July 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] An Ubuntu-inspired theme for Pharo

by Alain Plantec

thanks a lot for sharing this! Cheers Alain > On 03 Jul 2015, at 22:15, Merwan Ouddane <merwanouddane(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Nice :) > > I have joined a screenshot > > On 03/07/2015 21:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> Pretty cool :) >> >> (Btw, I'm slowly working in a real theme manager... With remote themes so everybody will be able to contribute their themes without overbloath the image) >> >> Esteban >> >> >> >>> On 3 Jul 2015, at 20:47, Glenn CavarlÃ© <glenn(a)cavarle.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If anyone is interested, i made a small theme inspired by the Ubuntu >>> Ambiance theme : >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme >>> <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme> >>> >>> It is yet under development and if somebody is motivated to contribute, he >>> is welcome ! >>> (I don't have much time to refine it...) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Glenn. >>> >>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4835632/PharoBuntuTheme.png> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Glenn CavarlÃ© >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/An-Ubuntu-inspired-theme-for-Pharo-tp4835632.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> > > <pharobuntu.png>

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] An Ubuntu-inspired theme for Pharo

by Merwan Ouddane

Nice :) I have joined a screenshot On 03/07/2015 21:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Pretty cool :) > > (Btw, I'm slowly working in a real theme manager... With remote themes so everybody will be able to contribute their themes without overbloath the image) > > Esteban > > > >> On 3 Jul 2015, at 20:47, Glenn CavarlÃ© <glenn(a)cavarle.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> If anyone is interested, i made a small theme inspired by the Ubuntu >> Ambiance theme : >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme >> <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme> >> >> It is yet under development and if somebody is motivated to contribute, he >> is welcome ! >> (I don't have much time to refine it...) >> >> Regards, >> Glenn. >> >> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4835632/PharoBuntuTheme.png> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Glenn CavarlÃ© >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/An-Ubuntu-inspired-theme-for-Pharo-tp4835632.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] An Ubuntu-inspired theme for Pharo

by Esteban Lorenzano

Pretty cool :) (Btw, I'm slowly working in a real theme manager... With remote themes so everybody will be able to contribute their themes without overbloath the image) Esteban > On 3 Jul 2015, at 20:47, Glenn CavarlÃ© <glenn(a)cavarle.fr> wrote: > > Hi all, > If anyone is interested, i made a small theme inspired by the Ubuntu > Ambiance theme : > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme > <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme> > > It is yet under development and if somebody is motivated to contribute, he > is welcome ! > (I don't have much time to refine it...) > > Regards, > Glenn. > > <http://forum.world.st/file/n4835632/PharoBuntuTheme.png> > > > > ----- > Glenn CavarlÃ© > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/An-Ubuntu-inspired-theme-for-Pharo-tp4835632.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

July 3, 2015

An Ubuntu-inspired theme for Pharo

by Glenn CavarlÃ©

Hi all, If anyone is interested, i made a small theme inspired by the Ubuntu Ambiance theme : http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GlennCavarle/PharoBuntuTheme> It is yet under development and if somebody is motivated to contribute, he is welcome ! (I don't have much time to refine it...) Regards, Glenn. <http://forum.world.st/file/n4835632/PharoBuntuTheme.png> ----- Glenn CavarlÃ© -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/An-Ubuntu-inspired-theme-for-Pharo-tp4835632.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 3, 2015

Building a Morphic Card Wall, Part 3: SVG export & WebSocket

by Stephan Eggermont

https://vimeo.com/132548781

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> > By the way, I've always used return statements in blocks to "break" out of > loops since i didn't find any "break" method in Pharo. Is that bad too ? > It's still the same thing. Could you provide an example where you do such a thing? When I started with Smalltalk I had also this habit of forcing loops everywhere and breaking them, and only later I realized that it is very often much better expressed as collections with do:/select:/collect:/... Peter

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface

by jannik laval

2015-07-03 11:22 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >> 2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> >>> >>> 2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi Thierry, >>>> >>>> It is a choice :) >>>> Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. >>>> In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible >>>> with platforms where it is not available. >>>> >>> >>> Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't >>> has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the >>> moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type >>> activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. >>> >> >> Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? >> Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it. >> > > I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I > can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch. > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/ > > >> >> >>> >>> And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;) >>> >> >> Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it >> soon, i hope. >> > > What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports > from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm > documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device. > We use a serial connection on the bluetooth, after a pairing. We need to send data on the /dev/bluetooth-ev3-something Sometimes, the ev3 does not appear in /dev. > > >> >>> >>> >>>> Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can >>> rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it >>> would be to use LANG. >>> >>> >>>> If you have a code snippet, I can use it. >>>> >>> >>> I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. >>> LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would >>> that match Phratch language settings ? >>> >> >> phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your >> system should be uderstandable by phratch. >> > > Ok. I'll have a look then. > Thank you. Jannik > > Thierry > > >> >> Jannik >> >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Thierry >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://www.approchealpes.info >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

by Matthieu Lacaton

Well, thanks for the documentation, the first article was quite interesting and I'm gonna get this book asap :) When you execute a block (far away from the place it was created), it acts > as an exception, it stops the execution of currently executed methods and > return to its home context (method that led to the creation of the block) > Read deep into Pharo because this is a great chapter. > So people should avoid to put return statement into a block since a block > returns already the value of its last expression. > So for me > arg: [ ^ ... ] > > is a big warning. > Thanks for the explanation, I need to read this chapter, right :p By the way, I've always used return statements in blocks to "break" out of loops since i didn't find any "break" method in Pharo. Is that bad too ? 2015-07-03 10:11 GMT+02:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > by the way > > >> nextOrNextAfterNext := stream next ifNil: [stream next]. >> > > I would argue that almost every person who would read this would think > it's a bug and it should be ifNotNil: > > Also there would be no point in saving it to a variable if you will just > return. > ^ stream next ifNil: [ stream next ] >

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface

by Guillermo Polito

Wait, there is already in-image support to obtain the current locale and language setting. Did you try Locale current ? (and there is a setting to enable its obtention automatically on startup). Actually if somebody uses it for real and tests it well that would be a big +1 :) Guille El vie., 3 de jul. de 2015 a la(s) 11:23 a. m., Thierry Goubier < thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > 2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >> 2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> >>> >>> 2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi Thierry, >>>> >>>> It is a choice :) >>>> Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. >>>> In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible >>>> with platforms where it is not available. >>>> >>> >>> Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't >>> has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the >>> moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type >>> activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. >>> >> >> Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? >> Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it. >> > > I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I > can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch. > > >> >> >>> >>> And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;) >>> >> >> Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it >> soon, i hope. >> > > What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports > from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm > documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device. > > >> >>> >>> >>>> Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can >>> rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it >>> would be to use LANG. >>> >>> >>>> If you have a code snippet, I can use it. >>>> >>> >>> I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. >>> LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would >>> that match Phratch language settings ? >>> >> >> phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your >> system should be uderstandable by phratch. >> > > Ok. I'll have a look then. > > Thierry > > >> >> Jannik >> >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Thierry >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://www.approchealpes.info >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> >

July 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface

by Thierry Goubier

2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >> 2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Thierry, >>> >>> It is a choice :) >>> Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. >>> In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible >>> with platforms where it is not available. >>> >> >> Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't >> has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the >> moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type >> activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. >> > > Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? > Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it. > I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch. > > >> >> And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;) >> > > Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it > soon, i hope. > What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device. > >> >> >>> Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. >>> >> >> Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can >> rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it >> would be to use LANG. >> >> >>> If you have a code snippet, I can use it. >>> >> >> I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. >> LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would >> that match Phratch language settings ? >> > > phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your > system should be uderstandable by phratch. > Ok. I'll have a look then. Thierry > > Jannik > > >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

July 3, 2015