <Inspector on a TerritorialAmbiguousCity ((null)) .png> -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with."

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by phil＠highoctane.be

In Tiki, there has been such discussions as well. https://tiki.org/License But yeah, MIT license is the best thing :-) Phil On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:25 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I thought for a while about the license. > > Fixing the ASP loophole means trying to escape from companies using a > trick to avoid returning changes to the code back to the community[1]. I > agree with such position. GNU AGPL is free, copyleft, approved by OSI, > FSF, and used by successful projects : MongoDB, SugarCRM, OTRS, etc. If > anyone want to discuss collaboration or re-licensing, for example to > monetize library services, feel free to contact me privately. > > HernÃ¡n > > [1] http://www.fabcapo.com/2008/02/we-have-submitted-agpl-to-osi.html > > > 2016-09-06 18:03 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > >> Hi HernÃ¡n, >> >> I believe Stef was asking about the choice of picking a viral license vs >> the permissive MIT one that we use in code that gets into Pharo (and >> several other larger related projects). >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> > On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:28 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Stef, >> > >> > I used the License Differentiator tool at >> http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/ >> > >> > I like it because it fixes the 'ASP (application service provider) >> loophole' or 'privacy loophole' problem (See Choice Six in the tool) >> > >> > HernÃ¡n >> > >> > >> > 2016-09-06 16:47 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: >> > Hi hernan >> > >> > why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community against license >> hell. >> > Stef >> > Le 6/9/16 Ã 11:40, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : >> >> >> >> Hi Stephan, >> >> >> >> 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: >> >> On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >> >> >> I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk >> >> library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. >> >> >> >> Nice. Please tell us about your license choice >> >> >> >> >> >> License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers >> of the manual) >> >> License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "If you can't say why something is relevant, >> it probably isn't." >> >> >> >

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

I thought for a while about the license. Fixing the ASP loophole means trying to escape from companies using a trick to avoid returning changes to the code back to the community[1]. I agree with such position. GNU AGPL is free, copyleft, approved by OSI, FSF, and used by successful projects : MongoDB, SugarCRM, OTRS, etc. If anyone want to discuss collaboration or re-licensing, for example to monetize library services, feel free to contact me privately. HernÃ¡n [1] http://www.fabcapo.com/2008/02/we-have-submitted-agpl-to-osi.html 2016-09-06 18:03 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi HernÃ¡n, > > I believe Stef was asking about the choice of picking a viral license vs > the permissive MIT one that we use in code that gets into Pharo (and > several other larger related projects). > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:28 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < > hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Stef, > > > > I used the License Differentiator tool at http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/ > licdiff/ > > > > I like it because it fixes the 'ASP (application service provider) > loophole' or 'privacy loophole' problem (See Choice Six in the tool) > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > > > 2016-09-06 16:47 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > Hi hernan > > > > why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community against license > hell. > > Stef > > Le 6/9/16 Ã 11:40, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > >> > >> Hi Stephan, > >> > >> 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > >> On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > >> > >> I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk > >> library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. > >> > >> Nice. Please tell us about your license choice > >> > >> > >> License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers > of the manual) > >> License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> HernÃ¡n > >> > >> Stephan > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > it probably isn't." > > >

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Cool, now I see it. I added a package called GT-TerritorialExtensions where I will experiment with different extensions. Thank you. HernÃ¡n 2016-09-06 10:24 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi Hernan, > > I read quickly through the doc. Nice work! I noticed that you used the > GTInspector (even with multiple panes at a time). That was a nice surprise > :). On this occasion I noticed that you could probably extend the inspector > with a couple of dedicated views. For example, on page 35, the > AmbiguousCity could present the Cities in a dedicated presentation in the > same pane. For example, something like: > > gtInspectorCitiesIn: composite > <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 40> > composite list > title: âCitiesâ; > display: [ cities ]; > when: [ cities notEmpty ] > > > Thanks for the clarification about the license. I did not see it either in > the manual but that must have been because I schemed fast through it. > > A note for others: AGPL is different than MIT (the typical license for > Pharo projects) in that it requires a user to open source any software that > uses the AGPL package in some form. There is nothing wrong with it, but you > should be aware of the implications. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:40 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < > hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > > On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > > > > I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk > > library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. > > > > Nice. Please tell us about your license choice > > > > > > License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers of > the manual) > > License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 > > > > Cheers, > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > âLive like you mean it." > > >

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec: InputWidget question

by Nicolai Hess

2016-09-06 23:14 GMT+02:00 Brad Selfridge <bsselfridge(a)gmail.com>: > I've been trying for several days to get the Spec InputWidget to work as > expected. I've been running the "example2" example. If you enter text in > the input field and press the "enter" key, then the input text is returned. > But, if you click the "Ok" button rather than "enter" key, then the input > text field is empty. I've tried to dig into why, but I stymied. > > Can someone please help me with this? > > Hi Brad, what pharo version ? For me, the example does not work at all (Pharo 5 and Pharo 6). Pressing OK, or pressing the Enter-Key shows a DNU "MessageNotUnderstood: PluggableTextFieldMorph>>acceptContents" > > > ----- > Brad Selfridge > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec- > InputWidget-question-tp4914439.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Sept. 6, 2016

Spec: InputWidget question

by Brad Selfridge

I've been trying for several days to get the Spec InputWidget to work as expected. I've been running the "example2" example. If you enter text in the input field and press the "enter" key, then the input text is returned. But, if you click the "Ok" button rather than "enter" key, then the input text field is empty. I've tried to dig into why, but I stymied. Can someone please help me with this? ----- Brad Selfridge -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-InputWidget-question-tp4914439.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by Tudor Girba

Hi HernÃ¡n, I believe Stef was asking about the choice of picking a viral license vs the permissive MIT one that we use in code that gets into Pharo (and several other larger related projects). Cheers, Doru > On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:28 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Stef, > > I used the License Differentiator tool at http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/ > > I like it because it fixes the 'ASP (application service provider) loophole' or 'privacy loophole' problem (See Choice Six in the tool) > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2016-09-06 16:47 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi hernan > > why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community against license hell. > Stef > Le 6/9/16 Ã 11:40, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : >> >> Hi Stephan, >> >> 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: >> On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >> I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk >> library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. >> >> Nice. Please tell us about your license choice >> >> >> License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers of the manual) >> License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 >> >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "If you can't say why something is relevant, it probably isn't."

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Stef, I used the License Differentiator tool at http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/ I like it because it fixes the 'ASP (application service provider) loophole' or 'privacy loophole' problem (See Choice Six in the tool) HernÃ¡n 2016-09-06 16:47 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi hernan > > why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community against license > hell. > > Stef > Le 6/9/16 Ã 11:40, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > > > Hi Stephan, > > 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > >> On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> >>> I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk >>> library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical objects. >>> >> >> Nice. Please tell us about your license choice >> >> > License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers of > the manual) > License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > >> Stephan >> >> >> >> > >

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Territorial

by stepharo

Hi hernan why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community against license hell. Stef Le 6/9/16 Ã 11:40, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > > Hi Stephan, > > 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl > <mailto:stephan@stack.nl>>: > > On 06/09/16 06:24, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > > > I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new Smalltalk > library for Geographical Information Retrieval in geopolitical > objects. > > > Nice. Please tell us about your license choice > > > License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and disclaimers > of the manual) > License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0 > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > Stephan > > > >

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Lint Rule for Class-Side Method

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi, sorry for late reply. What are you using to obtain critiques? QualityAssistnat? CriticBrowser? Cheers. Uko > On 06 Sep 2016, at 19:06, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> I'm probably missing something obvious, but it seems like #checksMethod >> Lint Rules only get checked against instance-side methods. How does one >> check class-side methods? I converted it to a #checksClass rule, but then >> hits showed the class definition instead of the offending method source. > > Bump. > > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Lint-Rule-for-Class-Side-Method-tp4914121p4914409.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 6, 2016