May 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Is the Playground the Workspace?â

by Daniel Roe

Question to Daniel: Did you try to know something about the tool before in the IDE? For example, did you try to read the About of the tool? (I'm trying to determine how useful/accesible are the help features of the tools) To show you what a noob I am - I don't even understand your question. Dan

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Lectures in africa :)

by Sergio Fedi

Awesome! On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Excellent! > Thanks to share this impressive effort with us > > cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On May 24, 2015, at 7:47 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > > Hi guys > > > > I m back to europe after one week to senegal. > > There I gave lectures to Dakar 3 h > > OO advanced design > > seaside > > and met Pr. Alassane Bah an old Smalltalker that is eager to push Pharo. > > I gave him my lectures and we will see what we will do. > > > > Then at Saint-Louis I gave lectures two times 3 h. > > They want to have an advanced oop lectures. > > > > Students loved it. > > > > I gave a presentation of Pharo to all the reseach group leader of the > LIRIMA a lab join with inria and several countries. > > People from Yaounde want to do something with Pharo :) > > > > So be ready to get newbies soon. > > > > Stef > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Is the Playground the Workspace?

by Sergio Fedi

Question to Daniel: Did you try to know something about the tool before in the IDE? For example, did you try to read the About of the tool? (I'm trying to determine how useful/accesible are the help features of the tools) â

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Is the Playground the Workspace?

by Sergio Fedi

Yes, and it also offers additional features. It remembers the code you've written/executed (someone correct me please) (it saves them in a directory called name-cache or somothing like that) âIf you rename the tab you get a file with that name. And you can search for that piece of code later with the Spotter (sfhit+enter) You can evaluate and inspect something in the same window: try Alt+Shift+G or pressing the little green play button top right. There may be more features that I don't recall right now. Cheers.

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Is the Playground the Workspace?

by Cyril Ferlicot

Hi, The playground is not the workspace. You can open a workspace by executing this : Workspace open. But the playground replace the workspace and all the doc will be updated to refers to the Playground. Almost everything you could do on a Workspace can be done in the Playground. If you follow Pharo By Example you might have some difficulties with Pharo 4 because PBE was for Pharo 1. We are updating it to Pharo 4 but that takes time. You can find a version here : https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/UpdatedPharoByExample… But keep in mind that it's not finish. On 24 May 2015 at 17:14, Daniel Roe <roedj(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I am a complete noob when it comes to Smalltalk. I have chosen both Squeak > and Pharo to learn this language. I am doing so just for my own knowledge > and to try and keep my aging brain active. I may choose down the road to > concentrate on one of the Smalltalk variants but right now I'm going to go > with both. > > My question: All of the documentation refers to a Workspace. Sqeak has one > but all I find in Pharo is the Playground. Does the Playground serve as the > Pharo Workspace? > > Thanks for your time, > > Dan -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Is the Playground the Workspace?

by Serge Stinckwich

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Roe <roedj(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I am a complete noob when it comes to Smalltalk. I have chosen both Squeak > and Pharo to learn this language. I am doing so just for my own knowledge > and to try and keep my aging brain active. I may choose down the road to > concentrate on one of the Smalltalk variants but right now I'm going to go > with both. > > My question: All of the documentation refers to a Workspace. Sqeak has one > but all I find in Pharo is the Playground. Does the Playground serve as the > Pharo Workspace? Yes, this is a more elaborate Workspace. -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

May 24, 2015

Is the Playground the Workspace?

by Daniel Roe

I am a complete noob when it comes to Smalltalk. I have chosen both Squeak and Pharo to learn this language. I am doing so just for my own knowledge and to try and keep my aging brain active. I may choose down the road to concentrate on one of the Smalltalk variants but right now I'm going to go with both. My question: All of the documentation refers to a Workspace. Sqeak has one but all I find in Pharo is the Playground. Does the Playground serve as the Pharo Workspace? Thanks for your time, Dan

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Guillermo Polito

Now, is pier evolving? because i'd also accept a solution where either - pier extends pillar to use @ - pier uses a freezed version of pillar and new releases of pillar are not backward compatible El dom., 24 de may. de 2015 a la(s) 11:38 a. m., Norbert Hartl < norbert(a)hartl.name> escribiÃ³: > Am 23.05.2015 um 17:59 schrieb Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>: > > This might be a case where is reasonable for both to be valid: > @ for backward compatibility > # for compatibility with internet conventions > > > Agreed, if there isn't special semantics for @ in pillar then it should be > changed. It is less confusing and less error prone using #. > > Norbert > > cheers -ben > > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi. >> We used '@' because Pier used it this way. I'm afraid that if we >> change the character that will break Pier. >> But if you write *Chapter 1>../Chapter1/chapter1.pillar@cha:chapter1* >> and export in HTML you'll get >> <a href="../Chapter1/chapter1.html#cha:chapter1"> I. Chapter 1 </a> >> >> On 23 May 2015 at 08:44, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> > Cyril, >> > >> > Am 22.05.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com >> >: >> > >> > The second main change is the Internal Links. >> > Now when you want to reefer to an anchor, a figure or a script you'll >> > need to use *@anchor* instead of *anchor*. >> > I'm sorry for that but that's the easiest way to implement the >> > inter-files links. >> > >> > >> > why @? It is about links and how to point to a fragment inside a >> resource. >> > This already exists and is called fragment identifier >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragment_identifier >> > >> > You do it by using # the separate the resource and the fragment in an >> URI. >> > >> > '../chapters/chapter1.pillar#section1' >> > >> > is complete valid URI and the way to go. Can you change that? >> > >> > Norbert >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> > >

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 23.05.2015 um 17:59 schrieb Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>: > > This might be a case where is reasonable for both to be valid: > @ for backward compatibility > # for compatibility with internet conventions Agreed, if there isn't special semantics for @ in pillar then it should be changed. It is less confusing and less error prone using #. Norbert > cheers -ben > > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi. > We used '@' because Pier used it this way. I'm afraid that if we > change the character that will break Pier. > But if you write *Chapter 1>../Chapter1/chapter1.pillar@cha:chapter1* > and export in HTML you'll get > <a href="../Chapter1/chapter1.html#cha:chapter1"> I. Chapter 1 </a> > > On 23 May 2015 at 08:44, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > > Cyril, > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>>: > > > > The second main change is the Internal Links. > > Now when you want to reefer to an anchor, a figure or a script you'll > > need to use *@anchor* instead of *anchor*. > > I'm sorry for that but that's the easiest way to implement the > > inter-files links. > > > > > > why @? It is about links and how to point to a fragment inside a resource. > > This already exists and is called fragment identifier > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragment_identifier <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragment_identifier> > > > > You do it by using # the separate the resource and the fragment in an URI. > > > > '../chapters/chapter1.pillar#section1' > > > > is complete valid URI and the way to go. Can you change that? > > > > Norbert > > > > > > -- > Cheers > Cyril Ferlicot > >

May 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Lectures in africa :)

by Alexandre Bergel

Excellent! Thanks to share this impressive effort with us cheers, Alexandre > On May 24, 2015, at 7:47 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi guys > > I m back to europe after one week to senegal. > There I gave lectures to Dakar 3 h > OO advanced design > seaside > and met Pr. Alassane Bah an old Smalltalker that is eager to push Pharo. > I gave him my lectures and we will see what we will do. > > Then at Saint-Louis I gave lectures two times 3 h. > They want to have an advanced oop lectures. > > Students loved it. > > I gave a presentation of Pharo to all the reseach group leader of the LIRIMA a lab join with inria and several countries. > People from Yaounde want to do something with Pharo :) > > So be ready to get newbies soon. > > Stef > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 24, 2015