July 2016 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Mooc

by stepharo

http://mooc.pharo.org :) soon the videos will be available http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr Le 6/7/16 Ã 14:00, Arie van Wingerden a Ã©crit : > âHi, > > on the main Pharo page I see Pharo Mooc mentioned. Obviously I am too > late to join. > > Will there be a similar course in the (near) future? > > Are there other (video) courses available? I checked Udemy and > O'Reilly, but alas, Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... > > Thx, > Arie

July 6, 2016

Spec vs Brick vs Glamour vs Morphic vs WTF?

by Brad Selfridge

Ok! I'm really confused. I'm wanting to write new GUI and I have no idea which framework to use. There is very little documentation on any of these and I don't see a clear cut statement of direction as to where the Pharo community is heading. Can someone please advise? Thanks. ----- Brad Selfridge -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-vs-Brick-vs-Glamour-vs-Morphic-vs-WTF-tp4905178.… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I debug: "There was an error while trying to install GitFileTree. Installation was cancelled." from Catalog Browser

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 06/07/2016 15:28, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Alistair, > > Well thank you very much ... Those two menu items are very well hidden:) > Until you prompted me to look closely I never even noticed that little > icon... > > Is there a reason that those two menu items are not on the stack pane menu? Hi, I already opened an issue some month ago about it. As you, I think it should be in the stack pane context menu. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17387/Missing-copy-stack-in-GTDebugger > > Now that I used the copystack menu item, I see what makes the stacks > unreadable ... the printString used for this stack frame does a very > good job of hiding the actual selector: > > [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo: ann action. > textMorph shoutStyler style: textMorph text ] in [ textMorph textArea > handleEdit: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo: ann > action. > textMorph shoutStyler style: textMorph text ] ] in > GLMMorphicPharoScriptRenderer(GLMMorphicPharoCodeRenderer)>>actOnHighlightAndEvaluate: > in Block: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo...etc... > > especially for very large stacks ... I expect the "copy to stack" menu > to provide the style of output that I see in the debugger stack pane and > in this case: > > GLMMorphicPharoScriptRenderer(GLMMorphicPharoCodeRenderer)>>actOnHighlightAndEvaluate: > in Block: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo...etc... > > is much more readable. > > Dale > > > -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I debug: "There was an error while trying to install GitFileTree. Installation was cancelled." from Catalog Browser

by Dale Henrichs

Alistair, Well thank you very much ... Those two menu items are very well hidden:) Until you prompted me to look closely I never even noticed that little icon... Is there a reason that those two menu items are not on the stack pane menu? Now that I used the copystack menu item, I see what makes the stacks unreadable ... the printString used for this stack frame does a very good job of hiding the actual selector: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo: ann action. textMorph shoutStyler style: textMorph text ] in [ textMorph textArea handleEdit: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo: ann action. textMorph shoutStyler style: textMorph text ] ] in GLMMorphicPharoScriptRenderer(GLMMorphicPharoCodeRenderer)>>actOnHighlightAndEvaluate: in Block: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo...etc... especially for very large stacks ... I expect the "copy to stack" menu to provide the style of output that I see in the debugger stack pane and in this case: GLMMorphicPharoScriptRenderer(GLMMorphicPharoCodeRenderer)>>actOnHighlightAndEvaluate: in Block: [ textMorph textArea editor highlightEvaluateAndDo...etc... is much more readable. Dale On 7/6/16 1:16 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Dale, > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 11:53:19AM -0700, Dale Henrichs wrote: >> While we're on the subject, when one does get a debugger How is a beginner >> supposed to share the error information with the folks on this list? >> >> I have a debugger open on the stack after executing: >> >> Metacello new >> configuration: 'GitFileTree'; >> version: #stable; >> repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo50/main'; >> load >> >> which was my guess for the load expression and I'm getting a walkback that I >> assume is the same as that produced by the Catalog Browser, but there is >> apparently no way of really knowing ... >> >> Anyway, I've got a very nice debugger with a nice stack and nice error >> message in the title bar, but I don't see any way of actually being able to >> share a simple stack trace and error message with the mailing list other >> than to produce a screenshot which will not show the whole stack .. >> >> I happen to know that the PharoDebug.log contains a stack trace (and I've >> attached it to this email), but I don't know how a beginner would know to do >> this, either. >> >> Of course, I think that the stack dump in the PharoDebug.log is unreadable, >> but at least it is a sharable stack. >> >> Finally to summarize, the actual message error is: 'invalid version number: >> normal version component must be integer v0' and this error is very likely >> consequence of a proposed bugfix for a Metacello bug that was reported a >> month or so ago [1], as I'm using a version of Metacello with the proposed >> bugfix present ... so at the end of the day, this is a problem with my code >> ... >> >> But I do think the two questions that came from this exercise are still >> relevant: >> >> How does a beginner report/debug a Catalog Browser error? >> How does a beginner produce a sharable stack trace? >> >> Dale > I can help with producing a shareable stack trace... > > The debugger has a set of buttons near the top: Proceed, Restart, Into, > Over, Through. Just to the right of Through is a drop down list with > Fuel out Stack and Copy to clipboard. You can use either of those to > share the stack. > > HTH, > Alistair > >

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Mooc

by Arie van Wingerden

Hi all, thank you for the answers! Nice to see the stuff is available for free. A am also amazed that so many books are available for free. Thx, Arie 2016-07-06 15:11 GMT+02:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > > Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... > > anymore => yet :) > > But the resources should be available > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Mooc-after-the-19th-of-june-tp4900406p4900498.h… > > We need someone to find a place to host all this iirc. > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque < > cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 06/07/2016 14:00, Arie van Wingerden wrote: >> > âHi, >> > >> > on the main Pharo page I see Pharo Mooc mentioned. Obviously I am too >> > late to join. >> > >> > Will there be a similar course in the (near) future? >> > >> > Are there other (video) courses available? I checked Udemy and O'Reilly, >> > but alas, Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... >> > >> > Thx, >> > Arie >> >> Hi, >> >> The Pharo Mooc will end the 16 of July. After this date, if I am not >> wrong, the resources will be available for free. (Video, slides, >> exercisesâ¦) >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> http://www.synectique.eu >> >> 165 Avenue Bretagne >> Lille 59000 France >> >> >

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Mooc

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... anymore => yet :) But the resources should be available http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Mooc-after-the-19th-of-june-tp4900406p4900498.h… We need someone to find a place to host all this iirc. On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque < cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/07/2016 14:00, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > âHi, > > > > on the main Pharo page I see Pharo Mooc mentioned. Obviously I am too > > late to join. > > > > Will there be a similar course in the (near) future? > > > > Are there other (video) courses available? I checked Udemy and O'Reilly, > > but alas, Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... > > > > Thx, > > Arie > > Hi, > > The Pharo Mooc will end the 16 of July. After this date, if I am not > wrong, the resources will be available for free. (Video, slides, > exercisesâ¦) > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > >

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Mooc

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 06/07/2016 14:00, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > âHi, > > on the main Pharo page I see Pharo Mooc mentioned. Obviously I am too > late to join. > > Will there be a similar course in the (near) future? > > Are there other (video) courses available? I checked Udemy and O'Reilly, > but alas, Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... > > Thx, > Arie Hi, The Pharo Mooc will end the 16 of July. After this date, if I am not wrong, the resources will be available for free. (Video, slides, exercisesâ¦) -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

July 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy a Pharo app?

by Damien Cassou

Arie van Wingerden <xapwing(a)gmail.com> writes: > Is there a recipe for deploying a desktop Pharo app? > > What I mean is: > - no "world" windows visible > - autostart using a specific message > - etc. PharoLauncher and DrGeo are possible sources of inspiration for you. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

July 6, 2016

How to deploy a Pharo app?

by Arie van Wingerden

Hi, I searched for this, found things, but they ended up with broken links ... Is there a recipe for deploying a desktop Pharo app? What I mean is: - no "world" windows visible - autostart using a specific message - etc. Thanks! Arie

July 6, 2016

Pharo Mooc

by Arie van Wingerden

âHi, on the main Pharo page I see Pharo Mooc mentioned. Obviously I am too late to join. Will there be a similar course in the (near) future? Are there other (video) courses available? I checked Udemy and O'Reilly, but alas, Smalltalk isn't that popular anymore nowadays... Thx, Arie

July 6, 2016