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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Norbert Hartl

Hi Thierry, > Am 25.01.2016 um 21:36 schrieb Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Norbert, > > Le 25/01/2016 21:17, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >> Hi Thierry, >> >>> Am 25.01.2016 um 20:45 schrieb Thierry Goubier >>> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> Le 25/01/2016 20:01, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name >>>>> <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>>: >>>>> >>>>> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to >>>>> be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to >>>>> find but nothing actual. >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it >>>>> only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository >>>>> in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as >>>>> having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for >>>>> dependent projects. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date >>>>> documentation? >>>>> >>>> My own insights so far when using git: >>>> >>>> - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you >>>> cannot use Versionner anymore >>> >>> You can use ConfigurationOf. BaselineOf is only there to help. >>> >> Ok, good to know. >> >>>> - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use >>>> bitbucket:// repositories >>> >>> This should be an issue for Pharo. >>> >>>> - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. >>>> I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on >>>> the code >>> >>> Metacello github:// and bitbucket:// urls are only for read-only access >>> to the packages (distribution). >>> >>> Metacello install the contents of the zip into a path composed of >>> github-cache (or bitbucket-cache I guess), the repository name, person >>> name, commit id or version as a filetree repository. You can add that >>> repository as a filetree repository inside Monticello if you want. But >>> it is read-only. >>> >> That is ok if you produce a deployment artefact, e.g. with jenkins. But >> there is either a bitbucket:// _or_ a gitfiletree:// url in the baseline. >> >>> Download locally is done by either a git clone on the command line or by >>> a GitFileTree remote repository addition. >>> >>>> - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems >>>> not to be possible >>> >>> It is: url format is >>> [github|gitfiletree|bitbucket]://.../repo:commit/sub-directory. >> >> It works without sub-directory. With it throws an error >> >> 'Git error: Cloning into ''st''... >> conq: invalid command syntax. >> fatal: Could not read from remote repository. >> >> Please make sure you have the correct access rights >> and the repository exists. > > Oh, I see. You're using the stable version of GitFileTree in Pharo4, isn't it? > Yes. > I haven't pushed the changes for the url syntax in that version. So the old syntax becomes: > > gitfiletree://example.com/path/to/repo?dir=sub-directory&branch=commit > Does not work for me. Same error. > My problem is that the new url syntax is in the same package as the metadata-less mode of GitFileTree, and that mode supposes a fix to FileTree (a single method!). Maybe I'll switch the Pharo4 development version to not create metadata-less repositories. > >>> It is also allways possible to reopen a filetree or a gitfiletree repo >>> on a sub-directory of the main repository... this is how FileTree itself >>> is tested for integration. >>> >>>> - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private >>>> repo on bitbucket >>> >>> If you have a ssh key, then GitFileTree will pick it up for you. >>> >> Yes, that is my preferred way, too. > > Well, that one really had to work :) > It is a good approach. I guess the pharo code uses the library and the library uses ssh. And ssh inquires ssh-agent. Exactly as it should IMHO. >>>> My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you >>>> have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. >>>> If any of those is different it won't work. Right? >>> >>> No, it works and has been working for git access to private >>> repositories, bitbucket included, for years... at least on Linux ;) >>> >> Ok, thanks, if the sub-directory stuff would work it would be ok to jump >> in. Maybe there is a way to tweak the url in the baseline. It would >> remove the need to install gitfiletree in a deployment artefact. We'll see. > > In a deployment artefact, then it becomes a bit different because your repo is then public. > Why so? Because specifying the credentials is not possible? > What I did for a Pharo4 deployment was to write a context dependent Makefile which uses filetree if I'm dealing with an archive of my artefact, and gitfiletree if it is build from a development repo. > To me it boils down to what you can utilize in jenkins. >> Thanks again, > > You're welcome. I'll update GitFileTree for Pharo4 soon and recommend that you use the development version. > Good to hear. I'll test the development version then. thanks, Norbert

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Norbert, the latest development version of GitFileTree for Pharo4 has the new url syntax and does not create metadata-less repositories by default. Thierry

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Norbert, Le 25/01/2016 21:17, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : > Hi Thierry, > >> Am 25.01.2016 um 20:45 schrieb Thierry Goubier >> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>>: >> >> Hi Norbert, >> >> Le 25/01/2016 20:01, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name >>>> <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>>: >>>> >>>> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to >>>> be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to >>>> find but nothing actual. >>>> >>>> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it >>>> only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository >>>> in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as >>>> having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for >>>> dependent projects. >>>> >>>> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date >>>> documentation? >>>> >>> My own insights so far when using git: >>> >>> - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you >>> cannot use Versionner anymore >> >> You can use ConfigurationOf. BaselineOf is only there to help. >> > Ok, good to know. > >>> - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use >>> bitbucket:// repositories >> >> This should be an issue for Pharo. >> >>> - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. >>> I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on >>> the code >> >> Metacello github:// and bitbucket:// urls are only for read-only access >> to the packages (distribution). >> >> Metacello install the contents of the zip into a path composed of >> github-cache (or bitbucket-cache I guess), the repository name, person >> name, commit id or version as a filetree repository. You can add that >> repository as a filetree repository inside Monticello if you want. But >> it is read-only. >> > That is ok if you produce a deployment artefact, e.g. with jenkins. But > there is either a bitbucket:// _or_ a gitfiletree:// url in the baseline. > >> Download locally is done by either a git clone on the command line or by >> a GitFileTree remote repository addition. >> >>> - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems >>> not to be possible >> >> It is: url format is >> [github|gitfiletree|bitbucket]://.../repo:commit/sub-directory. > > It works without sub-directory. With it throws an error > > 'Git error: Cloning into ''st''... > conq: invalid command syntax. > fatal: Could not read from remote repository. > > Please make sure you have the correct access rights > and the repository exists. Oh, I see. You're using the stable version of GitFileTree in Pharo4, isn't it? I haven't pushed the changes for the url syntax in that version. So the old syntax becomes: gitfiletree://example.com/path/to/repo?dir=sub-directory&branch=commit My problem is that the new url syntax is in the same package as the metadata-less mode of GitFileTree, and that mode supposes a fix to FileTree (a single method!). Maybe I'll switch the Pharo4 development version to not create metadata-less repositories. >> It is also allways possible to reopen a filetree or a gitfiletree repo >> on a sub-directory of the main repository... this is how FileTree itself >> is tested for integration. >> >>> - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private >>> repo on bitbucket >> >> If you have a ssh key, then GitFileTree will pick it up for you. >> > Yes, that is my preferred way, too. Well, that one really had to work :) >>> My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you >>> have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. >>> If any of those is different it won't work. Right? >> >> No, it works and has been working for git access to private >> repositories, bitbucket included, for years... at least on Linux ;) >> > Ok, thanks, if the sub-directory stuff would work it would be ok to jump > in. Maybe there is a way to tweak the url in the baseline. It would > remove the need to install gitfiletree in a deployment artefact. We'll see. In a deployment artefact, then it becomes a bit different because your repo is then public. What I did for a Pharo4 deployment was to write a context dependent Makefile which uses filetree if I'm dealing with an archive of my artefact, and gitfiletree if it is build from a development repo. > Thanks again, You're welcome. I'll update GitFileTree for Pharo4 soon and recommend that you use the development version. Thierry > Norbert > >

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Norbert Hartl

Hi Thierry, > Am 25.01.2016 um 20:45 schrieb Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Norbert, > > Le 25/01/2016 20:01, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >> >>> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>> >>> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to >>> be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to >>> find but nothing actual. >>> >>> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it >>> only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository >>> in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as >>> having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for >>> dependent projects. >>> >>> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date >>> documentation? >>> >> My own insights so far when using git: >> >> - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you >> cannot use Versionner anymore > > You can use ConfigurationOf. BaselineOf is only there to help. > Ok, good to know. >> - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use >> bitbucket:// repositories > > This should be an issue for Pharo. > >> - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. >> I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on >> the code > > Metacello github:// and bitbucket:// urls are only for read-only access > to the packages (distribution). > > Metacello install the contents of the zip into a path composed of > github-cache (or bitbucket-cache I guess), the repository name, person > name, commit id or version as a filetree repository. You can add that > repository as a filetree repository inside Monticello if you want. But > it is read-only. > That is ok if you produce a deployment artefact, e.g. with jenkins. But there is either a bitbucket:// _or_ a gitfiletree:// url in the baseline. > Download locally is done by either a git clone on the command line or by > a GitFileTree remote repository addition. > >> - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems >> not to be possible > > It is: url format is > [github|gitfiletree|bitbucket]://.../repo:commit/sub-directory. It works without sub-directory. With it throws an error 'Git error: Cloning into ''st''... conq: invalid command syntax. fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists. ' > > It is also allways possible to reopen a filetree or a gitfiletree repo > on a sub-directory of the main repository... this is how FileTree itself > is tested for integration. > >> - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private >> repo on bitbucket > > If you have a ssh key, then GitFileTree will pick it up for you. > Yes, that is my preferred way, too. >> My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you >> have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. >> If any of those is different it won't work. Right? > > No, it works and has been working for git access to private repositories, bitbucket included, for years... at least on Linux ;) > Ok, thanks, if the sub-directory stuff would work it would be ok to jump in. Maybe there is a way to tweak the url in the baseline. It would remove the need to install gitfiletree in a deployment artefact. We'll see. Thanks again, Norbert

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 25 Jan 2016, at 20:45, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Norbert, > > Le 25/01/2016 20:01, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : >> >>> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >>> >>> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to >>> be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to >>> find but nothing actual. >>> >>> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it >>> only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository >>> in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as >>> having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for >>> dependent projects. >>> >>> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date >>> documentation? >>> >> My own insights so far when using git: >> >> - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you >> cannot use Versionner anymore > > You can use ConfigurationOf. BaselineOf is only there to help. â¦ but is better to use it :) and yes, versionner needs to be adapted. > >> - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use >> bitbucket:// repositories > > This should be an issue for Pharo. not anymore, Pharo5 is updated. cheers! Esteban > >> - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. >> I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on >> the code > > Metacello github:// and bitbucket:// urls are only for read-only access > to the packages (distribution). > > Metacello install the contents of the zip into a path composed of > github-cache (or bitbucket-cache I guess), the repository name, person > name, commit id or version as a filetree repository. You can add that > repository as a filetree repository inside Monticello if you want. But > it is read-only. > > Download locally is done by either a git clone on the command line or by > a GitFileTree remote repository addition. > >> - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems >> not to be possible > > It is: url format is > [github|gitfiletree|bitbucket]://.../repo:commit/sub-directory. > > It is also allways possible to reopen a filetree or a gitfiletree repo > on a sub-directory of the main repository... this is how FileTree itself > is tested for integration. > >> - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private >> repo on bitbucket > > If you have a ssh key, then GitFileTree will pick it up for you. > >> My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you >> have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. >> If any of those is different it won't work. Right? > > No, it works and has been working for git access to private repositories, bitbucket included, for years... at least on Linux ;) > > Thierry > >> Norbert

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Norbert, Le 25/01/2016 20:01, Norbert Hartl a Ã©crit : > >> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> >> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to >> be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to >> find but nothing actual. >> >> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it >> only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository >> in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as >> having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for >> dependent projects. >> >> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date >> documentation? >> > My own insights so far when using git: > > - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you > cannot use Versionner anymore You can use ConfigurationOf. BaselineOf is only there to help. > - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use > bitbucket:// repositories This should be an issue for Pharo. > - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. > I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on > the code Metacello github:// and bitbucket:// urls are only for read-only access to the packages (distribution). Metacello install the contents of the zip into a path composed of github-cache (or bitbucket-cache I guess), the repository name, person name, commit id or version as a filetree repository. You can add that repository as a filetree repository inside Monticello if you want. But it is read-only. Download locally is done by either a git clone on the command line or by a GitFileTree remote repository addition. > - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems > not to be possible It is: url format is [github|gitfiletree|bitbucket]://.../repo:commit/sub-directory. It is also allways possible to reopen a filetree or a gitfiletree repo on a sub-directory of the main repository... this is how FileTree itself is tested for integration. > - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private > repo on bitbucket If you have a ssh key, then GitFileTree will pick it up for you. > My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you > have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. > If any of those is different it won't work. Right? No, it works and has been working for git access to private repositories, bitbucket included, for years... at least on Linux ;) Thierry > Norbert > > > > > >

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 25.01.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to find but nothing actual. > > I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for dependent projects. > > Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date documentation? > My own insights so far when using git: - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you cannot use Versionner anymore - I need to load metacello-work from github in order to use bitbucket:// repositories - Metacello downloads a zip file from the repository to install code. I have no glue how I can download things locally in order to work on the code - Specifying a path to access a sub-directory of the repository seems not to be possible - I don't know where to specify credentials because I have a private repo on bitbucket My conclusion is that if you don't want to use versionner and you have public projects on github using that stuff might seem feasible. If any of those is different it won't work. Right? Norbert

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Norbert Hartl

Thanks Esteban, in the tutorial there is a mentioning that one can use bitbucket as well. When I try using a bitbucket url for a repository I get an ZnUnknownScheme error. Is there any prerequisite for using different schemes. I loaded newest zinc http without success. thanks, Norbert > Am 25.01.2016 um 18:14 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Norbert, > > I think this article by Yuriy describes pretty fine how to work with Baselines, Configurations and GitHub. > > http://blog.yuriy.tymch.uk/2015/07/pharo-and-github-versioning-revision-2.h… <http://blog.yuriy.tymch.uk/2015/07/pharo-and-github-versioning-revision-2.h…> > > cheers! > Esteban > > ps: In fact, I would like to include it as âofficial documentationâ :P > >> On 25 Jan 2016, at 18:09, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: >> >> I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to find but nothing actual. >> >> I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for dependent projects. >> >> Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date documentation? >> >> thanks, >> >> Norbert >

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Serge Stinckwich

Maybe you can contribute to: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/PharoBookWorkInProgre… and there are new chapters: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/PharoBookWorkInProgre… On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to find but nothing actual. > > I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for dependent projects. > > Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date documentation? > > thanks, > > Norbert -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git workflow

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Norbert, I think this article by Yuriy describes pretty fine how to work with Baselines, Configurations and GitHub. http://blog.yuriy.tymch.uk/2015/07/pharo-and-github-versioning-revision-2.h… <http://blog.yuriy.tymch.uk/2015/07/pharo-and-github-versioning-revision-2.h…> cheers! Esteban ps: In fact, I would like to include it as âofficial documentationâ :P > On 25 Jan 2016, at 18:09, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > I'm eager to try a new project with some git repositories. But to be honest I don't really get it. Searching the web there is lots to find but nothing actual. > > I don't understand if it is ok to use a ConfigurationOf or if it only works with a BaselineOf. And how do you specify the repository in a ConfigurationOf in order to be able to work locally as well as having jenkins pull everything automatically? Same goes for dependent projects. > > Are there any insights to this or pointers to an up-to-date documentation? > > thanks, > > Norbert

Jan. 25, 2016