December 2016 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] GitFileTree on Pharo 5.0

by Trussardi Dario Romano

Ciao Ben, > hi Dario, > > Reading back through the thread, it seems it works when you start > Pharo one way, but not another way. > Can you report the VM versions for each way.. > World menu > System > System Reporter > VM GeneralImage In the first case ( from Pharo on desktop ): ----- /Users/dtr/Desktop/Pharo5.0.app/Contents/Resources/Pharo5.0.image Pharo5.0 Latest update: #50763 Unnamed Virtual Machine --------------- /Users/dtr/Desktop/Pharo5.0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 In the second case ( a specific image into package ) Image ----- /Users/dtr/Desktop/Pharo5.0.app/Contents/Resources/Pharo5.0-161205.image Pharo5.0 Latest update: #50763 Unnamed Virtual Machine --------------- /Users/dtr/Desktop/Pharo5.0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 In a new Pharo 5.0 folder ( following Dimitris command : mkdir pharo cd pharo curl get.pharo.org | bash ./pharo-ui Pharo.image ) Image ----- /opt/pharo/Pharo.image Pharo5.0 Latest update: #50764 Unnamed Virtual Machine --------------- /opt/pharo/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString git@github.com:pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 06744effac0f0aa3b4b32e17636448f9d51d6707 Date: 2016-09-30 08:40:43 +0200 By: GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.1880 uuid: 16138eb3-2390-40f5-a6c8-15f0494936f8 Oct 10 2016 > > Is one of those ways you start Pharo is using Pharo Launcher? No, i use Pharo Launcher only for Pharo 4.0. Not for Pharo 5.0 Thanks, Dario > In the settings you can point it to a new VM you download. > > cheers -ben > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5 Dec 2016, at 19:05, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, try this, I think you might be using the wrong VM. >> >> yes :) >> >>> >>>> On 5 Dec 2016, at 18:41, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you go to the applications there is a folder called Utilities and inside it there is a terminal application open it and issue the following commands >>>> >>>> mkdir pharo >>>> cd pharo >>>> curl get.pharo.org | bash >>>> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image >>>> >>>> First command will make folder, second will enter the folder, third will dowload the standard stable version of pharo to the folder, foruth will launch pharo. >>>> >>>> Then when pharo opens follow the instruction Esteban gave you to test that Athens works as it should. Do not install anything before testings. Then if everything works proceed and install one thing, only, then test it, then install the next one etc. >>>> >>>> Moving step by step will help us pin point your problem >>>> >>>> I suspect maybe something went crazy , it happens from time to time in pharo, recently I had a nasty corruption with Pharo 6. If it happens once, its ok , if it happens frequently its a problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:35 PM Trussardi Dario Romano <dario.trussardi(a)tiscali.it> wrote: >>>> Ciao, >>>> >>>>> Pharo is unable to access a library it needs; this is the native boost plugin which is normally bundled with it (and the cairo lib?)... >>>>> >>>>> Guys, anybody with a mac around there? >>>>> >>>>> Thierry >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> thanks Dimitris. >>>> >>>>> Nativeboost has been removed and been replaced by UFFI, all libraries that used Nativeboost are now using UFFI including the Cairo backend library for Athens. >>>> >>>> OK, but what i need to do for load UFFI Cairo library >>>> >>>> and for load the UFFI library required by GitFileTree Pharo support? >>>> >>>> >>>> I wrong to install Pharo 5.0 on my MacBookPro with OS X 10.7.5. ? >>>> >>>> If right remember i install Pharo 5.0 from http://pharo.org/download link >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Dario >>> >>> >> >> >

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugger and stepping over a function that will have a DNU

by Marcus Denker

> On 6 Dec 2016, at 07:10, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> On 5 Dec 2016, at 19:10, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: >> >> >>> On 05 Dec 2016, at 13:03, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> >> Dear Denis, >> >> >>> It was fixed here 16877 and here 19108. (last allows interrupt in such cases) >> >> is this in Pharo5 or will it show up in Pharo5? >> > > These are good candidates for back porting. I will put it on my TODO. I added an issue to not forget: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19424/Backport-Debugger-step-fixes-to-Pha… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19424/Backport-Debugger-step-fixes-to-Pha…> Marcus

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugger and stepping over a function that will have a DNU

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-05 23:10 GMT+01:00 Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de>: > > It was fixed here 16877 and here 19108. (last allows interrupt in such > cases) > > is this in Pharo5 or will it show up in Pharo5? It was fixed only in Pharo 6. it should be mentioned in issue parameters

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Mustache and section

by Damien Pollet

https://github.com/zalando/beard is in Scala :p On 5 December 2016 at 21:54, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You mean that you would like to invent a much better mustache. > We could keep mustache as it is and invent Beard or rouquaflette :) > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> I agree. But there is also a point in sharing mustache templates between >> different runtimes. Altering mustache does not make it very mustache >> anymore. And it will make it slower. I put that on my ever growing list of >> things to do. Maybe a switch could bring the best of both worlds. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 05.12.2016 um 16:24 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com >> >: >> >> having a nicer mustache can be cool :) >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> Ok. I think about that again. It might be a useful thing to have >>> although not supported IMHO by other mustache implementations. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> > Am 04.12.2016 um 18:19 schrieb Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu>: >>> > >>> > Okay. >>> > Indeed, my bypass was to copy the label in the list. >>> > >>> > Thank you for your answer. >>> > >>> > Hilaire >>> > >>> >> Le 04/12/2016 Ã 08:14, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> So far in my attempt the #label tag is not processed. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Am I interpreting something wrongly? >>> >>>> >>> >> No, what you want is not possible. To achieve it you should copy >>> label into the elements of the list section. >>> >> >>> >> Norbert >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Dr. Geo >>> > http://drgeo.eu >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Mustache and section

by Norbert Hartl

I want to keep mustache to work as the other mustache implementations. I agree choosing a different name for an enhanced version would be feasible. That happened in the javascript world several times. One example is handlebars. Much better is not that easy. In most implementations I know better is something like adding poor duplicates of functionalities of your programming language to the template engine. Does not work in the end. So better you need to prove if this one is not good enough. Norbert > Am 06.12.2016 um 03:24 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > You mean that you would like to invent a much better mustache. > We could keep mustache as it is and invent Beard or rouquaflette :) > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> I agree. But there is also a point in sharing mustache templates between different runtimes. Altering mustache does not make it very mustache anymore. And it will make it slower. I put that on my ever growing list of things to do. Maybe a switch could bring the best of both worlds. >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 05.12.2016 um 16:24 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> having a nicer mustache can be cool :) >>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>>> Ok. I think about that again. It might be a useful thing to have although not supported IMHO by other mustache implementations. >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> > Am 04.12.2016 um 18:19 schrieb Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu>: >>>> > >>>> > Okay. >>>> > Indeed, my bypass was to copy the label in the list. >>>> > >>>> > Thank you for your answer. >>>> > >>>> > Hilaire >>>> > >>>> >> Le 04/12/2016 Ã 08:14, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>> So far in my attempt the #label tag is not processed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am I interpreting something wrongly? >>>> >>>> >>>> >> No, what you want is not possible. To achieve it you should copy label into the elements of the list section. >>>> >> >>>> >> Norbert >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Dr. Geo >>>> > http://drgeo.eu >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugger and stepping over a function that will have a DNU

by Marcus Denker

> On 5 Dec 2016, at 19:10, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > > >> On 05 Dec 2016, at 13:03, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > Dear Denis, > > >> It was fixed here 16877 and here 19108. (last allows interrupt in such cases) > > is this in Pharo5 or will it show up in Pharo5? > These are good candidates for back porting. I will put it on my TODO. Marcus

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Execute Tet pdflib

by pauguillot＠girona.com

Works fine but it's a Delay fixed it's not a delay adapted. I wan't to wait until we have the pdfAsText document disponible to read contents. Not wait some constant time Tank you -Pau A 2016-12-06 00:43, Ben Coman escriguÃ©: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:28 AM, <pauguillot(a)girona.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> 1- I need help to extract a selected text from a pdf document. >> Tet pdflib can do that and i need help to execute command line using >> Pharo. >> I am able to do the work using a bat file but i think we can do >> better. > > Someone else will need ot help for that. > >> >> 2- How we can code properly the delay (when we wait the Bat file) > > Can you expand on the problem. > "(Delay forMilliseconds: 500)wait." looks fine to me. > > cheers -ben > > >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> >> https://www.pdflib.com/products/tet/ >> >> |bat pdf stream pdfAsText contents | >> bat := 'C:\some\code.bat'. >> pdf := 'C:\some\document.pdf'. >> stream := bat asFileReference writeStream. >> >> "Console Windows code" >> stream nextPutAll: 'CD "C:\Program Files\PDFlib\TET 5.0 >> 64-bit\bin"'; >> nextPut: Character linefeed; >> nextPutAll: 'TET --samedir --lastpage last-1 --pageopt >> "includebox={ >> {98.38 693.32 253.41 709.91} {522.70 183.66 595 226.30} {416.97 >> 574.79 479 >> 598.03} {401.33 773.91 453 789.55} {294.18 575.74 369.56 598.5} >> {295.6 492.3 >> 373.35 524.43} {150.53 414.55 219.28 438.25} {47.17 494.67 98.85 >> 520.75} >> {112.26 684.01 193.66 698.03} {533.61 212.57 595 620} {100.75 657.29 >> 217.85 >> 673.41}}"'; >> nextPut: Character space; >> nextPutAll: pdf; >> nextPut: Character linefeed; >> nextPutAll: 'EXIT'; >> close. >> OS2Process command: bat. >> >> pdfAsText := String streamContents: [ :s | 1 to: (pdf size - 4) do: [ >> :i | s >> nextPut: (pdf at: i) ]. s nextPutAll: '.txt'; close >> ]."C:\some\document.txt" >> (Delay forMilliseconds: 500)wait. >> contents := pdfAsText asFileReference contents. >> bat asFileReference delete. >> pdfAsText asFileReference delete. >> contents >> >> ================================================================ >> Missatge enviat a travÃ©s del Webmail de Girona.com >> http://www.girona.com >> ================================================================ >> >> ================================================================ Missatge enviat a travÃ©s del Webmail de Girona.com http://www.girona.com ================================================================

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GitFileTree on Pharo 5.0

by Andrew Glynn

I run Pharo 5.0 with no problems on a Macbook Pro, but itâs running OS X v. 10.12.1.Â Any reason your OS is backdated? Andrew Glynn From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> on behalf of Trussardi Dario Romano <dario.trussardi(a)tiscali.it> Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Date: Monday, December 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] GitFileTree on Pharo 5.0 Ciao, Pharo is unable to access a library it needs; this is the native boost plugin which is normally bundled with it (and the cairo lib?)... Guys, anybody with a mac around there? Thierry Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â thanks Dimitris. Nativeboost has been removed and been replaced by UFFI, all libraries that used Nativeboost are now using UFFI including the Cairo backend library for Athens. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â OK, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â but what i need to do for load UFFI Cairo library Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â and for load the UFFI library required by Â Â Â GitFileTree Pharo support? Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I wrong to install Pharo 5.0 on my MacBookPro with OS XÂ 10.7.5. ? Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â If right remember i install Pharo 5.0 fromÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â http://pharo.org/download link Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Thanks. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Dario

Dec. 6, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Execute Tet pdflib

by Ben Coman

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:28 AM, <pauguillot(a)girona.com> wrote: > Hello, > > 1- I need help to extract a selected text from a pdf document. > Tet pdflib can do that and i need help to execute command line using Pharo. > I am able to do the work using a bat file but i think we can do better. Someone else will need ot help for that. > > 2- How we can code properly the delay (when we wait the Bat file) Can you expand on the problem. "(Delay forMilliseconds: 500)wait." looks fine to me. cheers -ben > > Thank you for your help. > > > https://www.pdflib.com/products/tet/ > > |bat pdf stream pdfAsText contents | > bat := 'C:\some\code.bat'. > pdf := 'C:\some\document.pdf'. > stream := bat asFileReference writeStream. > > "Console Windows code" > stream nextPutAll: 'CD "C:\Program Files\PDFlib\TET 5.0 64-bit\bin"'; > nextPut: Character linefeed; > nextPutAll: 'TET --samedir --lastpage last-1 --pageopt "includebox={ > {98.38 693.32 253.41 709.91} {522.70 183.66 595 226.30} {416.97 574.79 479 > 598.03} {401.33 773.91 453 789.55} {294.18 575.74 369.56 598.5} {295.6 492.3 > 373.35 524.43} {150.53 414.55 219.28 438.25} {47.17 494.67 98.85 520.75} > {112.26 684.01 193.66 698.03} {533.61 212.57 595 620} {100.75 657.29 217.85 > 673.41}}"'; > nextPut: Character space; > nextPutAll: pdf; > nextPut: Character linefeed; > nextPutAll: 'EXIT'; > close. > OS2Process command: bat. > > pdfAsText := String streamContents: [ :s | 1 to: (pdf size - 4) do: [ :i | s > nextPut: (pdf at: i) ]. s nextPutAll: '.txt'; close ]. > "C:\some\document.txt" > (Delay forMilliseconds: 500)wait. > contents := pdfAsText asFileReference contents. > bat asFileReference delete. > pdfAsText asFileReference delete. > contents > > ================================================================ > Missatge enviat a travÃ©s del Webmail de Girona.com > http://www.girona.com > ================================================================ > >

Dec. 5, 2016

accessing local/instance variables with metalinks

by Peter Uhnak

Hi, what is the best way to access variables from within a metalink? for example I have a message send `surface clear` and I want to change it to `surface clear: trachelCanvas color`. I can use #instVarNamed: ``` MetaLink new metaObject: [ :object | (object instVarNamed: #surface) clear: (object instVarNamed: #trachelCanvas) color. ]; selector: #value:; arguments: #(object); control: #instead. ``` but the above isn't exactly nice, plus it wouldn't work with temporary variables. Thanks, Peter

Dec. 5, 2016