June 2016 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Coral?

by Valentin Ryckewaert

Hello, I didn't work on home for now. For symlink I just need isSymlink to work (Esteban is working on it I think) 2016-06-25 8:22 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > We do not work on any syntax because people do not understand anything. > > First the system should be able to work well when deployed and we should > be able to access > > lowlevel unix commands smoothly. > > > Stef > > Le 24/6/16 Ã 14:50, Yuriy Tymchuk a Ã©crit : > > Hi, thanks. > > Is there any documentation left? Like what is the syntax and so on? > > Cheers. > Uko > > On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:24, Valentin Ryckewaert < > valentin.ryckewaert(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm the trainee responsible of it, i'm currently working on it by > searching the points of interaction between Pharo and his files(changeslog > etc...) to block them. > You can find my work on > Metacello new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Uryon' project: 'FilePolicy'; > configuration: 'Coral'; > version: #development; > onConflictUseIncoming; > load. > > 2016-06-24 11:23 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk < <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> > yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> what is the status of Coral? Iâve heard that someone is supposed to work >> on it, but even the main webpage I know is down: >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/ >> >> Uko >> > > > >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Better color contrast for class extensions in dark theme

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 08:15, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > It should be a settings in Nautilus (then may be a uitheme) > yes, this is about the theme :) > > > Le 24/6/16 Ã 20:41, Cyril Ferlicot a Ã©crit : >> >> >> On Friday, 24 June 2016, Henrik Nergaard < <mailto:henrik.nergaard@uia.no>henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no <mailto:henrik.nergaard@uia.no>> wrote: >> Pharo3DarkTheme >>#selectionColor >> >> >> The problem is that for the extension color it is hard coded into Nautilus. We should add a method in UITheme and use it. >> >> From my phone >> -- >> Cyril >> >> >> >> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org');>] On Behalf Of Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:20 PM >> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org');> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Better color contrast for class extensions in dark theme >> >> >> Hi :), >> >> Well, in the spirit of today's bug fixing hackathon, I should ask better some pointers about how to fix the color issue myself. So any advice is appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >> On 24/06/16 11:52, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: >> >> Hi :), >> >> I'm enjoying the Pharo Dark Theme a lot (in fact my tweet on a 10 minutes hack about it[1] have more impact that the tweets with month and a half work behind for Panama Papers[2]... that's life :-P), but I still have some suggestions on color contrast, particularly when you're doing class extensions and the light gray over blue makes the reading really difficult (see screenshot at bottom). >> >> [1] https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/738828257680850944 <https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/738828257680850944> >> [2] https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/729069808684285953 <https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/729069808684285953> >> >> <Mail Attachment.png> >> >> Hope this helps to improve this theme. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbugz 13260 reappears?

by Tudor Girba

+1 > On Jun 25, 2016, at 8:23 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Thanks you guys this is really cool to see you working like that! > > > Le 24/6/16 Ã 23:45, Alistair Grant a Ã©crit : >> Hi Nicolai, >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:22:07PM +0200, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> Can you try if this is working with this change (attach .st) >>> I'll open an issue and do some more tests. >> Yep, that works, I can inspect the variable correctly in both the demo >> code I posted and the original code that triggered the problem. >> >> Thanks! >> Alistair >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbugz 13260 reappears?

by stepharo

Thanks you guys this is really cool to see you working like that! Le 24/6/16 Ã 23:45, Alistair Grant a Ã©crit : > Hi Nicolai, > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:22:07PM +0200, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> Can you try if this is working with this change (attach .st) >> I'll open an issue and do some more tests. > Yep, that works, I can inspect the variable correctly in both the demo > code I posted and the original code that triggered the problem. > > Thanks! > Alistair > >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Coral?

by stepharo

We do not work on any syntax because people do not understand anything. First the system should be able to work well when deployed and we should be able to access lowlevel unix commands smoothly. Stef Le 24/6/16 Ã 14:50, Yuriy Tymchuk a Ã©crit : > Hi, thanks. > > Is there any documentation left? Like what is the syntax and so on? > > Cheers. > Uko > >> On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:24, Valentin Ryckewaert >> <valentin.ryckewaert(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:valentin.ryckewaert@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm the trainee responsible of it, i'm currently working on it by >> searching the points of interaction between Pharo and his >> files(changeslog etc...) to block them. >> You can find my work on >> Metacello new >> smalltalkhubUser: 'Uryon' project: 'FilePolicy'; >> configuration: 'Coral'; >> version: #development; >> onConflictUseIncoming; >> load. >> >> 2016-06-24 11:23 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com >> <mailto:yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>>: >> >> Hi, >> >> what is the status of Coral? Iâve heard that someone is supposed >> to work on it, but even the main webpage I know is down: >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/ >> >> Uko >> >> >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Coral?

by stepharo

Hi Yuriy We restarted to work on it. Mariano worked on OSSubprocess. Working on improving filesystem support. Valentin what is the status - of $HOME - of symlink We are working on making sure that the system can be put in file read only mode. May be Damien Pollet will produce a better command line handler but it does not depend on me. So I do not know. If someone wants to help let me know. Stef

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Better color contrast for class extensions in dark theme

by stepharo

It should be a settings in Nautilus (then may be a uitheme) Le 24/6/16 Ã 20:41, Cyril Ferlicot a Ã©crit : > > > On Friday, 24 June 2016, Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no > <mailto:henrik.nergaard@uia.no>> wrote: > > Pharo3DarkTheme >>#selectionColor > > The problem is that for the extension color it is hard coded into > Nautilus. We should add a method in UITheme and use it. > > From my phone > -- > Cyril > > > *From:*Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org');>] > *On Behalf Of *Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 7:20 PM > *To:* pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org');> > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-users] Better color contrast for class > extensions in dark theme > > Hi :), > > Well, in the spirit of today's bug fixing hackathon, I should ask > better some pointers about how to fix the color issue myself. So > any advice is appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 24/06/16 11:52, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > > Hi :), > > I'm enjoying the Pharo Dark Theme a lot (in fact my tweet on a > 10 minutes hack about it[1] have more impact that the tweets > with month and a half work behind for Panama Papers[2]... > that's life :-P), but I still have some suggestions on color > contrast, particularly when you're doing class extensions and > the light gray over blue makes the reading really difficult > (see screenshot at bottom). > > [1]https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/738828257680850944 > > [2]https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/729069808684285953 > > > > > > Hope this helps to improve this theme. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > > -- > Cheers > Cyril Ferlicot >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Coral?

by Damien Pollet

I should still have the sources for the old website somewhere, I'll check if I can re-deploy them On 24 June 2016 at 14:53, Valentin Ryckewaert <valentin.ryckewaert(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > > if there is any documentation I didn't see it sorry :( The syntax may > change in the future) :) > > 2016-06-24 14:50 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > >> Hi, thanks. >> >> Is there any documentation left? Like what is the syntax and so on? >> >> Cheers. >> Uko >> >> On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:24, Valentin Ryckewaert < >> valentin.ryckewaert(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm the trainee responsible of it, i'm currently working on it by >> searching the points of interaction between Pharo and his files(changeslog >> etc...) to block them. >> You can find my work on >> Metacello new >> smalltalkhubUser: 'Uryon' project: 'FilePolicy'; >> configuration: 'Coral'; >> version: #development; >> onConflictUseIncoming; >> load. >> >> 2016-06-24 11:23 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> what is the status of Coral? Iâve heard that someone is supposed to work >>> on it, but even the main webpage I know is down: >>> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/ >>> >>> Uko >>> >> >> >> >

June 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Styling a Pharo UI application

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Look at spotter. It is not super fancy, but it has all the margins done right, it does not have extra borders and all this little details. If you have seen Brick widgets they have all the nice proportions, they are not over encumbered by details, they have nice animations, they have nice gamma. There are small details everywhere. Ok, maybe Iâve exaggerated with âuglyâ, but when I was deciding between Pharo and Squeak (I had to choose what will I use for my programming class), I opened Squeak, saw the strange greenish background, some mouse face, and windows with the style of 90s. Then I opened Pharo and it had this OS X-ish look so definitely I choose Pharo. Now style guides have changed. We have dropped watery look of OS-X but now we have turned into OS9 with all the rectangular gray widgets. I know that we donât have designers to inverted something cool, but what GT teem did is they took Google material design guidelines and implemented widgets in Pharo, so if I use them it will be pleasant to the userâs eye. Otherwise we are saying how cool Pharo is and how good we are, but a random Android developer can build nicer interface because they have this sexy widgets. And yes, in the end for me the big turn off with Spec is the direct example with Tommaso. You know that something is wrong, so you want to change the size of a font. And then you ask on the mailing list and it turns out that itâs not that easy and you have to either hack something, or submit patch to Specâ¦ In the end Iâve decided to use plain morphic because at least there I can change whatever I want. Uko > On 25 Jun 2016, at 00:00, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Hi Uko, > > just wondering: for you, what makes Spec UIâs ugly? And also, what are the features that are missing that require magic? I donât understand your example either, sorry :-( > > -- > Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I donât mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/> . > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry <http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry> > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >> On Jun 24, 2016, at 17:50, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com <mailto:yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>> wrote: >> >> But when you take Spec and build a UI it is ugly. And it is very painful to change it. You cannot say `model title size: model title size * 1.5`, you have to do some magic. >

June 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Styling a Pharo UI application

by Johan Fabry

Hi Uko, just wondering: for you, what makes Spec UIâs ugly? And also, what are the features that are missing that require magic? I donât understand your example either, sorry :-( -- Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I donât mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/> . Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > On Jun 24, 2016, at 17:50, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > > But when you take Spec and build a UI it is ugly. And it is very painful to change it. You cannot say `model title size: model title size * 1.5`, you have to do some magic.

June 24, 2016