July 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] saving text files from inspector

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > The problem is that if you have a larger text file (let's say 100Mb), > Rubric still takes too long to open. Thus, we cannot show the whole file, > and because of that, we also cannot provide complete editing options. This > will change with TxText. > > I see... even though it sounds weird... I mean not only will most editors irrespective of language choke on 100Mb files, but such file will be obviously generated and why would you edit such a beast by hand? So if I want it I should write a custom presenter (or just copy the script one). Thanks, Peter

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] saving text files from inspector

by Tudor Girba

The problem is that if you have a larger text file (let's say 100Mb), Rubric still takes too long to open. Thus, we cannot show the whole file, and because of that, we also cannot provide complete editing options. This will change with TxText. Doru On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > it seems that I cannot save text files from inspector, only if they are > smalltalk (.st) files, in which case a different text editor tab (Script, > instead of Contents) is opened up. > > Is this an oversight or an intention? > > Thanks, > Peter > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 24, 2015

saving text files from inspector

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, it seems that I cannot save text files from inspector, only if they are smalltalk (.st) files, in which case a different text editor tab (Script, instead of Contents) is opened up. Is this an oversight or an intention? Thanks, Peter

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find Bloc and how do I load it?

by stepharo

In the examples tag of the bloc package, you have around 20 classes full of examples. I do not see how you could miss them :) Le 20/7/15 14:28, H. Hirzel a Ã©crit : > Thank you for all answers. > > This is the one I was looking for > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Bloc/ > > The latest Bloc in otherwise stable Pharo 4.0 environment. > > Where do I start exploring the examples? > > --Hannes > > > > > On 7/20/15, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> Hannes Hirzel wrote >>> I wonder where...https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/? >> The community server is at https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ . There >> is a link to it on the left menu of the link you gave. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Where-do-I-find-Bloc-and-how-do-I-load-it-tp4838110p4… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by Bystroushaak

Hello. Thanks for reply, but this is not what I mean. Wiki is all about presentation of the informations to other users. On the other hand, personal wiki/PIM is tool for introspection of your own brain, microscope designed to look into yourself. It is meant to run in one thread on your computer, to organize files and ideas. There may be calendar to help you with your agenda, or maybe contact list and so on.. Another term for what I am looking for may be outliner: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner Dne 24.7.2015 v 19:06 stepharo napsal(a): > Hi > > You have pier http://piercms.com > Esteban is thinking about doing a minipier. > > Stef

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Class side vs instance side

by stepharo

What I like with having class is that you can attach behavior aTop opposite -> aBottom Le 23/7/15 02:40, Peter Uhnak a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I am trying to figure out where to best place some mapping/data/stable > methods. > > For example imagine method > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > MyRectangle>>oppositeSides > ^ { #top -> #bottom. > #bottom -> #top. > #topLeft -> #bottomRight > .... > } asDictionary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > And then the class might have some other related methods such as > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > MyRectangle>>oppositeSideFor: aSide > ^ self oppositeSides at: aSide > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > So it's a method returning a mapping between opposite sides/corners > and thus is really not going to change. > Now I could place this in instance-side and create a new instance > every time I wanted to use it (which doesn't seem practical), or I > could put it in class-side. > The problem I have with class-side is that naming is more like going > through minefield (more than once I corrupted my image by naming a > method or variable something I shouldn't have), and for whatever > reason it feels like either metaprogramming or procedural > programmming... That class side methods are pretty much global > functions/variables... and short of constructors I am avoiding static > methods even in other languages... but maybe using it is ok. Or maybe > have it object an use singleton? > > The only oop-like approach I see would be to extend symbols (#top > oppositeSide), or have separate objects for sides, but that seems like > overkill. > > MySide subclass: #Top > > Top>>oppositeSide > ^ Bottom new > > Are there any best practices regarding this? This is also true for > actual data stored in methods/attributes (such as icons). > > P.s.: For english natives... Should the second method be ned > "oppositeSideOf:" or "oppositeSideFor:"? > > Any ideas/pointers appreciated, > Peter

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] gitfiletree metadata

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Check which versions are bold when you open the package. Because when I >> use gitfiletree it usually shows me that the latest few versions are not >> loaded (they are in bold) but I am anyway on the latest one. > > > As I've said, it shows me that I am on the latest version. > > Maybe this happens to you because you load it from github and only after > you add gitfiletree? (At least from what I remember what you've shown me > (and you are using GitFileTree from MetaRepo30?)) > > Understood. So this means all commits you've done (the -bliznjan) were >> done with filetree? >> > > He suffered through with git on Windows for some time, so maybe the later > half? > > Sorry for the lack of support on windows. You'll have to wait for >> libcgit. > > > Is there an estimated timeline when this will be? (weeks, months, years, > ...?) > > >> Barely similar behavior to ghost changes is that when I finish my loading >> script, DynaCASE package is marked as changed, but when I try to get diff >> (changes) with (git)filetree, it says nothing has changed and this >> "changed" >> mark disappears. > > > When you look at the way the changed flag is set in Monticello, it is >> obvious false positives are the order of the day. So nothing really >> significant there ;) > > > Yes, this also happens to me, but it is different. > Actually this is what I was expecting would happen in the issue described > originally... that when I check changes (and it was already committed) that > it would just disappear as false positive... but nope, it still claimed > it's new and only actual git history have shown that it was a false > positive. > > Anyway, it doesn't seem there will be resolution for this until it can be > reproduced consistently... so I'll try be more observant. :) > Note to self: it may or may not be related to having github repository loaded for some unknown reason... because that shouldn't be there as I lock & load everything from local gitfiletree repos...

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] gitfiletree metadata

by Thierry Goubier

Le 24/07/2015 13:26, Peter UhnÃ¡k a Ã©crit : > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Thierry Goubier > <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > 2015-07-24 13:19 GMT+02:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com > <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>>: > > I'm not sure how is Pharo 4 related (I do all dev in 5 now). > > > I should update DynaCASE docs, if that's where you got that > impression... > > > Yes, from the DynaCASE doc, I believed you were in Pharo4 :) > > > Sorry, I've fixed that now. I moved to Pharo 5 during ESUG and forgot to > update it. > In fact the original issue emerged after I switched to 5, so in 4 it > should be ok. Ok, regarding the error, I'm correcting it as I write this email and... The semantics of Monticello (or the changes done in Pharo5 because I never saw them before) are horrible. There is for example, code encapsulated with <<on: Error do:>> which totally get the wrong result (and hide the error) when ordering versions in a repository. In short, I suspect your problem with changes are linked to that. Man, how I hate having to cope with code like that. Thierry > > Peter

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Screamer for Smalltalk?

by stepharo

it is close to amb? because seaside has amb Le 23/7/15 23:03, Paul DeBruicker a Ã©crit : > Hi > > Screamer (https://nikodemus.github.io/screamer/) is a Lisp library that: > > "Screamer provides a nondeterministic choice-point operator, a backtracking mechanism, and a forward propagation facility." > > > Is there an equivalent library available in Smalltalk? > > > Thanks > > Paul >

July 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

But Pier is in the browser, no? On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:06 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > You have pier http://piercms.com > Esteban is thinking about doing a minipier. > > Stef > > Le 24/7/15 15:26, Bystroushaak a Ã©crit : > > Hello. >> >> Is there any software projects/libraries for personal wiki (something >> like ZIM or CherryTree or Orgmode for writing texts/notes) and personal >> information managing in Pharo? >> >> I think that Pharo would be great for this kind of software, because it >> would provide rich scripting options. Also the idea of representing >> informations as objects is really great. >> >> For example; now I keep list of books I read in DSV file. With this SW, I >> could have a list of objects representing the books, which could be sorted >> or rendered to lower level protocols, like DSV/XML/whatever. >> >> Related: >> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_information_manager >> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_wiki >> >> >> >> > >

July 24, 2015