February 2016 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Call for action for Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

> - the possibility to place hangout of the edges on nodes (as box) more flexible. Indeed, I am reverse engineering a database containing around 80 tables and lot of foreign keys and the result is not readable since the edge are orthogonal starting from the top or the bottom of the box corresponding to the column name. I would like a real entity-relation diagram. Do you have a screenshot showing the issue? > If you want, I can show you the current stage of the visu (once again done in Telescope on top of Roassal) in order that you see on real data how uggly it is. Yes please, some screenshots would help Alexandre > > Cheers, > Anne > >> Le 24 fÃ©vr. 2016 Ã 09:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : >> >> Dear community, >> >> As you may have seen, Roassal has entered a stabilization phase. The book AgileVisualization.com will soon be released. After its release, Roassal will go over a new development phase. In order to prepare it, I am asking this question: >> >> What are the 3 aspects you would like to see improved in Roassal? >> >> You can answer publicly or by sending private messages. >> >> Kind regards, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016

Call for action for Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear community, As you may have seen, Roassal has entered a stabilization phase. The book AgileVisualization.com will soon be released. After its release, Roassal will go over a new development phase. In order to prepare it, I am asking this question: What are the 3 aspects you would like to see improved in Roassal? You can answer publicly or by sending private messages. Kind regards, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Strange behavior of Pragma>>#allNamed:in:

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: > I experience a strange behavior with Pragma>>#allNamed:in: > > When I use > > Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: MyClass > > It works as expected. > > But when instead of hard-coding "MyClass" I use "self class" in an method > (instance side), So what do you get from...? Transcript crShow: self class. Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: self class cheers -ben

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Strange behavior of Pragma>>#allNamed:in:

by Nicolai Hess

2016-02-23 22:19 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu>: > Hi, > > I experience a strange behavior with Pragma>>#allNamed:in: > > When I use > > Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: MyClass > > It works as expected. > > But when instead of hard-coding "MyClass" I use "self class" in an method > (instance side), > > Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: self class > Works for me, where is the pragma defined, on a class or instance side method? > > returns an empty array. > > What can I do about it? > > Julien > >

Feb. 23, 2016

Strange behavior of Pragma>>#allNamed:in:

by Julien Delplanque

Hi, I experience a strange behavior with Pragma>>#allNamed:in: When I use Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: MyClass It works as expected. But when instead of hard-coding "MyClass" I use "self class" in an method (instance side), Pragma allNamed: #myPragma in: self class returns an empty array. What can I do about it? Julien

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Mariano, Thanks for the help! I have already grafoscopio available as a package inside the catalog for Pharo 4 and today I will package it for Pharo 5. The developing platform is really Moose 6, because is also the one for Roassal2, so it becomes already integrated with a core dependency for my project. I have started already with my Spanish documentation notes [1][2]. They will be extended and improved in the upcoming data week workshop/hackathon. [1] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/wiki?name=pharo-catalog [2] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/wiki?name=instalacion There is any way to run a "script" and the end of the installation process? I would like to run "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar" once grafoscopio is installed to make it more evident and easier to start with. Cheers, Offray On 23/02/16 06:54, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > > Thanks Mariano for your quick answer, > > > I had to be quick, otherwise wouldn't be useful ;) > > Effectively I had not commited to meta repos for Pharo. Video > tutorials at [1] and [2] or documentation at [3] doesn't emphasize > enough (at least not on my newbie perspective) the proper choosing > of MetaRepoForPharo40 (or 5) to make your project show at the > catalog, despite of being the repo of choice at the 1:59" of [1], > so would be nice to put it in [3]. I think that I have done it for > the MetaRepoForPharo40 because I didn't find MetaRepoForPharo50 as > an available option and I don't know how to add it. > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRJDuWL-Q0 > [3] the http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/note-for-developers > > > Yes, I agree. I also noted that... [3] should make it explicit and at > least show a few meta repos urls examples > > > Could you please check if configurationOfGrafscopio is now on > MetaRepoForPharo40 (and tell me how can I check it by myself) and > point me to some documentation on how to make MetaRepoForPharo50 > available in the repositories? > > > I simply opened the Monticello Browser, added the repository: > > MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'Pharo' > project: 'MetaRepoForPharo40' > user: '' > password: '' > > And open it :) > > I just checked yours and seems it is there and seems correct. > > To push it to 5.0 you simply need to copy the ConfigurationOfXXX to > MetaRepoForPharo50... but....be careful as Catalog tool will always > load #stable: version....so you must be sure that #stable: works in > each of the repos where you publish your conf. > > > I will be trying to create some Spanish documentation notes on the > grafoscopio fossil wiki[4] on all this community tips and advice > while preparing and making the data week (and after) so it can > help another newbies and learners on Pharo/Smalltalk. > > > > Buenisimo! > > > [4] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/ > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 22/02/16 21:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> Hi Offray, >> >> I don't see the package ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio commited >> either in MetaRepoForPharo50 or MetaRepoForPharo40. Did you copy >> the ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio into the desired meta repositories? >> >> Cheers, >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb >> to Saturday 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the >> grafoscopio's installation by making it available via the >> Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and published >> my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on >> http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper >> time to the process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA >> >> I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I >> don't know what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about >> the catalog generation being run 24 four hours, which gives >> me only two more attempts to know what I'm doing wrong before >> the event starts. How can I check that the publishing >> procedure was fine? >> >> In a related matter, How can I made the installation >> procedure to run something at the end of it, like >> "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so the new interface >> elements inform the user about a proper installation? >> >> Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use >> grafoscopio, but I think that making it smoother on each >> workshop/hackathon is better (the problem is that most of >> these ideas come while the event is getting closer). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Alexandre! Next time I will try help first and then make questions refering to it. Cheers, Offray On 23/02/16 04:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Just for info, I have written an Help, available in the base image. Just open the Help browser > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA >> >> I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the publishing procedure was fine? >> >> In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? >> >> Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting closer). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >>

Feb. 23, 2016

curiousity, ensure unwind block priority inheritance

by Ben Coman

Just thought I'd share something enlightening I learnt today, a curious surprise... When a process is terminated, the #ensure: unwind block effectively inherits the priority of the terminator process. Thus the following... log := OrderedCollection new. s := Semaphore new. p := [ [ log add: 1. s signal. log add: 4. ] ensure: [log add: 5] ] forkAt: 30. s wait. log add: 2. "p terminate." log add: 3. 100 milliSeconds wait. Transcript crShow: log. ...gives {1 2 3 4 5} as expected. However uncommenting the terminate statement produces {1 2 5 3}. Quite non-intuitive** to have the "5" code inside the priority 30 block execute before the "3" code of the priority 40 of the UI/Playground. **meaning it bit me for a few hours trying to understand some ProcessTests related to Case 17588. cheers -ben

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > Thanks Mariano for your quick answer, > > I had to be quick, otherwise wouldn't be useful ;) > Effectively I had not commited to meta repos for Pharo. Video tutorials at > [1] and [2] or documentation at [3] doesn't emphasize enough (at least not > on my newbie perspective) the proper choosing of MetaRepoForPharo40 (or 5) > to make your project show at the catalog, despite of being the repo of > choice at the 1:59" of [1], so would be nice to put it in [3]. I think that > I have done it for the MetaRepoForPharo40 because I didn't find > MetaRepoForPharo50 as an available option and I don't know how to add it. > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRJDuWL-Q0 > [3] the http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/note-for-developers > Yes, I agree. I also noted that... [3] should make it explicit and at least show a few meta repos urls examples > > Could you please check if configurationOfGrafscopio is now on > MetaRepoForPharo40 (and tell me how can I check it by myself) and point me > to some documentation on how to make MetaRepoForPharo50 available in the > repositories? > > I simply opened the Monticello Browser, added the repository: MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo40' user: '' password: '' And open it :) I just checked yours and seems it is there and seems correct. To push it to 5.0 you simply need to copy the ConfigurationOfXXX to MetaRepoForPharo50... but....be careful as Catalog tool will always load #stable: version....so you must be sure that #stable: works in each of the repos where you publish your conf. > I will be trying to create some Spanish documentation notes on the > grafoscopio fossil wiki[4] on all this community tips and advice while > preparing and making the data week (and after) so it can help another > newbies and learners on Pharo/Smalltalk. > Buenisimo! > > [4] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/ > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 22/02/16 21:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi Offray, > > I don't see the package ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio commited either in MetaRepoForPharo50 > or MetaRepoForPharo40. Did you copy the ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio into > the desired meta repositories? > > Cheers, > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com>offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday >> 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making >> it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and >> published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on >> http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the >> process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA >> >> I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know >> what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation >> being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what >> I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the >> publishing procedure was fine? >> >> In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run >> something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so >> the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? >> >> Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, >> but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better >> (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting >> closer). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them > On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >> >>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Done! >>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Alex >>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>> >>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>> >>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Feb. 23, 2016