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Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

i'll do that next time, today everything seems to work, i cannot reproduce it anymore. when it is waiting on a delay of a semaphore does the cpu consumption raise to almost 100%? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you interrupt the hung, can you check if it is waiting on a delay of a > semaphore ? > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> here's another report >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18659/Image-freeze >> >> with the image to reproduce it. >> >> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Mariano Martinez Peck

If you interrupt the hung, can you check if it is waiting on a delay of a semaphore ? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > here's another report > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18659/Image-freeze > > with the image to reproduce it. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2016

problem starting Grafoscopio

by Ben Coman

Hi Offray, After loading Grafiscopio from the Catalog in a fresh Pharo-50760 image, selecting Launch>New notebook... ==> MNU GrafoscopioGUI class>>open Finder shows #open is only understood by GrafoscopioBrowser but GrafoscopioBrowser open ==> MNU: receiver of "/" is nil in #openDefault at... workingFile := draftsLocation / 'draft.ston'. where draftsLocation is nil, and searching all references show no method sets that variable. In the comments is... GrafoscopioBrowser configureSettings but that ==> MNU. Trying a rough guess to force... draftsLocation := '/home/ben/grafosocpio' asFileRefence lets the GrafoscopioBrowser open. cheers -ben

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

here's another report https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18659/Image-freeze with the image to reproduce it. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Tudor, i disabled that extension, and it works so i enabled it again and it continues to work therefore that's not the problem. anyway, thanks for the information im gonna be alert and try to catch this bug. thanks. On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Bernando, > > Thanks for reporting. > > Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the > image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that > can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand > what this means, please read this: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-exte… > > In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote > search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating > this: > GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: > (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) > > Please let me know if this helps. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > i found this > > > > GTSpotter cleanUp. > > GTSpotter dontShowPreview > > > > in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. > > > > after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it > and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. > > > > thanks. > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Mariano, > > no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the > settings related with networking (urls, port). > > anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. > > > > thanks. > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Bernardo, > > > > Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the > catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < > offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use > spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and > change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best > way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try > to check if there is some network issue involved. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > > On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, > pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do > to interrupt it? > >> > >> im on debian wheezy using > >> Pharo5.0 > >> Latest update: #50760 > >> > >> thanks. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Bernardo E.C. > >> > >> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mariano > > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Bernardo E.C. > > > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > > > > > > > > -- > > Bernardo E.C. > > > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > âLive like you mean it." > > > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Making a bitmap area proportional to a value

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Offray! Just to make clear I am understanding correctly, you want to scale a bitmap, based on a given metric. Is that right? Alexandre > On Jul 3, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I can arrange elements in a visualization where the size/area of an RTBox is proportional to a specified value, like here: > > <ciminpknloldbifd.png> > > or I can made all avatars (RTBitmaps) appear into this one: > > <aehbdmimebjfkdai.png> > > But I would like to combine both, making the avatars area proportional to a given value and present them in a RTFlowLayout. Is this possible and how? > > Thanks, > > Offray > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 03 Jul 2016, at 06:17, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: > GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) If it is really the remote catalog loading, you could try doing it manually: CatalogProvider default loadProjectsIfNeeded. That will cache it for 24h in image. (Do save your image). Provided you are using Pharo 5. Sven

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

If it is the catalog loading (if !), then that would mean he has no network, which means he can't do a lot of other things, like committing code, loading code, do diffs, look at history, ... He said he disabled it and it made no difference - if I am not misinterpreting his answers. > On 03 Jul 2016, at 08:49, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Doru >> >> This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. >> >> So let us take some actions. >> >> Turn spotter catalog off by default >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 3/7/16 Ã 06:17, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >>> Hi Bernando, >>> >>> Thanks for reporting. >>> >>> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-exte… >>> >>> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >>> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >>> >>> Please let me know if this helps. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> i found this >>>> >>>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>>> >>>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>>> >>>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Mariano, >>>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Bernardo, >>>> >>>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Offray >>>> >>>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>>> >>>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>>> Pharo5.0 >>>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mariano >>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> âLive like you mean it." >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > >

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by stepharo

> Hi, > > Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. I think that I know it. Still it is only activated by Spotter usage. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Doru >> >> This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. >> >> So let us take some actions. >> >> Turn spotter catalog off by default >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 3/7/16 Ã 06:17, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >>> Hi Bernando, >>> >>> Thanks for reporting. >>> >>> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-exte… >>> >>> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >>> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >>> >>> Please let me know if this helps. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> i found this >>>> >>>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>>> >>>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>>> >>>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Mariano, >>>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Bernardo, >>>> >>>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Offray >>>> >>>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>>> >>>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>>> Pharo5.0 >>>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mariano >>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> âLive like you mean it." >>> >>> >>> >> > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > >

July 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GTSpotter froze my image again

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Doru > > This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. > > So let us take some actions. > > Turn spotter catalog off by default > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 > > Stef > > > Le 3/7/16 Ã 06:17, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> Hi Bernando, >> >> Thanks for reporting. >> >> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-exte… >> >> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >> >> Please let me know if this helps. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> i found this >>> >>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>> >>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>> >>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Mariano, >>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bernardo, >>> >>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>> Cheers, >>> Offray >>> >>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>> >>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>> Pharo5.0 >>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernardo E.C. >>> >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernardo E.C. >>> >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> âLive like you mean it." >> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."

July 3, 2016