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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Peter, thanks for documenting all that :) Thierry Le 25/07/2016 Ã 19:28, Peter Uhnak a Ã©crit : > Hi Juraj, > > I've finally forced myself to finish a guide on using gitfiletree: https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-p… so hopefully it will be of some use to you. > > Couple of notes: > * GitFileTree loaded from Catalog still doesn't work in Pharo 6, so use the script Thierry provided > * There's some pain associated with some operations (e.g. merging, loading), this will be addressed sooner or later by IceBerg, which is hopefully the future of git in Pharo ( https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg ) > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:47:24AM -0400, Juraj Kubelka wrote: >> Hi Alexandre, >> >> I will first give a try. I think once the Pharo community moves to GitHub, it will help to all. It could be painful, but SmalltalkHub is also painful and we are loosing other opportunities that GitHub service offers. >> >> I agree that it could be painful. I am fine using external GIT tools. Even for Java (or other) projects I use external GIT tools. The important is that we can easily deploy projects and people can load it (,e.g., Catalog Browser). >> >> Cheers, >> Juraj >> >>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 09:14, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Juraj, >>> >>> Although I find very appealing to work with Git, it is still very painful. Some of the issues I feel right now: difficult of merging, checking for source code differences, there is unfortunately a difference between installing using Metacello and cloning a repository, â¦ >>> We can discuss it if you want (I am back in Chile). >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> can you point me to a latest (best) way to use GitHub for Pharo projects (Pharo 6)? >>>> >>>> Is the GitFileTree project the way to use it? >>>> >>>> How does ConfigurationOf change? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Juraj >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 25 Jul 2016, at 20:34, Casimiro - GMAIL <casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Em 25-07-2016 15:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k escreveu: >> You mean "OSPlatform current" ? > Thank you Smalltalk os version. OSPlatform current == Smalltalk os. So it can also be: OSPlatform current version. Esteban >> >> Peter >> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Casimiro - GMAIL <casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com <mailto:casimiro.barreto@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in pharo? >> >> >> >> >

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

by Casimiro - GMAIL

Em 25-07-2016 15:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k escreveu: > You mean "OSPlatform current" ? Thank you > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Casimiro - GMAIL > <casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com <mailto:casimiro.barreto@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > > What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in pharo? > > > >

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How learning Smalltalk can make you a better developer

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

On 25/07/16 11:16, horrido wrote: > BREAKING NEWS!!! > > My TechBeacon article has officially become the Most Popular at the website > with the number of views exceeding 11,200. And this only the first week of > publication! > > It all happened because HN asked me to repost the article last night. > Apparently, they thought it deserved to be reposted because since last > Monday it hadn't gotten much traction. I owe HN great thanks. > > This is also why the article's Live Listener Count jumped to over 340, now > settling around 260. That's still 10X higher than for any other TechBeacon > article! > > See the active comment threads > <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12154484> at HN. > > Clearly, I've tapped into a large vein of Smalltalk interest. It behooves > all Smalltalkers to take advantage of this and run with it. Use it to > evangelize and promote and initiate discussions with the public. > > We may never get another opportunity... > May be, or may be popularity is not such an important metric everywhere. I think is important to advocate Smalltalk and related ideas and ecosystem. We're having now our Data Week [1] edition right now with a workshop of 16 attendants from several disciplines (some photos at [2] and [3]) and even share your post with them. [1] http://mutabit.com/dataweek/ [2] https://tupale.co/s194 [3] https://twitter.com/hashtag/DataWeek4?src=hash Maybe two or three will be active/visible part of the local community in a not so distant future, but this kind of slow community building with small sustainable acts are less sensible to "catch the opportunity just right now!" logic. Some sense of intensity (like in MOOC, hackathons, making noise on hacker news, etc) needs to be combined with some sense of quit, to get a better rhythm :-). Bests, Offray

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

You mean "OSPlatform current" ? Peter On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Casimiro - GMAIL < casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in pharo? > > > >

July 25, 2016

What's the equivalent of Smalltalk osVersion in Pharo????

by Casimiro - GMAIL

Hello, What's the equivalent of Smalltallk osVersion in pharo?

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and GIT

by Peter Uhnak

Hi Juraj, I've finally forced myself to finish a guide on using gitfiletree: https://www.peteruhnak.com/blog/2016/07/25/how-to-use-git-and-github-with-p… so hopefully it will be of some use to you. Couple of notes: * GitFileTree loaded from Catalog still doesn't work in Pharo 6, so use the script Thierry provided * There's some pain associated with some operations (e.g. merging, loading), this will be addressed sooner or later by IceBerg, which is hopefully the future of git in Pharo ( https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg ) Peter On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:47:24AM -0400, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > I will first give a try. I think once the Pharo community moves to GitHub, it will help to all. It could be painful, but SmalltalkHub is also painful and we are loosing other opportunities that GitHub service offers. > > I agree that it could be painful. I am fine using external GIT tools. Even for Java (or other) projects I use external GIT tools. The important is that we can easily deploy projects and people can load it (,e.g., Catalog Browser). > > Cheers, > Juraj > > > On Jul 25, 2016, at 09:14, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Juraj, > > > > Although I find very appealing to work with Git, it is still very painful. Some of the issues I feel right now: difficult of merging, checking for source code differences, there is unfortunately a difference between installing using Metacello and cloning a repository, â¦ > > We can discuss it if you want (I am back in Chile). > > > > Alexandre > > > > > >> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)icloud.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> can you point me to a latest (best) way to use GitHub for Pharo projects (Pharo 6)? > >> > >> Is the GitFileTree project the way to use it? > >> > >> How does ConfigurationOf change? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Juraj > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > >

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Can GitHubcello be used against BitBucket?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

As far as I can tell, the discussion is not about GitHubcello. If you need a help with GitHubcello please CC me, because I cannot follow everything. Uko > On 25 Jul 2016, at 17:50, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > Just a couple of articles to head off problems in case you first tried > SSH and then switched to HTTPS. > > https://confluence.atlassian.com/bitbucket/change-the-remote-url-to-your-re… > > https://help.github.com/articles/changing-a-remote-s-url/ > > cheers -ben > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Dale Henrichs > <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: >> >> >> On 7/25/16 7:50 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: >> >> >> >> 2016-07-25 16:40 GMT+02:00 Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/25/16 6:40 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Dale, >>>> >>>> what I'd like is a way to detect if credentials are necessary on a https >>>> repo, and add (or ask for them) at the smalltalk level. >>> >>> Well the user should know from the get-go that they are using a private >>> repo and if they supply an https: scheme then you can pretty much know that >>> sooner or later you will need credentials >> >> >> Ok. >> >>>> >>>> It would then be easy to handle that in the https url. Would anyone know >>>> how to do that with Zn? >>> >>> Take a look at MetacelloPharo30Platform>>downloadJSON:username:pass: for >>> and example of how to download with HTTPS credentials using Zinc. >> >> >> I'll have a look. I tried a few urls(*) on Sean bitbucket example, and the >> difficulty is that base access to the repository is open (without >> authentication) and I need to understand how git create a push request to >> generate an url triggering an authentication :( >> >> (*) the response I got on those seems to be a login page instead of an >> authentication request :( >> >> ah yes of course ... thus the need to use git credentials[1] ... Okay, I >> found GitHub documentation for "Caching Your GitHub password" for linux[2], >> windows[3], mac[4], and all[5]. these solutions are git-specific and not >> github specific so they should work for bitbucket just as well ... >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://git-scm.com/docs/gitcredentials >> [2] >> https://help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git/#platf… >> [3] >> https://help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git/#platf… >> [4] >> https://help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git/#platf… >> [5] >> https://help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git/#platf… >

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How learning Smalltalk can make you a better developer

by horrido

BREAKING NEWS!!! My TechBeacon article has officially become the Most Popular at the website with the number of views exceeding 11,200. And this only the first week of publication! It all happened because HN asked me to repost the article last night. Apparently, they thought it deserved to be reposted because since last Monday it hadn't gotten much traction. I owe HN great thanks. This is also why the article's Live Listener Count jumped to over 340, now settling around 260. That's still 10X higher than for any other TechBeacon article! See the active comment threads <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12154484> at HN. Clearly, I've tapped into a large vein of Smalltalk interest. It behooves all Smalltalkers to take advantage of this and run with it. Use it to evangelize and promote and initiate discussions with the public. We may never get another opportunity... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-learning-Smalltalk-can-make-you-a-better-develope… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 5 crashing

by Ben Coman

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Sean Glazier <sglazier456(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I have been saving and restarting my images all night and I carefully do a > save as regularly in case I toast an image. This morning I can not seem to > start up any of my images including a clean one. Strange that it happens with a clean image. Could you give a blow-by-blow of downloading Image & VM and running them? Did you have any startup scripts? (Though I can't find a link to describe the current way startup scripts are handled) cheers -ben > Head scratch. std err has > it dying in the weak array finalization process. Could I get enlightened as > to why? > > [31m > [0mProcess>>terminate > WeakArray class>>restartFinalizationProcess > WeakArray class>>startUp: > ClassSessionHandler>>startup: > [ :each | each startup: isImageStarting ] in WorkingSession>>runStartup: in > Block: [ :each | each startup: isImageStarting ] > [ aBlock value: each ] in [ :each | > [ aBlock value: each ] > on: Exception > do: [ :error | self errorHandler handleError: error ] ] in > WorkingSession>>runList:do: in Block: [ aBlock value: each ] > BlockClosure>>on:do: > [ :each | > [ aBlock value: each ] > on: Exception > do: [ :error | self errorHandler handleError: error ] ] in > WorkingSession>>runList:do: in Block: [ :each | ... > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: > WorkingSession>>runList:do: > WorkingSession>>runStartup: > WorkingSession>>start: > SessionManager>>snapshot:andQuit: > SmalltalkImage>>snapshot:andQuit: > [ Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: false ] in WorldState class>>saveSession > in Block: [ Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: false ] > BlockClosure>>ensure: > CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: > WorldState class>>saveSession > [ | selArgCount | > "show cursor in case item opens a new MVC window" > (selArgCount := selector numArgs) = 0 > ifTrue: [ target perform: selector ] > ifFalse: [ selArgCount = arguments size > ifTrue: [ target perform: selector withArguments: arguments ] > ifFalse: [ target perform: selector withArguments: (arguments copyWith: evt) > ]. > self showShortcut ]. > self changed ] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: in > Block: [ | selArgCount |... > BlockClosure>>ensure: > Cursor>>showWhile: > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>mouseUp: > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>handleMouseUp: > MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: > ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>handleMouseUp: > MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: > [ ^ anEvent sentTo: self ] in MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: in > Block: [ ^ anEvent sentTo: self ] > [0m > > Kind Regards, > > Sean Glazier >

July 25, 2016