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Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 27/07/15 02:35, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a Ã©crit : >> LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - >> specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I >> certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here. > > If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier > and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and > editing support. I'm using pandoc's markdown and trying to make pandoc to talk better with Pharo. Pandoc has support for a lot of languages (see graph at [1]), including html and LaTeX, but also a more plural community [2] including plublishers [3] (the post is about using IPython notebook but the supporting format is markdown). In my opinion this is a good example of a place where we need to talk better with external libraries, frameworks and communities. [1] http://pandoc.org/ [2] http://scholarlymarkdown.com/ [3] https://beta.oreilly.com/ideas/jupyter-at-oreilly Cheers, Offray

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by Tudor Girba

Indeed, TxText should provide live rendering. In the meantime, we have Rubric and there is a reasonable support for live rendering and linking: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/writing-pillar-books-with-the-gtinspe… However, the current problem is the parser. In my solution, I used an island parser based on PetitParser. That's because the main parser is not flexible enough and, for example, does not preserve the locations of AST nodes. So, I would suggest to build on top of the GTInspector extension for now and focus on the Pillar parser. Once the parser will be usable for live rendering, we can switch to the TxText. Who would be interested in participating? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:21 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Once we will get TxText we will really invest into nice rendering. Now > nothing prevents someone to push to have comments better rendered > based on kasper > > Stef > > Le 27/7/15 10:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k a Ã©crit : > > I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for > Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on this > long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also because of > clickable links. > > Kasper Ãsterbye did this some time ago > > â(original thread > http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td… > ) > > However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar > repository shows only a single commit from April). > > Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard. > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> >> Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a Ã©crit : >> >> LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - >> specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly >> don't have any code yet; complete newb here. >> >> >> If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier >> and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and >> editing support. >> >> >> On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> >> <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing >>> one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working >>> on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running >>> into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. >>> >>> Evan >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by stepharo

Once we will get TxText we will really invest into nice rendering. Now nothing prevents someone to push to have comments better rendered based on kasper Stef Le 27/7/15 10:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k a Ã©crit : > I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for > Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on > this long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also > because of clickable links. > > Kasper Ãsterbye did this some time ago > > â(original thread > http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td… > ) > > However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar > repository shows only a single commit from April). > > Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard. > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a Ã©crit : >> LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - >> specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I >> certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here. > > If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of > Pier and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter > and > editing support. >> >> On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> >> <mailto:emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've >> been writing one as well and using it to organize my research >> notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want >> to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same >> issues, both conceptual and technical. >> >> Evan >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > >

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] A Morphic ScrumBoard, part 4: Other planning boards

by stepharo

Le 27/7/15 11:04, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > We would love to have your demos on Bloc soon :) We all thought the same ;) > > Doru > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl > <mailto:stephan@stack.nl>> wrote: > > On 27-07-15 09:38, stepharo wrote: > > you are proving that people can use Morphic to build non > traditional > applications and without roassal :) > > > The Roassal examples made it much easier to get started. > Roassal with Glamour was excellent for building applications > with lots of visualizations. > > I hope having some Morphic examples will give people an easier start. > > Stephan > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] A Morphic ScrumBoard, part 4: Other planning boards

by Tudor Girba

We would love to have your demos on Bloc soon :) Doru On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > On 27-07-15 09:38, stepharo wrote: > >> you are proving that people can use Morphic to build non traditional >> applications and without roassal :) >> > > The Roassal examples made it much easier to get started. > Roassal with Glamour was excellent for building applications > with lots of visualizations. > > I hope having some Morphic examples will give people an easier start. > > Stephan > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Markdown -> Pillar

by Damien Cassou

HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> writes: > Has anyone implemented a feature to convert a document from Markdown format > to Pillar? not yet. But Jan implemented a full-featured Markdown parser in PetitParser so I guess the hard part has been written already. I know others are interested in that too, e.g., Norbert. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Separate compilation with Pillar?

by Damien Cassou

Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> writes: > I'll work soon on getting ride of the scripts. > We'll try to have everything on the configuration file. So, that will be > easy to export only 1 chapter, or to remove one export etc. that' really important Cyril. We should get rid of bash scripts. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

July 27, 2015

Markdown -> Pillar

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hello, Has anyone implemented a feature to convert a document from Markdown format to Pillar? Cheers, HernÃ¡n

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

by Damien Cassou

Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> writes: > Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk > here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can > help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction. please continue on the mailing list -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

July 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] A Morphic ScrumBoard, part 4: Other planning boards

by Stephan Eggermont

On 27-07-15 09:38, stepharo wrote: > you are proving that people can use Morphic to build non traditional > applications and without roassal :) The Roassal examples made it much easier to get started. Roassal with Glamour was excellent for building applications with lots of visualizations. I hope having some Morphic examples will give people an easier start. Stephan

July 27, 2015