December 2016 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Denis, Am 28.12.16 um 11:06 schrieb Denis Kudriashov: > > I think nobody say about "bad idea". We just not understand desired > view. Could you show some screenshots? here's what you see in VA Smalltalk when you open the Hierarchy of OrderedCollection

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-28 11:01 GMT+01:00 jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> : > Not sure if Tim wants that, but at least that is the exact way things are > in VAST. Opening the hierarchy Browser on a class shows the whole tree up > to Object and down the whole subtree. I use this very often and don't > really see why you may think this is a bad idea? In existing code, it can > be extremely important to understand all implementations of a method in the > whole tree. I would guess that this is the second most used Browser in my > workflow, right after the Debugger/Inspector duo. I think nobody say about "bad idea". We just not understand desired view. Could you show some screenshots?

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Am 28.12.16 um 10:08 schrieb Ben Coman: > > > > > Tim, I guess you are wanting to see the hierarchical view of classes > outside the current package, but how high do you want to go? > Eventually you reach Object. So are you expecting to see *every* > class in the hierarchical view? Not sure if Tim wants that, but at least that is the exact way things are in VAST. Opening the hierarchy Browser on a class shows the whole tree up to Object and down the whole subtree. I use this very often and don't really see why you may think this is a bad idea? In existing code, it can be extremely important to understand all implementations of a method in the whole tree. I would guess that this is the second most used Browser in my workflow, right after the Debugger/Inspector duo. Your suggestion (in another post) to use some double-click or twice-click to see the whole hierarchy would be very harmful to my workflow. But as always, that is a question of taste and willingness to adapt new things ;-) Joachim

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> 2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: >>> >>> Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see >>> >>> A >>> +B >>> +C >>> +D >> >> >> In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press >> hier. But I guess there is something else. >> >> Anyway let's try with picture: >> <snip> >> >> RBParseTreeRule subclasses looks like in your example > > > Tim, I guess you are wanting to see the hierarchical view of classes outside > the current package, but how high do you want to go? Eventually you reach > Object. So are you expecting to see *every* class in the hierarchical view? One thing to try that might get you some of what you want, in the Hierachical view, click a superclass at the level you want, then click the <Hier.> button twice. cheers -ben

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > >> Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see >> >> A >> +B >> +C >> +D >> > > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press > hier. But I guess there is something else. > > Anyway let's try with picture: > <snip> > > RBParseTreeRule subclasses looks like in your example > Tim, I guess you are wanting to see the hierarchical view of classes outside the current package, but how high do you want to go? Eventually you reach Object. So are you expecting to see *every* class in the hierarchical view? cheers -ben

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

by Dimitris Chloupis

Done ! :) Î£ÏÎ¹Ï Î¤ÎµÏ, 28 ÎÎµÎº 2016 - 02:54 Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > Slashdot submission > < > https://slashdot.org/submission/6609431/techbeacon-article-is-making-a-brea… > > > > I'm trying to get my TechBeacon article on Slashdot. If I'm successful, > this > could be the BIGGEST win in my Smalltalk campaign, my Battle of Austerlitz > <https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Austerlitz> . > > Please, please, please, upvote the submission. Slashdot has to be convinced > to publish my story and *they look at the number of upvotes*. > > Thanks, > Richard > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Slashdot-Submission-tp4928235.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 28, 2016

Slashdot Submission

by horrido

Slashdot submission <https://slashdot.org/submission/6609431/techbeacon-article-is-making-a-brea…> I'm trying to get my TechBeacon article on Slashdot. If I'm successful, this could be the BIGGEST win in my Smalltalk campaign, my Battle of Austerlitz <https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Austerlitz> . Please, please, please, upvote the submission. Slashdot has to be convinced to publish my story and *they look at the number of upvotes*. Thanks, Richard -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Slashdot-Submission-tp4928235.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see > > A > +B > +C > +D > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press hier. But I guess there is something else. Anyway let's try with picture: â RBParseTreeRule subclasses looks like in your example

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hi Denis - I went to look at an early squeak version and I think I was mistaken, properly drawn hierarchies were in VA and OW Smalltalks as well as Dolphin. Pharo doesn't do this well at all - pressing the hierarchy ,button draws the hierarchy for the selected class only - even though you may be looking at 6 related classes in a package Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see A +B +C +D And not just one of the hierarchies like it does now. Eh if B is selected you just get A + B and don't see the other classes at all. I found it useful in a single browser to visually understand (even if it's crude nesting) the relationships between classes. This greatly helps with refactoring and comprehension. And reduces clicking on everything to build that mental model. How do people figure out relationships in code in Pharo, is there some other tool? Tim Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Dec 2016, at 17:59, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > > 2016-12-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: >> What confuses me, is his I can see the hire hybrid the classes in relation to each other? The hier button just shows the hierarchy of the selected class and not in relation to the others? >> >> I'm sure at some point pharo and squeak let you see the related hierarchies of all the classes in the package didn't it? > > Could you show/describe concrete example? > Because what you describe feels like what we have now: "hierarchically sorted" classes of selected package. But you probably want something else? >

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Japanese Fonts

by tesonep＠gmail.com

Great you can fixed it. Cheers, Pablo. On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, thanks for the reply. > > FreeType disable/reenable seems to have done the trick. It loaded up my > system fonts, and I was able to select Noto Sans CJK JP, which seems to do > the trick. For reference, this is on Pharo 6 #60334. I also installed this > for text entry: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~tomooda/Tekka and it seems to > work like a charm. > > Thanks, > Evan > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Japanese-Fonts- > tp4928056p4928161.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Pablo Tesone. tesonep(a)gmail.com

Dec. 27, 2016