August 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Basic Woden Loading tutorial

by Hilaire

Le 07/08/2015 23:14, Ronie Salgado a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I started writing a basic woden loading tutorial: http://woden.ronie.cl/ > > Please, bear in mind that this is an early draft, so expect lot of > mistakes. > > Greetings, > Ronie Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

Aug. 11, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange

by Juraj Kubelka

Hi Offray, good point! I will keep in mind. Cheers, Juraj > On Aug 10, 2015, at 19:10, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Hi Juraj, > > Coloring is a default on etherpad. Because we're sharing a physical space, color let us to find who wrote what to see who is giving advice or is needing help. So yes, is important because it let us learn better. > > ChÃ©vere que entiendas espaÃ±ol :-) > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 08/08/15 20:33, Juraj Kubelka wrote: >> Hi Offray, >> >> interesting use case. I can see that Etherpad uses colors to emphasize author of each line (character). Is it important? Why? >> >> (I understand Spanish.) >> >> Cheers, >> Juraj >> >>> 8. 8. 2015 v 19:44, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: >>> >>> Hi Juraj, >>> >>> At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu <http://ws.stfx.eu/>. This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an improvement would be having something like "ethepads" inside the Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: >>> >>> http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home <http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home> >>> >>> (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds is understandable). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Offray >>> >>> On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. >>>> >>>> What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? >>>> I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Juraj >>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s <https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s> ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. >>>>> >>>>> If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ <http://ws.stfx.eu/> (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter <http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU>http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU <http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU> ). >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink <sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>> >>>>> thank you! I will check it out. >>>>> I'll have such situation more and more often. >>>>> I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink <sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? >>>>> Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Juraj, Coloring is a default on etherpad. Because we're sharing a physical space, color let us to find who wrote what to see who is giving advice or is needing help. So yes, is important because it let us learn better. ChÃ©vere que entiendas espaÃ±ol :-) Cheers, Offray On 08/08/15 20:33, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Hi Offray, > > interesting use case. I can see that Etherpad uses colors to emphasize > author of each line (character). Is it important? Why? > > (I understand Spanish.) > > Cheers, > Juraj > >> 8. 8. 2015 v 19:44, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net >> <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: >> >> Hi Juraj, >> >> At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting >> user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. >> For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where >> we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu. >> This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an >> improvement would be having something like "ethepads" inside the >> Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and >> scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: >> >> http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home >> >> (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds >> is understandable). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> It is great that people are interested in sharing information >>> between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a >>> new solution. >>> >>> What is the most urgent information you want to share between >>> images? Source code? >>> I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information >>> between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between >>> co-workers? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Juraj >>> >>>> On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( >>>> https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, >>>> I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could >>>> serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. >>>> >>>> If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ >>>> (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link >>>> through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into >>>> GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open >>>> playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter >>>> http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink >>>> <sheidev(a)yahoo.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Sven, >>>> >>>> thank you! I will check it out. >>>> I'll have such situation more and more often. >>>> I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some >>>> addons >>>> >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>> On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink >>>> <sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is there a in-image monticello server available that >>>> would mimic a repository server? >>>> >>>> Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant >>>> as an example, but it works. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugging announcements

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

I remembered reading this some time ago http://www.humane-assessment.com/stories/rogue-announcements/ Maybe it will be of help. Peter On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > to me this is a problem to debug and identify all these event system based > on registration. > > Le 10/8/15 16:30, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > > How are Announcements currently debugged? I vaguely remember I was >> once able to use AnnouncementSpy [1], but that seems not in Pharo5 >> anymore. Anyway, I'd rather avoid having to hunt within existing for >> a particular announcer to observe. What I'd really like is something >> like... >> >> RubTextAcceptRequest spy >> >> ...to be able to observe anySuchAnnouncement in anyAnnouncer. >> >> [1] >> http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/LanguageAndLibraries/announcements/ann… >> >> cheers -ben >> >> >> > >

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugging announcements

by stepharo

to me this is a problem to debug and identify all these event system based on registration. Le 10/8/15 16:30, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > How are Announcements currently debugged? I vaguely remember I was > once able to use AnnouncementSpy [1], but that seems not in Pharo5 > anymore. Anyway, I'd rather avoid having to hunt within existing for > a particular announcer to observe. What I'd really like is something > like... > > RubTextAcceptRequest spy > > ...to be able to observe anySuchAnnouncement in anyAnnouncer. > > [1] http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/LanguageAndLibraries/announcements/ann… > > cheers -ben > >

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] System Windows not closing on using #close

by Jigyasa Grover

*Steps to reproduce:* 1. Open a fresh image 2. Load Configuration : World > Tools > Configuration Browser > sQuick_new 3. Do It "IndexInterface open" in playground The box (ImageMorph) is aligned to the left in its window, I would like it to be center aligned. /Kindly look into the issue on github (LINK: https://github.com/jig08/sQuick_new/issues/19)/ Help appreciated Thanks -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/System-Windows-not-closing-on-using-close-tp4841568p4… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Accepting Email Drops on Pharo Window

by Ben Coman

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Does anyone have experience with accepting drops of file types which are not > supported by default? On StackOverflow [1], it was shown how to do this in > Cocoa: > ``` > [window registerForDraggedTypes:[NSArray > arrayWithObjects:(NSString*)kPasteboardTypeFileURLPromise,nil]]; > ``` > but do I really need to modify the VM? It seems like, since Smalltalk is so > malleable, and more like an OS than an app, we should accept all types and > let the user decide whether to do something with them, no? > > [1] > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4115987/how-to-get-dropped-mail-message-… > That sounds right. Bring up a dialog reporting "Unknown paste type" with a button to view raw and/or start decoding it from within the debugger. cheers -ben

Aug. 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Debugging announcements

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

You can inspect Announcer and then there's "Announcements" tab, however I don't think there's unified view. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > How are Announcements currently debugged? I vaguely remember I was > once able to use AnnouncementSpy [1], but that seems not in Pharo5 > anymore. Anyway, I'd rather avoid having to hunt within existing for > a particular announcer to observe. What I'd really like is something > like... > > RubTextAcceptRequest spy > > ...to be able to observe anySuchAnnouncement in anyAnnouncer. > > [1] > http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/LanguageAndLibraries/announcements/ann… > > cheers -ben > >

Aug. 10, 2015

Accepting Email Drops on Pharo Window

by Sean P. DeNigris

Does anyone have experience with accepting drops of file types which are not supported by default? On StackOverflow [1], it was shown how to do this in Cocoa: ``` [window registerForDraggedTypes:[NSArray arrayWithObjects:(NSString*)kPasteboardTypeFileURLPromise,nil]]; ``` but do I really need to modify the VM? It seems like, since Smalltalk is so malleable, and more like an OS than an app, we should accept all types and let the user decide whether to do something with them, no? [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4115987/how-to-get-dropped-mail-message-… ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Accepting-Email-Drops-on-Pharo-Window-tp4841915.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 10, 2015

Debugging announcements

by Ben Coman

How are Announcements currently debugged? I vaguely remember I was once able to use AnnouncementSpy [1], but that seems not in Pharo5 anymore. Anyway, I'd rather avoid having to hunt within existing for a particular announcer to observe. What I'd really like is something like... RubTextAcceptRequest spy ...to be able to observe anySuchAnnouncement in anyAnnouncer. [1] http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/LanguageAndLibraries/announcements/ann… cheers -ben

Aug. 10, 2015