July 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Well, the procedure we made in both cases was the same. Went to download page, download the proper package for each platform and with the previous one, operators didn't work but on this they do. I don't know if is possible to see details on each version by going to the underlaying system. Finally we detected what was going on: The operators don't work if we change the language interface to Spanish. If I can help with any test or details, let me know. Cheers, Offray On 14/07/15 16:17, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more > details. > > Offray > > On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote: >> Hi Offray, >> >> Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? >> It is probable that a link is not correct. >> >> Best, >> Jannik >> >> 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> <offray(a)riseup.net>: >> >> Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the >> workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging >> for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list >> in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait >> for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now >> is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in >> the code recently that we miss. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Offray >> >> >> >> On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: >>> Hi Offray, >>> >>> you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: >>> phratch(a)googlegroups.com. >>> >>> About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I >>> cannot reproduce your problem: >>> - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: >>> http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall >>> - run it >>> - click on the category "operators". >>> It works for me. >>> >>> For your second question: >>> There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines. >>> >>> >>> I will be happy to answer other questions :) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jannik >>> >>> >>> 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >>> <offray(a)riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without >>> much of any experience with computer programming. The idea >>> is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more >>> symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a >>> taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration >>> this environment provides. >>> >>> But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. >>> We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which >>> is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the >>> currently available package from the download page. Can >>> somebody help me on this? >>> >>> Also: >>> >>> Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the >>> background? >>> >>> I will be sharing more questions as they come. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Offray >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> Enseignant-chercheur >>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> http://www.phratch.com >>> http://www.approchealpes.info >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://www.approchealpes.info >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> >

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJS

by Andy Burnett

Hi guys, It is a project from Noury - at the Mines school. Just do a google for Noury and PharoJs I found out about it from Torsten's blog - always worth reading :-) AIUI, what it does is convert Pharo code - in the fly - to JavaScript. I can't say much more because I haven't got it to run. However, it is on small talk hub, so ease give it a go.

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Jan, I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more details. Offray On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote: > Hi Offray, > > Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? > It is probable that a link is not correct. > > Best, > Jannik > > 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray(a)riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: > > Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop > right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we > all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this > hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us > there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is > working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the > code recently that we miss. > > Thanks again, > > Offray > > > > On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: >> Hi Offray, >> >> you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: >> phratch(a)googlegroups.com <mailto:phratch@googlegroups.com>. >> >> About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I >> cannot reproduce your problem: >> - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: >> http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall >> - run it >> - click on the category "operators". >> It works for me. >> >> For your second question: >> There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines. >> >> >> I will be happy to answer other questions :) >> >> Best regards, >> Jannik >> >> >> 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> <offray(a)riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without >> much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is >> to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more >> symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a >> taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration >> this environment provides. >> >> But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. >> We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which >> is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the >> currently available package from the download page. Can >> somebody help me on this? >> >> Also: >> >> Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? >> >> I will be sharing more questions as they come. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Offray >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://www.approchealpes.info >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by jannik laval

Hi Offray, Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? It is probable that a link is not correct. Best, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> : > Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right > now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if > I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using > Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the > installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version > with a change in the code recently that we miss. > > Thanks again, > > Offray > > > > On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: > > Hi Offray, > > you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: > <phratch(a)googlegroups.com>phratch(a)googlegroups.com. > > About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot > reproduce your problem: > - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: > http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall > - run it > - click on the category "operators". > It works for me. > > For your second question: > There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines. > > > I will be happy to answer other questions :) > > Best regards, > Jannik > > > 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < > <offray(a)riseup.net>offray(a)riseup.net>: > >> Hi all, >> >> Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any >> experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today >> and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and >> give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this >> environment provides. >> >> But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU >> as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any >> advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the >> download page. Can somebody help me on this? >> >> Also: >> >> Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? >> >> I will be sharing more questions as they come. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Offray >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss. Thanks again, Offray On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: > Hi Offray, > > you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: > phratch(a)googlegroups.com <mailto:phratch@googlegroups.com>. > > About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I > cannot reproduce your problem: > - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: > http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall > - run it > - click on the category "operators". > It works for me. > > For your second question: > There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines. > > > I will be happy to answer other questions :) > > Best regards, > Jannik > > > 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray(a)riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>: > > Hi all, > > Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much > of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a > workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract > approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels > of programmig and exploration this environment provides. > > But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get > a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real > stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available > package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? > > Also: > > Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? > > I will be sharing more questions as they come. > > Thanks, > > Offray > > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by jannik laval

Hi Offray, you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: phratch(a)googlegroups.com. About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem: - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall - run it - click on the category "operators". It works for me. For your second question: There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines. I will be happy to answer other questions :) Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> : > Hi all, > > Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any > experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today > and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and > give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this > environment provides. > > But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU > as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any > advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the > download page. Can somebody help me on this? > > Also: > > Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? > > I will be sharing more questions as they come. > > Thanks, > > Offray > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/

July 14, 2015

(Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi all, Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides. But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? Also: Â¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? I will be sharing more questions as they come. Thanks, Offray

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving image sometimes corrupts it

by Stephan Eggermont

On 14-07-15 15:11, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > yesâ¦ I introduced that problem in Pharo 5. > If you are using that version right now, it is my fault :) > (but is Pharo 5 pre-alpha so we are ok with this instabilities for nowâ¦ I will solve that after ESUG) Ok, I ran into this too (see pharo-dev). Which version is safe to use? Stephan

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJS

by ClÃ©ment Bera

What is PharoJS ? Are you talking about Pharo on top of the Bert's SqueakJS VM ? If so, it starts, but some primitives fail making it freeze after a short while as you describe. It would be fun to have it running even though most of the Pharo folks went into the Amber direction for Pharo on Javascript. 2015-07-14 19:46 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>: > Where can I download it? > > Regards! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > 2015-07-13 22:26 GMT-03:00 Andy Burnett <andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com>: > >> Is anyone experimenting with PharoJS? >> >> I managed to get the page with the core javascript functions to load - as >> localhost - but I couldn't get any of the actions in the workspace to have >> any effect on the web browser console. >> >> Has anyone had any success? >> >> Cheers >> Andy >> > >

July 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJS

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Where can I download it? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-07-13 22:26 GMT-03:00 Andy Burnett <andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com>: > Is anyone experimenting with PharoJS? > > I managed to get the page with the core javascript functions to load - as > localhost - but I couldn't get any of the actions in the workspace to have > any effect on the web browser console. > > Has anyone had any success? > > Cheers > Andy >

July 14, 2015