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Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Dimitris Chloupis

good work On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:28 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 22/8/15 17:13, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > > On 22-08-15 09:55, stepharo wrote: > >> Nice :) > >> would be fun to see if you can reuse the algo of roassal. > > > > I've taken a look at RTLayout and friends. Looks like > > a pretty small interface to implement. > > > > A separate package with the layouters would > > be useful. > Indeed I always thought about it. > > > Alexandre? > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > >

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by stepharo

Le 22/8/15 17:13, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > On 22-08-15 09:55, stepharo wrote: >> Nice :) >> would be fun to see if you can reuse the algo of roassal. > > I've taken a look at RTLayout and friends. Looks like > a pretty small interface to implement. > > A separate package with the layouters would > be useful. Indeed I always thought about it. > Alexandre? > > Stephan > > > >

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Stephan Eggermont

On 22-08-15 09:55, stepharo wrote: > Nice :) > would be fun to see if you can reuse the algo of roassal. I've taken a look at RTLayout and friends. Looks like a pretty small interface to implement. A separate package with the layouters would be useful. Alexandre? Stephan

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Johan Fabry

Just a small note:you can integrate GT tools as presentations in Spec now using a GlamourPresentationModel, so it seems that what you want to do should be easy. The GlamourPresentationModel is currently in my Playground repository on Smalltalkhub. ( http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~jfabry/Playground/packages/Spec-Glamour ) There is also an example UI called GlamourPMExample that shows how to use it. > On Aug 22, 2015, at 07:44, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Ps: I'm planning to use your Spec tutorials to rewrite the interface for my Grafoscopio project trying to mix Spec and GT Tools, as soon as I have time again, so thanks for writing it. ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, Nice to see this mind map example, and that you're working with young people for a brighter future with Smalltalk/Pharo :-). I remember that the first app I want to create and even propose to this list was a Mind mapping + Zooming app (think something like Xmind[1] mixed with prezi[2]), but was too complex to start with by myself, so seeing young people with proper tutorship starting with this is really awesome. I went with outlining and interactive writing which, with GT Tools, seems more approachable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMind [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prezi About design critique, I'm too newbie to made any suggestion code wise, but, as a long time user of mind mapping software I could offer some advice about future steps for improvements on this early version. a. The first thing is colors, the vivid green for links can be too vivid. This is a personal taste, but I would recommend to download Xmind and see the provided templates and stick with one of them in colors and graphical style as a prototype of the "end result". b. The second is edges. Curved are the classical style for them, even on paper. Maybe the drawing or arranging mechanism is complicated, but would be nice to have them instead of straight ones. Think in something like http://www.xmind.net/m/ejnN/ or http://www.xmind.net/m/QLmZ/ or http://www.xmind.net/m/jPvm/ as possible layouts for edges. c. Embedding graphics. If you offer this you could have a basic mind mapping tool for pharo for 99% of the cases :-). For the future I think in stuff like layout templates (a la Xmind), links between nodes, collapsible and expandable nodes, multimedia and zooming and you will have a serious contender in the presentation, brainstorming arena! Hope to be able to test it this weekend. This has been a really busy month! Cheers, Offray Ps: I'm planning to use your Spec tutorials to rewrite the interface for my Grafoscopio project trying to mix Spec and GT Tools, as soon as I have time again, so thanks for writing it. On 21/08/15 16:57, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > The past three days, Noah Domingo (15) and I have > been working on a new Morphic example. > We have build a first iteration of a Mindmapping tool. > Noah shows it in: > > https://vimeo.com/136943448 > > We would be interested in some design critique. > The way the Rubric text field is embedded in the > MindmapNode is not so clean. > > The code can be loaded by > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'StephanEggermont' project: 'Mindmap'; > package: 'Mindmap'; > load > >

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Very nice job! Cheers, Doru On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > The past three days, Noah Domingo (15) and I have > been working on a new Morphic example. > We have build a first iteration of a Mindmapping tool. > Noah shows it in: > > https://vimeo.com/136943448 > > We would be interested in some design critique. > The way the Rubric text field is embedded in the > MindmapNode is not so clean. > > The code can be loaded by > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'StephanEggermont' project: 'Mindmap'; > package: 'Mindmap'; > load > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Chalten & Aconcagua error

by Ben Coman

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tracked this cow to the max. > > This is caused by really long path name in Windows. Just move to a shorter > parent dir for a fast solution. > > HernÃ¡n > > > > 2015-08-21 2:11 GMT-03:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Hello, >> >> It seems Aconcagua cannot be installed from Configuration Browser in Pharo >> 4. It fails with the following exception: >> >> FileDoesNotExist: File @ >> C:\MySmalltalkProjects\SRS\ST2\github-cache\mtaborda\aconcagua\master\mtaborda-aconcagua-4d0a14f\repository\Aconcagua-Tests.package\monticello.meta\version >> >> Maximiliano? >> Or anyone could do some magic here? >> >> HernÃ¡n >> > I've been bit by this before. Maybe we need to distinguish the error better... where FileDoesNotExit is raised we need to check for path length and raise a different exception. Would need to check what the limits were for other platforms. cheers -ben

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by stepharo

Nice :) would be fun to see if you can reuse the algo of roassal. Le 21/8/15 23:57, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > The past three days, Noah Domingo (15) and I have > been working on a new Morphic example. > We have build a first iteration of a Mindmapping tool. > Noah shows it in: > > https://vimeo.com/136943448 > > We would be interested in some design critique. > The way the Rubric text field is embedded in the > MindmapNode is not so clean. > > The code can be loaded by > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'StephanEggermont' project: 'Mindmap'; > package: 'Mindmap'; > load > >

Aug. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Chalten & Aconcagua error

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Tracked this cow to the max. This is caused by really long path name in Windows. Just move to a shorter parent dir for a fast solution. HernÃ¡n 2015-08-21 2:11 GMT-03:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, > > It seems Aconcagua cannot be installed from Configuration Browser in Pharo > 4. It fails with the following exception: > > FileDoesNotExist: File @ > C:\MySmalltalkProjects\SRS\ST2\github-cache\mtaborda\aconcagua\master\mtaborda-aconcagua-4d0a14f\repository\Aconcagua-Tests.package\monticello.meta\version > > Maximiliano? > Or anyone could do some magic here? > > HernÃ¡n > >

Aug. 22, 2015

More fun with Morphic: 1st iteration of a Mindmapping tool

by Stephan Eggermont

The past three days, Noah Domingo (15) and I have been working on a new Morphic example. We have build a first iteration of a Mindmapping tool. Noah shows it in: https://vimeo.com/136943448 We would be interested in some design critique. The way the Rubric text field is embedded in the MindmapNode is not so clean. The code can be loaded by Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'StephanEggermont' project: 'Mindmap'; package: 'Mindmap'; load

Aug. 21, 2015