February 2016 - Pharo-users

short spotter demos

by Tudor Girba

Hi, The recent debates around Spotter, showed that some of its features are not well understood. In an effort to document it more thoroughly I created a couple of (very short) videos. They have no sound. Please take a look and let us know what you think. Spotting a class with GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wIh4fekcD8 Scoping a search to a specific category in GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-fY4mN6Isc Using category shortcuts in GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USNZ7_6gLDA Using preview in GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSm5xylmTqM Using the dive-in action in GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7mJBX3Oblw Loading a public playground with GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeDDLLdA1v8 Navigating through files with GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHQqXcS0vDI Refining a search through the dive-in-category action with GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IclLett0d6c Opening a cached playground page with GTSpotter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_yndTSsj8c Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 23/02/16 15:15, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: [...] > There is any way to run a "script" and the end of the installation > process? I would like to run "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar" once > grafoscopio is installed to make it more evident and easier to start with. > Never mind. I have found the proper explanation in the PBE2 book. I will ask some questions after following the documentation, if any arrives. Cheers, Offray

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Esteban Lorenzano

right now feels a lot better than before. also the explicit (visible) keybingins to filter are a great addition :) Esteban > On 24 Feb 2016, at 19:34, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks. Indeed, I agree with you. In fact, this is what we did, and then I was told that people would rather want to discuss beforehand :). So, actually, this was a little experiment. > > The thing is that we do not want to disturb people, but we need the feedback to improve fast. So, right now it looks like the only real way to get feedback is to push the changes. This has the tendency to create some annoyance, but we are trying to react as fast as we can to limit it. I hope this will be Ok with everyone. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Christophe Demarey <christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi Doru, >> >> I don't see a better way to have beta-testers than having your code on the pharo alpha image ;) >> You will have very soon feedback and then you can iterate. >> >> Cheers, >> Christophe >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > >

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] A Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-lines text?

by Johan Fabry

Hello Julien, have you tried configuring it with enabled: false ? > On Feb 24, 2016, at 13:24, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: > > Hello, > > I wonder if there is a Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-line text? > > There is TextInputFieldModel but the text is editable. > > Thanks in advance, > > Julien > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Thanks. Indeed, I agree with you. In fact, this is what we did, and then I was told that people would rather want to discuss beforehand :). So, actually, this was a little experiment. The thing is that we do not want to disturb people, but we need the feedback to improve fast. So, right now it looks like the only real way to get feedback is to push the changes. This has the tendency to create some annoyance, but we are trying to react as fast as we can to limit it. I hope this will be Ok with everyone. Cheers, Doru > On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Christophe Demarey <christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi Doru, > > I don't see a better way to have beta-testers than having your code on the pharo alpha image ;) > You will have very soon feedback and then you can iterate. > > Cheers, > Christophe > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

Feb. 24, 2016

ReÂ : Re: [Pharo-dev] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Christophe Demarey

Hi Doru, I don't see a better way to have beta-testers than having your code on the pharo alpha image ;) You will have very soon feedback and then you can iterate. Cheers, Christophe

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Tudor Girba

Hi, > On Feb 24, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> We need a bit of help with testing the order in Spotter. We do not have a real solution yet, but the current one should improve the situation. >> >> We need a bit of feedback for this one: >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17656/Spotter-should-sort-search-results >> >> Essentially, you would need to load the latest GT-Spotter and GT-SpotterExtensions-Core and let us know if it works better for spotting implementors or classes. > > I have the impression this is already in the image. It seems to be > working fine. Next time, it might help if you could just give us a Pharo > expression that loads the patch. Indeed, it is now in the image. Unfortunately, there was no feedback :(. I will do it better next time. I just thought that given the urgency with which issues were reported, people would have been more eager to test, so I hurried up :). Cheers, Doru > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

Feb. 24, 2016

A Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-lines text?

by Julien Delplanque

Hello, I wonder if there is a Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-line text? There is TextInputFieldModel but the text is editable. Thanks in advance, Julien

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Marcus Denker

Hello, Here is the fix: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17687/fix-changing-class-comments-does-no… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17687/fix-changing-class-comments-does-no…> (Done in a time that I should have done something elseâ¦) > On 24 Feb 2016, at 12:06, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > I will fix it todayâ¦ I hope. > > >> On 24 Feb 2016, at 12:00, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> ??? >> >> Class comments cannot be improved then? >> Well... >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them >>> >>>> On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >>>>> >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >>>>> >>>>>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Done! >>>>>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Alex >>>>>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Call for action for Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

>> Dear community, >> What are the 3 aspects you would like to see improved in Roassal? > > My favorite improvement would not really be a Roassal feature > but would save me a lot of time: > I would like the configuration versions to stop depending on numbered versions of outside dependencies (Glamour, Neo-JSON-Core) Hi! I do not get this. Relying on the baseline is not enough? Roassal is very simply packaged. Only 4 packages: Roassal, Trachel, Roassal2Spec, Roassal2GT. It is very unlikely that this list of package will grow (not until we have a Git integration at least). You can make your configuration directly point to these packages no? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016