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October 2016
- 87 participants
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Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by Dimitris Chloupis
I am not offended but my email was offended apparently. It did not allow me
to expand the messages to reply to you , lol.
I guess computers have feelings too.
None has to like my style, obviously. Neither you have to like the end
result. But I would be lying to say that this was created by accident. I
knew from start what I wanted to create and I am proud that I got so far.
Took a lot of effort but it was well worth it.
Tin tin is a fun comic, and that art is very good but its not something
that interests me into making. I am more an Asterix fan. In any case this
kind of style is very far from what I really like , how I think and how I
feel. Minoan art is what it inspires me the most, fully of vibrant colours,
dramatic expression, mysticism and freedom.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/FunkStock-Default/header-Photos/Greece-Photos-Pict…
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:20 PM Damien Pollet <
damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 30 October 2016 at 21:56, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
Philemon is so great and strange :)
I was thinking of him visiting the strange islands of class diagrams and
meeting the reflective bytecode resistance smuggling inline caches there :D
Le 30/10/16 à 21:23, Damien Pollet a écrit :
Somehow this makes me think of the cover of the Tintin album "L'Ãle Noire"
http://www.images-booknode.com/book_cover/265/full/les-aventures-de-tintin-…
Perhaps a similar composition with close/far subjects and clean flat text
would work better⦠as it is now, I find it too dark/dramatic for the
subject matter, and I find the word art floating over water cheesy and
making little sense, sorryâ¦
Another inspiration where the 3D text would work better would be the
Philémon's letters in the Atlantic (it's a surrealist universe where the
letters spelling OCÃAN ATLANTIQUE on a world globe are really letter-shaped
islands) : http://iteror.org/big/img/i/Philemon_leA.jpg
On 30 October 2016 at 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yeap thats the idea, being unique is my goal , though still developing my
style.
I am also not a fan of flat designs , with exceptions those that also carry
a unique style.
ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÏ
Ï, 30 ÎÎºÏ 2016 - 18:49 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï phil(a)highoctane.be <
phil(a)highoctane.be> ÎγÏαÏε:
This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We definitely are not
on the mainstream.
Phil
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
enjoy
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
hi
would it be possible to have
by example in 3d below Pharo?
Stef
Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
I did not want to go with the original design because frankly that is not
my style. I rather have something unique.
Extruding the logo would look very boring and its definitely something I
dont want to do.
I love the original design because it is really suits many scenarios
including icons and because its a good design.
However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be used everywhere, this
is a book cover and plus Stef asked me to use this that I have created in
the past. The original design can continue to be around since it can serve
many other roles.
Python books for example rarely use the python logo, usually they have some
painted snake or even mouse etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
https://goo.gl/b67ETW
Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to make , so its not that
simple for me to start from scratch and have something ready in 1 day. The
only thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d scene as such its
extremely flexible on how I can render this, it can be resized in any way
and change in proportion.
In any case I have zero issues with going with the original cover or a
design not made by gets picked. I made this render because I will use it as
a background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
Nice, but I guess this was originally for something else since its not
in the book form factor which will change your composition. It would
be good to see a sample in book form factor.
Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in the big-O that I guess
it would be good to follow like the other books...
http://files.pharo.org/books/
How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
cheers -ben
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
<kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a cover for PBE5 , so I
> decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo render and enhance it. I
> decided also to release all assets under MIT license as a present to the
> community. The repo can be found here
>
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
>
> latest render can be found here
>
>
https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
>
> this is not final render I have a few thing to improve but it is 90%
there.
>
> Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo By Example 5.0
by stepharo
I'm looking for the
figures/workspaceInspector.png
Because I pulled and I cannot latex anymore.
I'm working on the web site: http://books.pharo.org to get
all the book pdfs in a well defined place (and all the rest).
all the pointer to git hub
all the pointer to the jenkins server.
Stef
Le 29/10/16 à 20:45, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
> I forgot to add that the final render of the book cover can be found here
>
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
>
> have fun :)
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 9:38 PM Dimitris Chloupis
> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> As promised I released PBE5.0 just now, which basically puts a tag
> to our github repository to mark the beginning of version 5 and
> also provided a release in a fork of separate downloads for the
> book and the repository itself which anything that is required to
> build the book.
>
> If you want just to read , downloading the pdf is enough. You can
> get the release from here
>
> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/releases/t…
>
> Unfortunately I was not able to port the Reflection chapter , it
> needs a ton of work , probably a complete rewrite but since its a
> late chapter and we already have achieved a 80% updating I think
> it was the right time now that pharo 7 is starting developing .
>
> Still till PBE6.0 we have a long way to go but I think we can get
> there far easier than we got from PBE1.4 to PBE5.0.
>
> The rest of the details are in the link.
>
> Salute to fellow Guardians of the Light :)
>
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by Damien Pollet
On 30 October 2016 at 21:56, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
> Philemon is so great and strange :)
>
I was thinking of him visiting the strange islands of class diagrams and
meeting the reflective bytecode resistance smuggling inline caches there :D
> Le 30/10/16 à 21:23, Damien Pollet a écrit :
>
> Somehow this makes me think of the cover of the Tintin album "L'Ãle Noire"
> http://www.images-booknode.com/book_cover/265/full/les-
> aventures-de-tintin---l-ile-noire-265103.jpg
>
> Perhaps a similar composition with close/far subjects and clean flat text
> would work better⦠as it is now, I find it too dark/dramatic for the
> subject matter, and I find the word art floating over water cheesy and
> making little sense, sorryâ¦
>
> Another inspiration where the 3D text would work better would be the
> Philémon's letters in the Atlantic (it's a surrealist universe where the
> letters spelling OCÃAN ATLANTIQUE on a world globe are really letter-shaped
> islands) : http://iteror.org/big/img/i/Philemon_leA.jpg
>
> On 30 October 2016 at 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeap thats the idea, being unique is my goal , though still developing my
>> style.
>>
>> I am also not a fan of flat designs , with exceptions those that also
>> carry a unique style.
>>
>> ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÏ
Ï, 30 ÎÎºÏ 2016 - 18:49 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï phil(a)highoctane.be <
>> phil(a)highoctane.be> ÎγÏαÏε:
>>
>>> This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We definitely are
>>> not on the mainstream.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <
>>> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
>>> renders/render-201610301719.jpg
>>>
>>> enjoy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> would it be possible to have
>>>
>>> by example in 3d below Pharo?
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
>>>
>>> I did not want to go with the original design because frankly that is
>>> not my style. I rather have something unique.
>>>
>>> Extruding the logo would look very boring and its definitely something I
>>> dont want to do.
>>>
>>> I love the original design because it is really suits many scenarios
>>> including icons and because its a good design.
>>>
>>> However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be used everywhere,
>>> this is a book cover and plus Stef asked me to use this that I have created
>>> in the past. The original design can continue to be around since it can
>>> serve many other roles.
>>>
>>> Python books for example rarely use the python logo, usually they have
>>> some painted snake or even mouse etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/b67ETW
>>>
>>> Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to make , so its not
>>> that simple for me to start from scratch and have something ready in 1 day.
>>> The only thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
>>>
>>> On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d scene as such its
>>> extremely flexible on how I can render this, it can be resized in any way
>>> and change in proportion.
>>>
>>> In any case I have zero issues with going with the original cover or a
>>> design not made by gets picked. I made this render because I will use it as
>>> a background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice, but I guess this was originally for something else since its not
>>> in the book form factor which will change your composition. It would
>>> be good to see a sample in book form factor.
>>>
>>> Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in the big-O that I guess
>>> it would be good to follow like the other books...
>>> http://files.pharo.org/books/
>>>
>>> How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
>>>
>>> cheers -ben
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
>>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a cover for PBE5 , so I
>>> > decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo render and enhance it. I
>>> > decided also to release all assets under MIT license as a present to
>>> the
>>> > community. The repo can be found here
>>> >
>>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
>>> >
>>> > latest render can be found here
>>> >
>>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
>>> renders/render-201610291523.jpg
>>> >
>>> > this is not final render I have a few thing to improve but it is 90%
>>> there.
>>> >
>>> > Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by stepharo
Philemon is so great and strange :)
Le 30/10/16 à 21:23, Damien Pollet a écrit :
> Somehow this makes me think of the cover of the Tintin album "L'Ãle
> Noire"
> http://www.images-booknode.com/book_cover/265/full/les-aventures-de-tintin-…
>
> Perhaps a similar composition with close/far subjects and clean flat
> text would work better⦠as it is now, I find it too dark/dramatic for
> the subject matter, and I find the word art floating over water cheesy
> and making little sense, sorryâ¦
>
> Another inspiration where the 3D text would work better would be the
> Philémon's letters in the Atlantic (it's a surrealist universe where
> the letters spelling OCÃAN ATLANTIQUE on a world globe are really
> letter-shaped islands) : http://iteror.org/big/img/i/Philemon_leA.jpg
>
> On 30 October 2016 at 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yeap thats the idea, being unique is my goal , though still
> developing my style.
>
> I am also not a fan of flat designs , with exceptions those that
> also carry a unique style.
>
>
> ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÏ
Ï, 30 ÎÎºÏ 2016 - 18:49 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï phil(a)highoctane.be
> <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> <phil(a)highoctane.be
> <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>> ÎγÏαÏε:
>
> This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We
> definitely are not on the mainstream.
>
> Phil
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
>
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
> <https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…>
>
> enjoy
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo
> <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
>
> hi
>
> would it be possible to have
>
> by example in 3d below Pharo?
>
> Stef
>
>
> Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
>> I did not want to go with the original design because
>> frankly that is not my style. I rather have something
>> unique.
>>
>> Extruding the logo would look very boring and its
>> definitely something I dont want to do.
>>
>> I love the original design because it is really suits
>> many scenarios including icons and because its a good
>> design.
>>
>> However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be
>> used everywhere, this is a book cover and plus Stef
>> asked me to use this that I have created in the past.
>> The original design can continue to be around since
>> it can serve many other roles.
>>
>> Python books for example rarely use the python logo,
>> usually they have some painted snake or even mouse
>> etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/b67ETW
>>
>> Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to
>> make , so its not that simple for me to start from
>> scratch and have something ready in 1 day. The only
>> thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
>>
>> On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d
>> scene as such its extremely flexible on how I can
>> render this, it can be resized in any way and change
>> in proportion.
>>
>> In any case I have zero issues with going with the
>> original cover or a design not made by gets picked. I
>> made this render because I will use it as a
>> background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman
>> <btc(a)openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Nice, but I guess this was originally for
>> something else since its not
>> in the book form factor which will change your
>> composition. It would
>> be good to see a sample in book form factor.
>>
>> Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in
>> the big-O that I guess
>> it would be good to follow like the other books...
>> http://files.pharo.org/books/
>>
>> How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
>> <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures>
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
>> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a
>> cover for PBE5 , so I
>> > decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo
>> render and enhance it. I
>> > decided also to release all assets under MIT
>> license as a present to the
>> > community. The repo can be found here
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
>> <https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master>
>> >
>> > latest render can be found here
>> >
>> >
>> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
>> <https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…>
>> >
>> > this is not final render I have a few thing to
>> improve but it is 90% there.
>> >
>> > Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
>>
>
>
>
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by Damien Pollet
Somehow this makes me think of the cover of the Tintin album "L'Ãle Noire"
http://www.images-booknode.com/book_cover/265/full/les-aventures-de-tintin-…
Perhaps a similar composition with close/far subjects and clean flat text
would work better⦠as it is now, I find it too dark/dramatic for the
subject matter, and I find the word art floating over water cheesy and
making little sense, sorryâ¦
Another inspiration where the 3D text would work better would be the
Philémon's letters in the Atlantic (it's a surrealist universe where the
letters spelling OCÃAN ATLANTIQUE on a world globe are really letter-shaped
islands) : http://iteror.org/big/img/i/Philemon_leA.jpg
On 30 October 2016 at 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yeap thats the idea, being unique is my goal , though still developing my
> style.
>
> I am also not a fan of flat designs , with exceptions those that also
> carry a unique style.
>
> ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÏ
Ï, 30 ÎÎºÏ 2016 - 18:49 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï phil(a)highoctane.be <
> phil(a)highoctane.be> ÎγÏαÏε:
>
>> This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We definitely are
>> not on the mainstream.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
>> renders/render-201610301719.jpg
>>
>> enjoy
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>>
>> would it be possible to have
>>
>> by example in 3d below Pharo?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
>>
>> I did not want to go with the original design because frankly that is not
>> my style. I rather have something unique.
>>
>> Extruding the logo would look very boring and its definitely something I
>> dont want to do.
>>
>> I love the original design because it is really suits many scenarios
>> including icons and because its a good design.
>>
>> However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be used everywhere, this
>> is a book cover and plus Stef asked me to use this that I have created in
>> the past. The original design can continue to be around since it can serve
>> many other roles.
>>
>> Python books for example rarely use the python logo, usually they have
>> some painted snake or even mouse etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/b67ETW
>>
>> Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to make , so its not
>> that simple for me to start from scratch and have something ready in 1 day.
>> The only thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
>>
>> On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d scene as such its
>> extremely flexible on how I can render this, it can be resized in any way
>> and change in proportion.
>>
>> In any case I have zero issues with going with the original cover or a
>> design not made by gets picked. I made this render because I will use it as
>> a background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice, but I guess this was originally for something else since its not
>> in the book form factor which will change your composition. It would
>> be good to see a sample in book form factor.
>>
>> Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in the big-O that I guess
>> it would be good to follow like the other books...
>> http://files.pharo.org/books/
>>
>> How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a cover for PBE5 , so I
>> > decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo render and enhance it. I
>> > decided also to release all assets under MIT license as a present to the
>> > community. The repo can be found here
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
>> >
>> > latest render can be found here
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
>> renders/render-201610291523.jpg
>> >
>> > this is not final render I have a few thing to improve but it is 90%
>> there.
>> >
>> > Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
>>
>>
>>
>>
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] [vwnc] small examples to show the tools
by Richard Sargent
For the idea of transferring the code to another image, look at Dale's work
with "server blocks" between Pharo and GemStone/S.
There is also his work which builds on this called Tugrik.
_____
From: Christian <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> Haider
Sent: â2016-â10-â30 00:39
To: vwnc(a)lists.cs.illinois.edu; pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org
Subject: [vwnc] small examples to show the tools
Hi all,
in two weeks, I am going to give a little talk about Smalltalk:
http://metameute.de/nook2016/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__metameute.de_nook2016_&
d=DQMFAw&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=ft-1QIM8cvtSHfdpPsQH-8KWGw6YwOgYlZIk9TUZ
RnI&m=ATNH3e-u6y6KCrcoyYx4sKBiikVF5mDHEi0RAMEeiNA&s=b8Ppz_zDqqrl44tjdZ3i23m9
tPRHClnaFFwfYtdDtmw&e=> .
It is 45 min with students who probably never heard of Smalltalk.
I want to concentrate on the liveliness of the environment with the tools:
Workspace, Inspector, Browser and Debugger.
For this, I need a simple but nice example.
I will use VisualWorks 8.2 and Mirko, a new Smalltalk lover, will use Pharo
5.
We want to have the computers connected, maybe also a Pi, to show the
platform independence of the image concept.
The first idea was a chat client. A client and a server in one image. Then
in two images on one machine, on two machines (also the Pi), maybe in two
dialects (VW, Pharo).
Possible to transfer code (blocks) across images (that should blow their
minds J).
This is cool, but I am not sure if this is not too much and distracting with
other technologies.
Another is to read a csv file or web service and parse it into objects. With
the right kind of cool data it is fun to mold these objects for the tools.
This not so sexy, but easy to do from scratch. Unfortunately, the different
computers would not play a role.
As you see, I am a bit lost and wanted to ask you guys for ideas.
Happy hacking,
Christian
P.S. Here in Lübeck, a town in northern Germany, the attitude towards
Smalltalk is generally positive, interested and curious. Maybe it is time
for a Smalltalk renaissance?
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by Dimitris Chloupis
Yeap thats the idea, being unique is my goal , though still developing my
style.
I am also not a fan of flat designs , with exceptions those that also carry
a unique style.
ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÏ
Ï, 30 ÎÎºÏ 2016 - 18:49 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï phil(a)highoctane.be <
phil(a)highoctane.be> ÎγÏαÏε:
> This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We definitely are not
> on the mainstream.
>
> Phil
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
>
>
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
>
> enjoy
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
>
> hi
>
> would it be possible to have
>
> by example in 3d below Pharo?
>
> Stef
>
> Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
>
> I did not want to go with the original design because frankly that is not
> my style. I rather have something unique.
>
> Extruding the logo would look very boring and its definitely something I
> dont want to do.
>
> I love the original design because it is really suits many scenarios
> including icons and because its a good design.
>
> However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be used everywhere, this
> is a book cover and plus Stef asked me to use this that I have created in
> the past. The original design can continue to be around since it can serve
> many other roles.
>
> Python books for example rarely use the python logo, usually they have
> some painted snake or even mouse etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
>
> https://goo.gl/b67ETW
>
> Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to make , so its not
> that simple for me to start from scratch and have something ready in 1 day.
> The only thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
>
> On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d scene as such its
> extremely flexible on how I can render this, it can be resized in any way
> and change in proportion.
>
> In any case I have zero issues with going with the original cover or a
> design not made by gets picked. I made this render because I will use it as
> a background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
>
> Nice, but I guess this was originally for something else since its not
> in the book form factor which will change your composition. It would
> be good to see a sample in book form factor.
>
> Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in the big-O that I guess
> it would be good to follow like the other books...
> http://files.pharo.org/books/
>
> How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
>
> cheers -ben
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a cover for PBE5 , so I
> > decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo render and enhance it. I
> > decided also to release all assets under MIT license as a present to the
> > community. The repo can be found here
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
> >
> > latest render can be found here
> >
> >
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/renders/render-…
> >
> > this is not final render I have a few thing to improve but it is 90%
> there.
> >
> > Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
>
>
>
>
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] Cover for PBE5
by phil@highoctane.be
This skeuomorphic render in an age of flat design... We definitely are not
on the mainstream.
Phil
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> as you ordered , I throw in also a Seagull as a bonus :D
>
> https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
> renders/render-201610301719.jpg
>
> enjoy
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> would it be possible to have
>>
>> by example in 3d below Pharo?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> Le 29/10/16 à 16:27, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
>>
>> I did not want to go with the original design because frankly that is not
>> my style. I rather have something unique.
>>
>> Extruding the logo would look very boring and its definitely something I
>> dont want to do.
>>
>> I love the original design because it is really suits many scenarios
>> including icons and because its a good design.
>>
>> However here we dont talk about a simple logo to be used everywhere, this
>> is a book cover and plus Stef asked me to use this that I have created in
>> the past. The original design can continue to be around since it can serve
>> many other roles.
>>
>> Python books for example rarely use the python logo, usually they have
>> some painted snake or even mouse etc. By rarely I mean extremely rarely.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/b67ETW
>>
>> Another reason is that 3d graphics are quite hard to make , so its not
>> that simple for me to start from scratch and have something ready in 1 day.
>> The only thing I can do is tweak this to make it slightly better.
>>
>> On a question of form, its not a problem this is a 3d scene as such its
>> extremely flexible on how I can render this, it can be resized in any way
>> and change in proportion.
>>
>> In any case I have zero issues with going with the original cover or a
>> design not made by gets picked. I made this render because I will use it as
>> a background to my blog anyway so it wont go to waste.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice, but I guess this was originally for something else since its not
>> in the book form factor which will change your composition. It would
>> be good to see a sample in book form factor.
>>
>> Also Pharo has its brand with the lighthouse in the big-O that I guess
>> it would be good to follow like the other books...
>> http://files.pharo.org/books/
>>
>> How would it look to extrude logo.svg from here...?
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-flyers/tree/master/figures
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So Stef reminded me that we are going to need a cover for PBE5 , so I
>> > decided to revive my now 2 year old pharo logo render and enhance it. I
>> > decided also to release all assets under MIT license as a present to the
>> > community. The repo can be found here
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/tree/master
>> >
>> > latest render can be found here
>> >
>> > https://gitlab.com/Kilon/pbe5-cover/raw/master/Pharo%20demo/
>> renders/render-201610291523.jpg
>> >
>> > this is not final render I have a few thing to improve but it is 90%
>> there.
>> >
>> > Hope you like, I leave the final decision on Stef.
>>
>>
>>
Oct. 30, 2016
[ANN] Image saver with time tag
by phil@highoctane.be
I like to save images with a time tag and got tired of typing in the save
window.
So, there is HOImageSaver.
https://github.com/Pharophile/HOImageSaver
It works with Pharo 5.
Load as follows:
Metacello new
githubUser: 'pharophile'
project: 'HOSImageSaver'
commitish: 'master'
path: 'packages';
baseline: 'HOImageSaver';
onWarningLog;
load
Phil
Oct. 30, 2016
Re: [Pharo-users] small examples to show the tools
by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Christian,
I would try also a not so tight schedule for 45 minutes. At our local
hackerspace we have regular workshops/hackathons using Pharo and
Roassal. Our approach is described here:
[1]
https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/about-alternate-ways-to-teach-…
So, going to the basics of the syntax and the using it to build a simple
app like the Cinemania app using OMDB is good for such short time. I
will be updating soon some screenshots for the procedure and notes taken
in a Grafoscopio notebook [2] for our ongoing Data Week seven this and
next weekends.
[2] http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html
Cheers,
Offray
On 30/10/16 02:39, Christian Haider wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> in two weeks, I am going to give a little talk about Smalltalk:
> http://metameute.de/nook2016/ .
>
> It is 45 min with students who probably never heard of Smalltalk.
>
> I want to concentrate on the liveliness of the environment with the
> tools: Workspace, Inspector, Browser and Debugger.
>
> For this, I need a simple but nice example.
>
> I will use VisualWorks 8.2 and Mirko, a new Smalltalk lover, will use
> Pharo 5.
>
> We want to have the computers connected, maybe also a Pi, to show the
> platform independence of the image concept.
>
> The first idea was a chat client. A client and a server in one image.
> Then in two images on one machine, on two machines (also the Pi),
> maybe in two dialects (VW, Pharo).
>
> Possible to transfer code (blocks) across images (that should blow
> their minds J).
>
> This is cool, but I am not sure if this is not too much and
> distracting with other technologies.
>
> Another is to read a csv file or web service and parse it into
> objects. With the right kind of cool data it is fun to mold these
> objects for the tools.
>
> This not so sexy, but easy to do from scratch. Unfortunately, the
> different computers would not play a role.
>
> As you see, I am a bit lost and wanted to ask you guys for ideas.
>
> Happy hacking,
>
> Christian
>
> P.S. Here in Lübeck, a town in northern Germany, the attitude towards
> Smalltalk is generally positive, interested and curious. Maybe it is
> time for a Smalltalk renaissance?
>
Oct. 30, 2016