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Re: [Pharo-users] Download only metainfo about mcz when selected

by Thierry Goubier

Le 1 aoÃ»t 2015 11:39 AM, "Peter UhnÃ¡k" <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > You can also right click on the package in Monticello Browser (in the left pane), and then select "View History". Hi Peter, this requires loading the mcz, and it doesn't gives you the repository contents, but the current package version history. > I wonder why this is not available directly from MCFileRepositoryInspector... It could easily be (I believe it is) since selecting a mcz in the inspector loads it with its history (except with gitfiletree). Thierry > Peter > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Jan BlizniÄenko <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: >> >> Thank you, then it seems fastest way is looking at repository web pages (for >> example http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ObjectProfile/Roassal2/commits ). >> >> Jan >> >> >> Thierry Goubier wrote >> > Hi Jan, >> > >> > It is not possible with the mcz format, because you have to open the zip >> > file to recover the metadata. >> > >> > Given the formats used, to just read the last commit message, you will >> > read >> > the entire history instead of just the last one. >> > >> > Thierry >> > >> > 2015-07-16 15:09 GMT+02:00 Jan BlizniÄenko < >> >> > bliznjan@.cvut >> >> > >: >> > >> >> Hello >> >> >> >> Lots of times I want to take a quick look at what is new in external >> >> packages I use, therefore I open repository in monticello, click at mcz >> >> and >> >> look at commit note. However, most of the times I want just to look at >> >> it, >> >> the commit time, author and note, not load whole mcz with its content. >> >> >> >> I would like to ask whether it is possible to change way of loading mcz >> >> in >> >> way that it would download only these metaatributes of mcz when browsing >> >> them (when I select mcz in list of all mcz of package) and download whole >> >> mcz only when I do load/change/merge etc. >> >> >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> View this message in context: >> >> http://forum.world.st/Download-only-metainfo-about-mcz-when-selected-tp4837… >> >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Download-only-metainfo-about-mcz-when-selected-tp4837… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Create maps from an SVG file in Roassal

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

Okidoki ! I've found the option to explicitly include the "lineto" in Inkscape (see the attached screenshot of the Preferences). thanks! On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is Athens-SVG btw (not loaded by default in Pharo, but available in > Athens repository). > I think Stef mentioned it several times in regards to RTSVGPath. > > Peter > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi FranÃ§ois, >> >> I don't think it's worth fixing in the current implementation, >> however there is already available SVG importer into Pharo, so I'll try >> to find a way how to adapt it. It should support regular SVG (circle, >> rectangle, ...), not just path. >> >> Peter >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:42 PM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < >> tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Flanders geography looks way too complicated for a sane brain :p >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> You mean, letâs ditch Wallonia, right? >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 18:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Let's ditch Flanders altogether! >>>> On 31 Jul 2015 23:17, "Johan Fabry" <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey, what happened to Voeren? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voeren >>>>> Thatâs part of Limburg which is also not on the map. Thatâs already 2 parts >>>>> of Flanders left out. This is grounds for an âaffaire communautaireâ to >>>>> happen soon! :-P >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 17:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany < >>>>> tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You're right Baarle-Hertog neighbourhood are not in the SVG file :( >>>>> It should'nt be a problem to express their position in SVG. Have a >>>>> look at the Comines-Warneton 'which is part of Hainaut) stuck between >>>>> France and West-Flanders ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, you forgot Baarle-Hertog â¦ >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Hertog Or maybe thatâs even too >>>>>> complicated a situation for SVG to handle :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>> >>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - >>>>> University of Chile >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - >>>> University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Create maps from an SVG file in Roassal

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

This is Athens-SVG btw (not loaded by default in Pharo, but available in Athens repository). I think Stef mentioned it several times in regards to RTSVGPath. Peter On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi FranÃ§ois, > > I don't think it's worth fixing in the current implementation, > however there is already available SVG importer into Pharo, so I'll try to > find a way how to adapt it. It should support regular SVG (circle, > rectangle, ...), not just path. > > Peter > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:42 PM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < > tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Flanders geography looks way too complicated for a sane brain :p >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> You mean, letâs ditch Wallonia, right? >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 18:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Let's ditch Flanders altogether! >>> On 31 Jul 2015 23:17, "Johan Fabry" <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hey, what happened to Voeren? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voeren >>>> Thatâs part of Limburg which is also not on the map. Thatâs already 2 parts >>>> of Flanders left out. This is grounds for an âaffaire communautaireâ to >>>> happen soon! :-P >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 17:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You're right Baarle-Hertog neighbourhood are not in the SVG file :( >>>> It should'nt be a problem to express their position in SVG. Have a look >>>> at the Comines-Warneton 'which is part of Hainaut) stuck between France and >>>> West-Flanders ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey, you forgot Baarle-Hertog â¦ >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Hertog Or maybe thatâs even too >>>>> complicated a situation for SVG to handle :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - >>>> University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - >>> University of Chile >>> >>> >> >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Create maps from an SVG file in Roassal

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi FranÃ§ois, I don't think it's worth fixing in the current implementation, however there is already available SVG importer into Pharo, so I'll try to find a way how to adapt it. It should support regular SVG (circle, rectangle, ...), not just path. Peter On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:42 PM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Flanders geography looks way too complicated for a sane brain :p > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > wrote: > >> >> You mean, letâs ditch Wallonia, right? >> >> On Jul 31, 2015, at 18:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Let's ditch Flanders altogether! >> On 31 Jul 2015 23:17, "Johan Fabry" <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey, what happened to Voeren? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voeren >>> Thatâs part of Limburg which is also not on the map. Thatâs already 2 parts >>> of Flanders left out. This is grounds for an âaffaire communautaireâ to >>> happen soon! :-P >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 17:28, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> You're right Baarle-Hertog neighbourhood are not in the SVG file :( >>> It should'nt be a problem to express their position in SVG. Have a look >>> at the Comines-Warneton 'which is part of Hainaut) stuck between France and >>> West-Flanders ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hey, you forgot Baarle-Hertog â¦ >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Hertog Or maybe thatâs even too >>>> complicated a situation for SVG to handle :-) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - >>> University of Chile >>> >>> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University >> of Chile >> >> >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Download only metainfo about mcz when selected

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

You can also right click on the package in Monticello Browser (in the left pane), and then select "View History". I wonder why this is not available directly from MCFileRepositoryInspector... Peter On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Jan BlizniÄenko <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > Thank you, then it seems fastest way is looking at repository web pages > (for > example http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ObjectProfile/Roassal2/commits ). > > Jan > > > Thierry Goubier wrote > > Hi Jan, > > > > It is not possible with the mcz format, because you have to open the zip > > file to recover the metadata. > > > > Given the formats used, to just read the last commit message, you will > > read > > the entire history instead of just the last one. > > > > Thierry > > > > 2015-07-16 15:09 GMT+02:00 Jan BlizniÄenko < > > > bliznjan@.cvut > > > >: > > > >> Hello > >> > >> Lots of times I want to take a quick look at what is new in external > >> packages I use, therefore I open repository in monticello, click at mcz > >> and > >> look at commit note. However, most of the times I want just to look at > >> it, > >> the commit time, author and note, not load whole mcz with its content. > >> > >> I would like to ask whether it is possible to change way of loading mcz > >> in > >> way that it would download only these metaatributes of mcz when browsing > >> them (when I select mcz in list of all mcz of package) and download > whole > >> mcz only when I do load/change/merge etc. > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://forum.world.st/Download-only-metainfo-about-mcz-when-selected-tp4837… > >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Download-only-metainfo-about-mcz-when-selected-tp4837… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] VM Crash after adding ram

by stepharo

Thanks for the info. I hope you are going well :) Le 1/8/15 02:03, Ramon Leon a Ã©crit : > On 07/30/2015 11:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> Hi, >> >> did you try a fresh Pharo image (without loaded code)? ExternalObject >> and ExternalAddress are FFI soâ¦ problem*could* be thereâ¦ no idea what >> can be happening, but wellâ¦ it could be there:) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban > > After poking around the net a bit with some of the error messages I saw > > Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 610: _dl_open: Assertion > `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! > > it was apparently some corrupted Ubuntu lib's that after running > updates again and rebooting seem to have repaired themselves. The VM > starting working fine after this last reboot which is admittedly the > first reboot since I got the PC back up with the new amount of ram. > So, apparently not a VM issue, thanks for the advice anyway. >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] VM Crash after adding ram

by Nicolai Hess

Thanks for the info. Am 01.08.2015 2:03 vorm. schrieb "Ramon Leon" <ramon.leon(a)allresnet.com>: > On 07/30/2015 11:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> did you try a fresh Pharo image (without loaded code)? ExternalObject and >> ExternalAddress are FFI soâ¦ problem*could* be thereâ¦ no idea what can be >> happening, but wellâ¦ it could be there:) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> > > After poking around the net a bit with some of the error messages I saw > > Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 610: _dl_open: Assertion > `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! > > it was apparently some corrupted Ubuntu lib's that after running updates > again and rebooting seem to have repaired themselves. The VM starting > working fine after this last reboot which is admittedly the first reboot > since I got the PC back up with the new amount of ram. So, apparently not a > VM issue, thanks for the advice anyway. > > -- > Ramon Leon > > >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on 64bit Ubuntu

by Ð®ÑÐ¸Ð¹ ÐÐ¸ÑÐ¾Ð½ÐµÐ½ÐºÐ¾

I just had all sort of the troubles trying to install Pharo on Ubuntu 14.04 x64. I followed different routes and (sub)sets of instructions, but always come to either crashing or freezing. And then, next day, everything just started to work normally. So, I conclude, that *REBOOT is necessary at some (final) stage* (which is not obvious thing in Linux world). I will try to make some experimentation to understand the correct way - and then I'll ask somebody to update Pharo installation instructions. 2015-07-14 15:35 GMT+03:00 Leo Noordhuizen <leo.noordhuizen(a)gmail.com>: > Markus, > > If you read the messages in this thread, you can see that it has been more > or less solved. > > 'More or less' because Pharo runs fine now, but when I reboot Ubuntu I get > a systemerror with as subject Pharo-vm. > This has been probably caused by my different attempts to make this work > (with different methods) which may have left some 'rubble' causing this. > > I should probably re-install Ubuntu soon. Which I do now and then anyway. > > Thanks, kind regards, Leo Noordhuizen > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Markus Fritsche <mfritsche(a)reauktion.de> > wrote: > >> Hello Leo, >> >> sorry, I was unavailable. >> >> I personally am running 14.04 due to LTS status, but will see if I can >> recreate your error. >> >> Kind regards, >> Markus >> >> >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Linux Install -- problems, but eventually successful

by Ð®ÑÐ¸Ð¹ ÐÐ¸ÑÐ¾Ð½ÐµÐ½ÐºÐ¾

I just had all sort of the troubles trying to install Pharo on Ubuntu 14.04 x64. I followed different routes and (sub)sets of instructions, but always come to either crashing or freezing. And then, next day, everything just started to work normally. So, I conclude, that *REBOOT is necessary at some (final) stage* (which is not obvious thing in Linux world). Trouble is I don't know at which stage, and which combination of actions gives me working environment. Maybe I need to make some experimentation to make this clear, but trouble I don't know how to set my system to "fresh" condition, except of re-installing it. 2015-07-27 20:02 GMT+03:00 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Andy Jones wrote > > since the instructions at > > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup seem to be > out > > of date... > > Note that there is no ia32-libs package on Jessie, as far as I can tell. > > The instructions, under "Ubuntu 14.04 and Later", link to > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#ubuntu-ppa-headless-vm , which > advises: > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pharo/stable > sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install pharo-vm-core > > Did you try that? > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Linux-Install-problems-but-eventually-successful-tp48… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Aug. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] VM Crash after adding ram

by Ramon Leon

On 07/30/2015 11:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > did you try a fresh Pharo image (without loaded code)? ExternalObject and ExternalAddress are FFI soâ¦ problem*could* be thereâ¦ no idea what can be happening, but wellâ¦ it could be there:) > > cheers, > Esteban After poking around the net a bit with some of the error messages I saw Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 610: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! it was apparently some corrupted Ubuntu lib's that after running updates again and rebooting seem to have repaired themselves. The VM starting working fine after this last reboot which is admittedly the first reboot since I got the PC back up with the new amount of ram. So, apparently not a VM issue, thanks for the advice anyway. -- Ramon Leon

Aug. 1, 2015