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Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Ben Coman

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can indeed interpret My Cases as "assigned to me" but my first thought > was when I saw "My Cases" is to assume that is the cases i opened. > > In any case I created my own custom filter with openedBy:me and saved it as > "My Opened Cases" and I also used the Henrik suggestion to subscribe to all > relevant opened and closed case I am interested for. So hopefully this is > the end of my frustration though I am sure I will find something to complain > about :D > > So yes fogbuz is not that bad once you figure out how it works, but is > confusing for newcomers to say the least. This impedance mismatch is because its a professional tool designed for commercial in-house bug tracking, where users have no access to it. So the "my" is "my cases" is always a developer working on someone else's bug. In our case there is little distinction between our users and our developers. For this reason, Fogbugz doesn't always exactly match our needs, but I think it is sufficient, and we are lucky to have the free access to it that we have. It would be a big job moving, which we should delay as long as reasonably possible. cheers -ben > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:01 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> 2016-01-17 11:43 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> Ok let me explain >>> >>> if you go to My Cases it has already setup a filter for you that shows >>> issues assigned to you, the problem is that when you open a bug report it is >>> not assigned to you, it actually assigned to our lovely victim , Esteban and >>> anyone else that cares to set the report assigned to him so even if you add >>> additional filter like opened by you or edited by you it will show you zero >>> result if you have not been assigned any of those issues which will be the >>> case. >> >> >> Yes it is confusing but not wrong. You can interpret "My Cases" as >> "assigned to me". >> >>> >>> >>> Instead you need to change the existing filter to assigned to Everybody >>> so it included all bug reports and then you can add the filters you >>> mentioned and yes then it will work. >> >> >> You can define you own filters, like >> openedBy:me status:open >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:39 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> 2016-01-17 11:32 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open >>>>> Cases. Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but >>>>> also cases you have commented on >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, that is why I showed you the filter >>>> editedBy:theKilon >>>> instead of >>>> alsoEditedBy: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D >>>>> >>>>> And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a >>>>> catch , you have to change assigned to Everybody >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't understand this one. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> so lets all sing >>>>> >>>>> WTF dancing in the rain >>>>> WTF dancing in the rain .... >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah >>>>>>> lets get to 2 big issues >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! >>>>>>> Who else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , >>>>>>> actually it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >>>>>> >>>>>> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >>>>>> >>>>>> editedBy:theKilon >>>>>> or >>>>>> openedBy:theKilon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>>>>>> integration, thats why !

Jan. 17, 2016

Better version of the counter exercise...

by stepharo

Here is a better version of the counter exercise for the mooc. Stef

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 new vm crash on window resize

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-17 11:23 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > I have seen this already. I avoid the problem by not resizing the window > while saving with Monticello. > > Hope it helps > Did not happen yet to me on windows. What platform and VM-Version do you use? > > Alexandre > > > > Le 16 janv. 2016 Ã 12:50, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> a Ã©crit : > > > > Hi all, > > > > this just happened to me: I opened a new image (todayâs build), resized > it and the VM segfaulted. I am on MacOS. crash.dmp is in attachment. I have > been unable to reproduce, sadly. Is this a known issue or should I add a > new bug report ? > > > > > > <crash.dmp> > > > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - > University of Chile > > > >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Dimitris Chloupis

You can indeed interpret My Cases as "assigned to me" but my first thought was when I saw "My Cases" is to assume that is the cases i opened. In any case I created my own custom filter with openedBy:me and saved it as "My Opened Cases" and I also used the Henrik suggestion to subscribe to all relevant opened and closed case I am interested for. So hopefully this is the end of my frustration though I am sure I will find something to complain about :D So yes fogbuz is not that bad once you figure out how it works, but is confusing for newcomers to say the least. On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:01 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-01-17 11:43 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >> Ok let me explain >> >> if you go to My Cases it has already setup a filter for you that shows >> issues assigned to you, the problem is that when you open a bug report it >> is not assigned to you, it actually assigned to our lovely victim , Esteban >> and anyone else that cares to set the report assigned to him so even if you >> add additional filter like opened by you or edited by you it will show you >> zero result if you have not been assigned any of those issues which will be >> the case. >> > > Yes it is confusing but not wrong. You can interpret "My Cases" as > "assigned to me". > > >> >> Instead you need to change the existing filter to assigned to Everybody >> so it included all bug reports and then you can add the filters you >> mentioned and yes then it will work. >> > > You can define you own filters, like > openedBy:me status:open > > >> >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:39 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 2016-01-17 11:32 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open >>>> Cases. Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but >>>> also cases you have commented on >>>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, that is why I showed you the filter >>> editedBy:theKilon >>> instead of >>> alsoEditedBy: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D >>>> >>>> And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a >>>> catch , you have to change assigned to Everybody >>>> >>> >>> I don't understand this one. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> so lets all sing >>>> >>>> WTF dancing in the rain >>>> WTF dancing in the rain .... >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah >>>>>> lets get to 2 big issues >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! >>>>>> Who else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , >>>>>> actually it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >>>>> >>>>> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >>>>> >>>>> editedBy:theKilon >>>>> or >>>>> openedBy:theKilon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>>>>> integration, thats why ! >>>>>> >>>>>

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-17 11:43 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > Ok let me explain > > if you go to My Cases it has already setup a filter for you that shows > issues assigned to you, the problem is that when you open a bug report it > is not assigned to you, it actually assigned to our lovely victim , Esteban > and anyone else that cares to set the report assigned to him so even if you > add additional filter like opened by you or edited by you it will show you > zero result if you have not been assigned any of those issues which will be > the case. > Yes it is confusing but not wrong. You can interpret "My Cases" as "assigned to me". > > Instead you need to change the existing filter to assigned to Everybody so > it included all bug reports and then you can add the filters you mentioned > and yes then it will work. > You can define you own filters, like openedBy:me status:open > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:39 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 2016-01-17 11:32 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open >>> Cases. Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but >>> also cases you have commented on >>> >> >> >> Yes, that is why I showed you the filter >> editedBy:theKilon >> instead of >> alsoEditedBy: >> >> >> >>> >>> Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D >>> >>> And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a >>> catch , you have to change assigned to Everybody >>> >> >> I don't understand this one. >> >> >> >>> >>> so lets all sing >>> >>> WTF dancing in the rain >>> WTF dancing in the rain .... >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>>>> >>>>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets >>>>> get to 2 big issues >>>>> >>>>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! >>>>> Who else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>>>> >>>>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , >>>>> actually it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >>>> >>>> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >>>> >>>> editedBy:theKilon >>>> or >>>> openedBy:theKilon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>>>> integration, thats why ! >>>>> >>>>

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Dimitris Chloupis

Ok let me explain if you go to My Cases it has already setup a filter for you that shows issues assigned to you, the problem is that when you open a bug report it is not assigned to you, it actually assigned to our lovely victim , Esteban and anyone else that cares to set the report assigned to him so even if you add additional filter like opened by you or edited by you it will show you zero result if you have not been assigned any of those issues which will be the case. Instead you need to change the existing filter to assigned to Everybody so it included all bug reports and then you can add the filters you mentioned and yes then it will work. On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:39 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2016-01-17 11:32 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >> Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open >> Cases. Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but >> also cases you have commented on >> > > > Yes, that is why I showed you the filter > editedBy:theKilon > instead of > alsoEditedBy: > > > >> >> Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D >> >> And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a >> catch , you have to change assigned to Everybody >> > > I don't understand this one. > > > >> >> so lets all sing >> >> WTF dancing in the rain >> WTF dancing in the rain .... >> >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>>> >>>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets >>>> get to 2 big issues >>>> >>>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! >>>> Who else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>>> >>>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , >>>> actually it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>>> >>> >>> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >>> >>> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >>> >>> editedBy:theKilon >>> or >>> openedBy:theKilon >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>>> integration, thats why ! >>>> >>>

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-17 11:32 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open Cases. > Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but also > cases you have commented on > Yes, that is why I showed you the filter editedBy:theKilon instead of alsoEditedBy: > > Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D > > And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a catch > , you have to change assigned to Everybody > I don't understand this one. > > so lets all sing > > WTF dancing in the rain > WTF dancing in the rain .... > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>> >>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets >>> get to 2 big issues >>> >>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! Who >>> else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>> >>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , actually >>> it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>> >> >> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >> >> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >> >> editedBy:theKilon >> or >> openedBy:theKilon >> >> >> >>> >>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>> integration, thats why ! >>> >>

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Dimitris Chloupis

Thanks Henrik I assumed that something like this existed, but I did not search for it. I was merely noticing pitfalls of the system that will confuse a newcomer. On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:32 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open Cases. > Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but also > cases you have commented on > > Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D > > And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a catch > , you have to change assigned to Everybody > > so lets all sing > > WTF dancing in the rain > WTF dancing in the rain .... > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >>> >>> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets >>> get to 2 big issues >>> >>> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! Who >>> else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >>> >>> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , actually >>> it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >>> >> >> Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". >> >> Instaed, you can filter all cases by >> >> editedBy:theKilon >> or >> openedBy:theKilon >> >> >> >>> >>> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >>> integration, thats why ! >>> >>

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Dimitris Chloupis

Or the alternative is just go down, down , down the list to My Open Cases. Which by the way it does not just show the cases opened by you but also cases you have commented on Welcome to the land of endless WTF :D And by the way your solution does not work either because there is a catch , you have to change assigned to Everybody so lets all sing WTF dancing in the rain WTF dancing in the rain .... On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >> Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. >> >> I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets >> get to 2 big issues >> >> 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! Who >> else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? >> >> 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , actually >> it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 >> > > Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". > > Instaed, you can filter all cases by > > editedBy:theKilon > or > openedBy:theKilon > > > >> >> And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github >> integration, thats why ! >> >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues

by Henrik Nergaard

In the top right corner of Fogbugz there is a menu which has an entry called âsubscriptionsâ here you can configure what you want to be automatically subscribed to. See attachment. Best regards, Henrik From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Nicolai Hess Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:25 AM To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Fogbuz issues 2016-01-17 11:00 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com<mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>>: Since I am on a complaining spree lately let me complain once more. I really dont like Fogbuz and in order not to bore with blah blah lets get to 2 big issues 1) If you open a bug report it does not subscribe you to it, WTF !!! Who else could be more interested in my bug report than I ? 2) If I go to My Cases its shows none of the reports I opened , actually it shows nothing, none, zero , empty space WTF^2 Yes this is confusing, "My Cases" only shows issues "assigned to you". Instaed, you can filter all cases by editedBy:theKilon or openedBy:theKilon And people then wonder why on earth I keep pushing for github integration, thats why !

Jan. 17, 2016