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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Esteban Lorenzano

main purposes of pharodocs were: 1) make pharo code to appear in the indexes 2) make newcomers (who are used to javadocs and lots of stuff we do not need) feel more confortable, until they realise is actually not needed :P Esteban > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things. > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: > Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. > > Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names. > > <PastedGraphic-1.png> > > > Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦ > > > <PastedGraphic-2.png> > > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. >> >> >> What happens if you click on one link ? >> For example, if I click on the >> arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text >> >> " >> Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a backspace. >> >> <>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. >> >> <>Just for ANSI Compliance >> >> <> <>Added the rest of them! >> >> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a carriage return. >> >> <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. >> >> <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing enter. >> >> <>Answer the ASCII ESC character >> >> <>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 >> >> <> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues." >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( >> > >> Esteban >> > >> <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> > >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> > >>> > There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/> >>> > >>> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general. >>> > >>> > Please push this, this is really important. >>> > >>> >>> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >>> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> >>> >>> 165 Avenue Bretagne >>> Lille 59000 France >>> >>

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Johan Fabry

I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it? It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden. > On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things. > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: > Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. > > Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names. > > <PastedGraphic-1.png> > > > Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦ > > > <PastedGraphic-2.png> > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Dimitris Chloupis

yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net> wrote: > Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. > > Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method > names. > > [image: PastedGraphic-1.png] > > > Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually > interesting waysâ¦ > > > [image: PastedGraphic-2.png] > > > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. >> > > > What happens if you click on one link ? > For example, if I click on the > arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text > > " > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing a backspace. > > Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. > > Just for ANSI Compliance > > Added the rest of them! > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing a carriage return. > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for > x=10, $Z for x=35. > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing enter. > > Answer the ASCII ESC character > > The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a > official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 > > Create the table of DigitsValues." > > > > > > I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( >> >> Esteban >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> >> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions >> for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of >> many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar >> and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to >> Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed >> and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very >> easy to keep up with pharo releases. >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril < >> cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> > >>> > There is books.pharo.org >>> > >>> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should >>> **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general. >>> > >>> > Please push this, this is really important. >>> > >>> >>> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >>> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu >>> >>> 165 Avenue Bretagne >>> Lille 59000 France >>> >>> >>

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] I am David Allouche, let me introduce myself.

by Hilaire

Le 10/01/2016 22:37, David Allouche a Ã©crit : > Hello folks. > > Some people have already seen me on Twitter and Slack, but I believe > there might be some people on the mailing list that did not see those > conversations. > Salut David, C'est cool de te voir ici ! If you are looking for something stimulating your mind, you are at the right place :) As Doru suggeted, pick up a small project of yours or a task and try it Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeahâ¦ something is bad, but it shouldnât :) pharodocs are statically generated when we release (it takes some time to build it). That could mean is broken since some months (and just now we realised :( ) but well, as I sayâ¦ I will check itâ¦ eventually :) Esteban > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:18, David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net> wrote: > > Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. > > Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names. > > <PastedGraphic-1.png> > > > Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦ > > > <PastedGraphic-2.png> > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. >> >> >> What happens if you click on one link ? >> For example, if I click on the >> arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text >> >> " >> Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a backspace. >> >> <>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. >> >> <>Just for ANSI Compliance >> >> <> <>Added the rest of them! >> >> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a carriage return. >> >> <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. >> >> <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing enter. >> >> <>Answer the ASCII ESC character >> >> <>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 >> >> <> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( >> >> Esteban >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> >> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> > >>> > There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/> >>> > >>> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general. >>> > >>> > Please push this, this is really important. >>> > >>> >>> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >>> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> >>> >>> 165 Avenue Bretagne >>> Lille 59000 France >>> >> >> >

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:12, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. >> >> >> What happens if you click on one link ? > > for me, works (on Safari) No, apart from the ugly layout at the top (hierarchy mixed with class comment), the main problem is that the method (selector) names are missing at the lower part, which is very confusing. All probably CSS glitches. Where is the project located that generates the web docs ? The problems are browser independent. >> For example, if I click on the >> arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text >> >> " >> Answer the Character representing a backspace. >> >> Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. >> >> Just for ANSI Compliance >> >> Added the rest of them! >> >> Answer the Character representing a carriage return. >> >> Answer the Character whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. >> >> Answer the Character representing enter. >> >> Answer the ASCII ESC character >> >> The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 >> >> Create the table of DigitsValues." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( >> >> Esteban >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> >> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> > >>> > There is books.pharo.org >>> > >>> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general. >>> > >>> > Please push this, this is really important. >>> > >>> >>> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >>> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu >>> >>> 165 Avenue Bretagne >>> Lille 59000 France >>> >> >> >

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by David Allouche

Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names. Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦ > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. > > > What happens if you click on one link ? > For example, if I click on the > arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text > > " > Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a backspace. > > <>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. > > <>Just for ANSI Compliance > > <> <>Added the rest of them! > > <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a carriage return. > > <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. > > <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing enter. > > <>Answer the ASCII ESC character > > <>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 > > <> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues." > > > > > > > I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( > > Esteban > > <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> > >> > There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/> >> > >> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general. >> > >> > Please push this, this is really important. >> > >> >> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> >> >> 165 Avenue Bretagne >> Lille 59000 France >> > >

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Dimitris Chloupis

if i click on a class, displays nothing i have to also click on the method so i assume this is broken on firefox On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:14 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. >> > > > What happens if you click on one link ? > > > for me, works (on Safari) > > For example, if I click on the > arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text > > " > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing a backspace. > > Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. > > Just for ANSI Compliance > > Added the rest of them! > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing a carriage return. > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for > x=10, $Z for x=35. > > Answer the Character > <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> > representing enter. > > Answer the ASCII ESC character > > The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a > official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 > > Create the table of DigitsValues." > > > > > > I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( >> >> Esteban >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> >> > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions >> for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of >> many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar >> and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to >> Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed >> and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very >> easy to keep up with pharo releases. >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril < >> cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> > >>> > There is books.pharo.org >>> > >>> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should >>> **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general. >>> > >>> > Please push this, this is really important. >>> > >>> >>> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >>> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu >>> >>> 165 Avenue Bretagne >>> Lille 59000 France >>> >>> >>

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > well, pharodocs look fine for meâ¦ but can be broken in other sources. > > > What happens if you click on one link ? for me, works (on Safari) > For example, if I click on the > arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text > > " > Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a backspace. > > <>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. > > <>Just for ANSI Compliance > > <> <>Added the rest of them! > > <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing a carriage return. > > <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. > > <> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.h…> representing enter. > > <>Answer the ASCII ESC character > > <>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 > > <> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues." > > > > > > > I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( > > Esteban > > <Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png> > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> > >> > There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/> >> > >> > PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general. >> > >> > Please push this, this is really important. >> > >> >> UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user >> that the content may evolve it should be fine. >> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> >> >> 165 Avenue Bretagne >> Lille 59000 France >> > >

Jan. 11, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] happy lessons from recent talks

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Doru, Thanks for your email. Indeed, it is great that you share your experience! Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I just wanted to share with you a bit of a different perspective on what we do around here. > > Over the past half a year I gave several talks to some 1k technical people at industrial events like ArchConf, NDC Oslo and several others. The tour will continue this year at OOP, ArchConf and a couple of other places. These are places where people talk about mainstream techniques & technologies (like Java, JS, C#). For example, ArchConf is a premier software architecture conference in the US. > > During these sessions, people get to experience Moose and Pharo through live demos. I use these demos as examples of how humane assessment (building your own analysis tools) can boost engineering decisions making in practice. > > I consistently receive the feedback that the live programming possibilities from Pharo/Moose are impressive. But, more recently, there is something else worthy of being noted. If in previous years, nobody heard about what we do, this year I started to get consistently a couple of persons in the room that have heard something about Pharo/Moose before the presentation. > > This is huge. While a couple might not sound like much, you should remember that information (especially in this technical space) has the capability of spreading exponentially. What we have done over the past years starts to show results. We have to keep it up. > > Happy New Year! > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Problem solving should be focused on describing > the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." > > > > > >

Jan. 11, 2016