January 2016 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Franck Warlouzet

For my case, windows 10, latest I assume. Installed on the desktop (in several directories, I'm organized). Do you think it could be an admin rights issue if it is installed in protected directories in Justine's case ? Franck > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > From: stephan(a)stack.nl > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:27:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows > > On 31-01-16 18:55, Franck Warlouzet wrote: > > I tried to help Justine a bit, but I have the same OS, the same VM, the > > same image, the same sources and it works for me but not for her, > > Which OS & update version, in what directories is it installed? > > Stephan > >

Jan. 31, 2016

[Updated Pharo by Example] SUnit chapter ready for reviews....

by stepharo

Hi all yet another chapter ready for reviews. Special tx to Werner. I took all your feedback into account for the previous chapters. Stef

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Stephan Eggermont

On 31-01-16 18:55, Franck Warlouzet wrote: > I tried to help Justine a bit, but I have the same OS, the same VM, the > same image, the same sources and it works for me but not for her, Which OS & update version, in what directories is it installed? Stephan

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 31/01/2016 19:38, Franck Warlouzet a Ã©crit : > No because I don't have any error, but maybe Justine does. We should > check (even I don't ever use command line on windows, so maybe I will > not be able to do it) > > Franck Super + R then type cmd and press enter Then you can drag and drop the Pharo.exe, let a space, drag and drop the XXX.image. If there is a problem you should have an error in the terminal or in a window. -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Franck Warlouzet

No because I don't have any error, but maybe Justine does. We should check (even I don't ever use command line on windows, so maybe I will not be able to do it) Franck > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > From: cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:00:16 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows > > > > On 31/01/2016 18:55, Franck Warlouzet wrote: > > I tried to help Justine a bit, but I have the same OS, the same VM, the > > same image, the same sources and it works for me but not for her, I just > > don't get why. It was working with the pre-spur VM + pharo 5 with the > > same configuration for both her and I, now it is not working anymore. I > > miss something probably obvious too, > > > > Franck > > > > Do you get some info if you try to launch it via commad line? An error > maybe? > > -- > Cyril >

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 31/01/2016 18:55, Franck Warlouzet wrote: > I tried to help Justine a bit, but I have the same OS, the same VM, the > same image, the same sources and it works for me but not for her, I just > don't get why. It was working with the pre-spur VM + pharo 5 with the > same configuration for both her and I, now it is not working anymore. I > miss something probably obvious too, > > Franck > Do you get some info if you try to launch it via commad line? An error maybe? -- Cyril

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Franck Warlouzet

I tried to help Justine a bit, but I have the same OS, the same VM, the same image, the same sources and it works for me but not for her, I just don't get why. It was working with the pre-spur VM + pharo 5 with the same configuration for both her and I, now it is not working anymore. I miss something probably obvious too, Franck > From: alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:00:36 -0800 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows > CC: akevalion(a)gmail.com > > Milton also cannot open a Pharo 5 image with Spur. There is nothing obvious we missed. > > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 30, 2016, at 12:14 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > > > On 28-01-16 15:45, Justine STIENNE wrote: > >> I always have the same problem. When I want to open the image, Pharo is > >> loading but it never becomes opened. > > > > Did you manage to get it to work? > > > > The new spur vm cannot open old images, and the old vm cannot open the new images. Though you could change the image format from old to new, it normally is a better idea to just load your code into a fresh image. Another thing is that you also need the sources file. > > > > Stephan > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem to open Pharo 50 on Windows

by Alexandre Bergel

Milton also cannot open a Pharo 5 image with Spur. There is nothing obvious we missed. Alexandre > On Jan 30, 2016, at 12:14 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > On 28-01-16 15:45, Justine STIENNE wrote: >> I always have the same problem. When I want to open the image, Pharo is >> loading but it never becomes opened. > > Did you manage to get it to work? > > The new spur vm cannot open old images, and the old vm cannot open the new images. Though you could change the image format from old to new, it normally is a better idea to just load your code into a fresh image. Another thing is that you also need the sources file. > > Stephan > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Windows headless and service

by Robert Kuszinger

Torsten, thanks. Ok, I'll test it. Idon't mind I need SRVANY or other solution on win to start it. It is not necessary to provide a well formed service. I'm stopped at the headless running at all. I'Ll check the headless CogVM. Once it runs headless I'll be able to launch it at machine start. I'll share my results here. best regards Robert Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> ezt Ãrta (idÅpont: 2016. jan. 31., V, 1:31): > Running as Windows Service was possible back in Squeak VM days where > Andreas Raab implemented registration into SCM (Service Control Manager). > Code should be in Pharo VM too. > > See also http://forum.world.st/headless-CogVM-on-Windows-td4648336.html > > Possibly the "-service" may be broken/may not be recognized in Pharo Win VM > anymore, havent checked. > > Bye > T. > >

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Some Spotter Questions

by Tudor Girba

Hi, > On Jan 28, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Doru, > >> On 27 Jan 2016, at 17:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I managed to add a spotter extension and preview, but I still have some questions. >> >> Thank you! Can you describe the extension? > > Not yet, but soon ;-) Ok, great :). >>> Is there some global top level overview documentation about writing Spotter extensions ? >> >> Only some blog posts: >> https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=site:humane-assessment… > > I found that, I also used Torsten's article: > > https://medium.com/concerning-pharo/multiple-desktops-for-pharo-5cbc46f3179f > > which is using GT tools in a nice/cool way. > > Still, it is not enough. Agreed. >> Writing a help is in progress. It would be very useful to drive it through your questions. >> >> >>> Is the only way to add a 'global/first' search extension by adding a method to class GTSpotter itself ? >> >> Yes. >> >> >>> I don't see any other package do that (in a modular way), it feels a bit wrong compared to how modular the GT inspector is. >> >> It is exactly the same design as the inspector. Every step in Spotter has an object as an input (like the inspector), and the first object when opening Spotter is an instance of GTSpotter. > > It just felt strange to be the first to add an extension there. We were also thinking of adding an extra discovery mechanism for any class with a special pragma, but at the moment it worked fine like this. >>> Is there a way to reuse a GT inspector view as a preview ? I tried that but it did not work, but what I copied over was 99% identical. >> >> Not yet. The problem is the missing 1% :) > > Duplicating the functionality like we have to do today should ideally be avoided (see my example at the end). Of course :). The problem is that Spotter is built on another infrastructure than the Inspector. We will consolidate both in one in the future. >>> Can you have tabs (multiple pages) in the preview ? >> >> Not for now. At the moment, you can have multiple previews, and only the first one will be displayed. > > OK > >>> Is it possible to control on what tab an inspector opens when a matching item is clicked (like to maintain the same view as the preview) ? >> >> No. >> >> >>> What are some best practices for the order, exact matches, fast searching, etc â¦ ? >> >> Not much. The best practice is to simply watch the usage, and try to accommodate the best way :). > > It is very cool to be able to inspect the pragma and browse each usage as source code ! :). Actually, I use this as an example for people that do not use Pharo. Annotations are incredibly wide-spread today, and no IDE has a first-class search for annotations. Funny, no? >>> Is it possible to search in multiple ways (multiple properties), not just collection -> itemName -> GTFilterSubstring ? (Say I want to search all fields of an address object). >> >> Of course. Take a look at the GTFilter hierarchy, and you can just write your own. >> >> >>> Searching for Color by name, or by RGB and other representations would seem like a good tutorial example (for me). >> >> I am not sure I understand, but it sounds intriguing and I am looking for a case that we can use for a tutorial. Could you elaborate? Perhaps we can write this together. > > GTSpotter>>#spotterForColorFor: aStep > <spotterOrder: 20> > aStep listProcessor > title: 'Color'; > allCandidates: [ Color brickColorRegistry values ]; > itemName: [ :each | each name ]; > filter: GTFilterSubstring; > wantsToDisplayOnEmptyQuery: false > > Color>>#spotterPreviewColorIn: aComposite > <spotterPreview: 0> > aComposite custom: (BorderedMorph new color: self) > > This works fine. Nice idea. This could work well. Now, to be able to cover all Spotter functionality, we would also need to find a way to have a meaningful processor when diving in a Color object. Any idea? How about, searching for similar colors? > Just for fun, I would also like to be able to search using CSS style color specs, like FFF or C0C0C0 (3 or 6 hex digits for RGB). How would that fit in ? There is #asHexString, but I would like a bit more control and intelligence from my part: I want to write the test and there would only be one answer. That is even cooler. This would exemplify how to build a custom filter. Cheers, Doru > Sven > >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> Thx, >>> >>> Sven >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Don't give to get. Just give." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Every thing should have the right to be different."

Jan. 31, 2016