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Re: [Pharo-users] mac address on windows

by Usman Bhatti

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 05/05/2015 18:28, Usman Bhatti a Ã©crit : > >> I succeeded to do it by encapsulating the C routine as a DLL and doing >> an FFI call from my image (as suggested by Guille). >> >> I also tried to perform the nativeboost call by creating my structures >> in Pharo. The function in Windows that can be used to retrieve mac >> address in Windows: GetAdaptersInfo >> < >> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365917%28v=vs.85…> >> that >> accepts a PIP_ADAPTER_INFO >> < >> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366062(v=vs.85).…> >> structure. >> I subclassed NBExternalStructure to define this struct and the other >> used by it in the image but my NB call returned with 87 code (Invalid >> parameter) and it was impossible to debug. However, I would like to make >> this thing work to understand what went wrong. >> >> With ProcessWrapper, I could not load the classes essential for making >> the plugin work. >> > > ProcessWrapper is loaded with GitFileTree in Pharo3 and Pharo4. > > Can you detail what doesn't work? When doing: Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; load. Plugin classes couldn't be loaded because they require SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin class. I found a few posts mentioning that the class should be present in the VMMaker but I didn't dig further. regards. > > > Thierry > > >> HTH, >> >> Usman >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com >> <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: >> >> As a complete newb to VM building I found this fairly straight >> forward (on a Mac btw). >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >> cheers -ben >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:usman.bhatti@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com >> <mailto:pierce@samadhiweb.com>> wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 03:55:47PM +0200, Usman Bhatti wrote: >> > 1/ OSProcess: I tried (PipeableOSProcess command: >> 'ipconfig /all') output. >> >> I have used >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/ProcessWrapper >> successfully >> back when I was on Windows using some now-ancient version of >> Pharo. >> >> >> I had initially discarded the idea of using this project because >> it required a plugin and the information of the plugin was >> outdated on squeaksource. However, having evaluated >> superficially the complexity of doing it with nativeboost >> (because too many external c struct involved in the call), I >> would like to see if I am better off using this wrapper. >> >> I loaded it with: >> >> Gofer it >> url: ' >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; >> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; >> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; >> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; >> load. >> >> But the plugins wont load because it requires the >> class SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin and apparently this file is a >> part of the VMMaker. Is there any recent config for VMMaker in >> Pharo because this one looks outdated: >> >> http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool/ >> >> >> >> >> Pierce >> >> >> >> >> > >

May 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] mac address on windows

by Usman Bhatti

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:34 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I succeeded to do it by encapsulating the C routine as a DLL and doing an >> FFI call from my image (as suggested by Guille). >> > > At least there was a way! > Exactly :) > > Looks like this is the most controlled|debuggable way: > - get it working with C code out of Pharo > - make a bridge that can be used easily with FFI in a dll > - use that from Pharo with proven FFI > > Would NativeBoost work with your dll? Should. > I have read a few resources about Nativeboost but I am still naive to know the difference between FFI and nativeboost. The FFI call I made to invoke the DLL function looked similar to the nativeboost calls. > > > I also tried to perform the nativeboost call by creating my structures in >> Pharo. The function in Windows that can be used to retrieve mac address in >> Windows: GetAdaptersInfo >> <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365917%28v=vs.85…> that >> accepts a PIP_ADAPTER_INFO >> <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366062(v=vs.85).…> structure. >> I subclassed NBExternalStructure to define this struct and the other used >> by it in the image but my NB call returned with 87 code (Invalid parameter) >> and it was impossible to debug. However, I would like to make this thing >> work to understand what went wrong. >> > > Has this something to do with 32|64 bit library complications? > Not exactly. For me, it was more related to the fact that I had to map a complex C struct in Pharo. Here is an excerpt of the definition from MSDN: typedef struct _IP_ADAPTER_INFO { struct _IP_ADAPTER_INFO *Next; ... PIP_ADDR_STRING CurrentIpAddress; IP_ADDR_STRING GatewayList; ... } So, I had to define three external structures (all names in capitals) and I did the effort but in the end I got an error code that I could not debug in the image. Hence, I gave up and opted to go in the native environment. But I would like someone knowledgable to have a look at my nativeboost code because the nativeboost approach is more simple (everything's in the image). usman > > Phil > >> >> With ProcessWrapper, I could not load the classes essential for making >> the plugin work. >> >> HTH, >> >> Usman >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >> >>> As a complete newb to VM building I found this fairly straight forward >>> (on a Mac btw). >>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >>> cheers -ben >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 03:55:47PM +0200, Usman Bhatti wrote: >>>>> > 1/ OSProcess: I tried (PipeableOSProcess command: 'ipconfig /all') >>>>> output. >>>>> >>>>> I have used http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/ProcessWrapper >>>>> successfully >>>>> back when I was on Windows using some now-ancient version of Pharo. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I had initially discarded the idea of using this project because it >>>> required a plugin and the information of the plugin was outdated on >>>> squeaksource. However, having evaluated superficially the complexity of >>>> doing it with nativeboost (because too many external c struct involved in >>>> the call), I would like to see if I am better off using this wrapper. >>>> >>>> I loaded it with: >>>> >>>> Gofer it >>>> url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; >>>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; >>>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; >>>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> But the plugins wont load because it requires the >>>> class SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin and apparently this file is a part of >>>> the VMMaker. Is there any recent config for VMMaker in Pharo because this >>>> one looks outdated: >>>> >>>> http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pierce >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > >

May 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Editing Pillar

by Norbert Hartl

I tried that a few weeks ago and it didn't work. Maybe I should try again? Norbert > Am 04.05.2015 um 23:42 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Take a look at the support from GT-Inspector: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/writing-pillar-books-with-the-gtinspe… <http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/writing-pillar-books-with-the-gtinspe…> > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > I know there are few threads about Pillar these days. I'm sorry if I'm repeating another present question. What would be the best way to edit a pillar file in the image. Is there some nice rubric editor or the like where I can edit pillar syntax with highlighting? And has this something like the preview the class comment in pillar stuff offers? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Woden-Roassal pharo5 inspector bugs

by Lusa Nicolas

Hi, thanks for the quick answer, I'll switch back to pharo4 for the moment. Cheers, Nicolas

May 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] mac address on windows

by Thierry Goubier

Le 05/05/2015 18:28, Usman Bhatti a Ã©crit : > I succeeded to do it by encapsulating the C routine as a DLL and doing > an FFI call from my image (as suggested by Guille). > > I also tried to perform the nativeboost call by creating my structures > in Pharo. The function in Windows that can be used to retrieve mac > address in Windows: GetAdaptersInfo > <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365917%28v=vs.85…> that > accepts a PIP_ADAPTER_INFO > <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366062(v=vs.85).…> structure. > I subclassed NBExternalStructure to define this struct and the other > used by it in the image but my NB call returned with 87 code (Invalid > parameter) and it was impossible to debug. However, I would like to make > this thing work to understand what went wrong. > > With ProcessWrapper, I could not load the classes essential for making > the plugin work. ProcessWrapper is loaded with GitFileTree in Pharo3 and Pharo4. Can you detail what doesn't work? Thierry > > HTH, > > Usman > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com > <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: > > As a complete newb to VM building I found this fairly straight > forward (on a Mac btw). > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > cheers -ben > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com > <mailto:usman.bhatti@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com > <mailto:pierce@samadhiweb.com>> wrote: > > On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 03:55:47PM +0200, Usman Bhatti wrote: > > 1/ OSProcess: I tried (PipeableOSProcess command: 'ipconfig /all') output. > > I have used > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/ProcessWrapper > successfully > back when I was on Windows using some now-ancient version of > Pharo. > > > I had initially discarded the idea of using this project because > it required a plugin and the information of the plugin was > outdated on squeaksource. However, having evaluated > superficially the complexity of doing it with nativeboost > (because too many external c struct involved in the call), I > would like to see if I am better off using this wrapper. > > I loaded it with: > > Gofer it > url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; > package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; > package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; > package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; > load. > > But the plugins wont load because it requires the > class SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin and apparently this file is a > part of the VMMaker. Is there any recent config for VMMaker in > Pharo because this one looks outdated: > http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool/ > > > > > Pierce > > > >

May 5, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] mac address on windows

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I succeeded to do it by encapsulating the C routine as a DLL and doing an > FFI call from my image (as suggested by Guille). > At least there was a way! Looks like this is the most controlled|debuggable way: - get it working with C code out of Pharo - make a bridge that can be used easily with FFI in a dll - use that from Pharo with proven FFI Would NativeBoost work with your dll? Should. I also tried to perform the nativeboost call by creating my structures in > Pharo. The function in Windows that can be used to retrieve mac address in > Windows: GetAdaptersInfo > <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365917%28v=vs.85…> that > accepts a PIP_ADAPTER_INFO > <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366062(v=vs.85).…> structure. > I subclassed NBExternalStructure to define this struct and the other used > by it in the image but my NB call returned with 87 code (Invalid parameter) > and it was impossible to debug. However, I would like to make this thing > work to understand what went wrong. > Has this something to do with 32|64 bit library complications? Phil > > With ProcessWrapper, I could not load the classes essential for making the > plugin work. > > HTH, > > Usman > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> As a complete newb to VM building I found this fairly straight forward >> (on a Mac btw). >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >> cheers -ben >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 03:55:47PM +0200, Usman Bhatti wrote: >>>> > 1/ OSProcess: I tried (PipeableOSProcess command: 'ipconfig /all') >>>> output. >>>> >>>> I have used http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/ProcessWrapper >>>> successfully >>>> back when I was on Windows using some now-ancient version of Pharo. >>>> >>> >>> I had initially discarded the idea of using this project because it >>> required a plugin and the information of the plugin was outdated on >>> squeaksource. However, having evaluated superficially the complexity of >>> doing it with nativeboost (because too many external c struct involved in >>> the call), I would like to see if I am better off using this wrapper. >>> >>> I loaded it with: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; >>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; >>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; >>> package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; >>> load. >>> >>> But the plugins wont load because it requires the >>> class SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin and apparently this file is a part of >>> the VMMaker. Is there any recent config for VMMaker in Pharo because this >>> one looks outdated: >>> >>> http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/VMMakerTool/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Pierce >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 5, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] asOrderedSet

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 05.05.2015 um 19:28 schrieb phil(a)highoctane.be: > > Thx. > > Found that one but it does a removal on the collection itself and copies over and over. > > I am searching for asOrderedCollectionWithoutDuplicates that leaves the original collection alone. anOrderedCollection copy removeDuplicates? :) Norbert > > Phil > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:34 PM, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > OrderedCollection>>removeDuplicates? > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of phil(a)highoctane.be <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> > Sent: 05 May 2015 17:07 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > Subject: [Pharo-users] asOrderedSet > > > > Looks like we haven't that one. > > So, how does one get an ordered collection without duplicates from an orderered collection ? > > Phil > > > > > -- > >

May 5, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] asOrderedSet

by phil＠highoctane.be

Thx. Found that one but it does a removal on the collection itself and copies over and over. I am searching for asOrderedCollectionWithoutDuplicates that leaves the original collection alone. Phil On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:34 PM, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote: > OrderedCollection>>removeDuplicates? > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > *From:* Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On > Behalf Of *phil(a)highoctane.be > *Sent:* 05 May 2015 17:07 > *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome > *Subject:* [Pharo-users] asOrderedSet > > > > Looks like we haven't that one. > > So, how does one get an ordered collection without duplicates from an > orderered collection ? > > Phil > --

May 5, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] A Pharo..

by Ben Coman

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May 5, 2015

A Pharo..

by Hilaire

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May 5, 2015