May 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Not Pharo related - how does one respond to a message

by Alain Rastoul

Le 24/05/2015 18:50, Daniel Roe a Ã©crit : > > > > Please allow me this one non-Pharo message. I am not that familiar with these message boards. When I see a message that I want to respond to how do I do that? I've been going to my email program - hotmail - and pasting in the subject line - copying and pasting any text that I want to include in my reply - writing a reply and then sending it. I can't believe that there's now a much more efficient way to do this. > > Enlighten me, please. > > Dan > > > Hi Dan, This is a mailing list, you can use your email client (web or not) to respond, but there are also some mailing list to newsgroup gateways, like gmane -that I use-, who allows you to simply subscribe to this "newsgroup" with your favorite email client (outlook, thunderbird or other) and get a newsgroup threaded interface. Registering the newsgroup server in your email client depends of your client. You should probably find it under add account menu of your email client, select newsgroup, fill the newsgroup server address (example new.gsmane.org, port 119) and select the groups you want to subscribe to (gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.pharo.user here). Using your email client, you will find the process much more easy and user friendly, you can select lines you want to include in your response for example. Note: there is a little delay with the gateway (few minutes) and the first time you will have to confirm your post to the server (only the first time). HTH, -- Regards, Alain

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Not Pharo related - how does one respond to a message

by Ben Coman

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Daniel Roe <roedj(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Please allow me this one non-Pharo message. I am not that familiar with > these message boards. When I see a message that I want to respond to how do > I do that? I've been going to my email program - hotmail - and pasting in > the subject line - copying and pasting any text that I want to include in > my reply - writing a reply and then sending it. I can't believe that > there's now a much more efficient way to do this. > > Enlighten me, please. > > Dan > Saying "message board" and "going to my email program to post" makes me think you are using some web interface (which one?). Technically, this is a "mailing list" and the primary interface to *read* *and* *respond* to posts is your email client. The web interfaces are secondary methods, though some people prefer them for the threaded interface, although at least gmail also does this now. Are you not receiving direct emails? You can log on here [1] to check your delivery options. [1] http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org cheers -ben

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Lectures in africa :)

by stepharo

Thanks. (I learned that I got allergic to nti-malaria pills :( ) I'm preparing more actions with Serge Stinckwich. :) SciSmalltalk is important there and system like HoneyGinger are definitively cool to have for people performing system modeling. Helping porting Cormas to Pharo is also an important move. Seaside and all its ecosystem is definitively important. Stef > This is a fantastic effort! > > Thanks a lot, > Doru > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Sergio Fedi <sergio.fedi(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sergio.fedi@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Awesome! > > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: > > Excellent! > Thanks to share this impressive effort with us > > cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On May 24, 2015, at 7:47 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > Hi guys > > > > I m back to europe after one week to senegal. > > There I gave lectures to Dakar 3 h > > OO advanced design > > seaside > > and met Pr. Alassane Bah an old Smalltalker that is eager to > push Pharo. > > I gave him my lectures and we will see what we will do. > > > > Then at Saint-Louis I gave lectures two times 3 h. > > They want to have an advanced oop lectures. > > > > Students loved it. > > > > I gave a presentation of Pharo to all the reseach group > leader of the LIRIMA a lab join with inria and several countries. > > People from Yaounde want to do something with Pharo :) > > > > So be ready to get newbies soon. > > > > Stef > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] PBE - Updated - section 2.10 System Browser

by stepharo

Hi daniel If you want to get up to speed fast in Pharo take Pharo by example and its associated image. Then you simply us Pharo 40. A class browser often looks like a class browser so pay attention not to get stuck in details. Stef Le 25/5/15 02:43, Daniel Roe a Ã©crit : > I am running Pharo 4.0, I think. I go to section 2.10 of the updated > PBE (claimed to be for Pharo 4.0) which deals with The System Browser. > I click on the background and get the World menu - I click on System > Browser and get Nautilus instead of the System Browser (???). OK, so I > search around and eventually find my way to printString. > > Two questions: > 1) What is Nautilus - did I miss something here?, and > > 2) What are the shaded right facing triangles pointing to various menu > entries trying to tell me? > > I tried to warn you - get ready for just a truck load of noobie questions. > > Dan

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Cyril Ferlicot

No problem! Think like this happen easily. Yeah that's right. I think I know where is the error. I'll correct that tomorrow if I have time. Thank you for your feedback! On 25 May 2015 at 04:03, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Aah silly me, I still had the old version of Pillar. Many apologies! > > Now it works, but I found a bug: do a find for âshown in Section 5.3.3â in the same html file. The section title there is V.3.C. So it should say âshown in Section V.3.C.â, right? > >> On May 24, 2015, at 22:17, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> 2 possibility: >> - You have an old version of Pillar >> - You check the wrong file. >> >> With the version 0.47 of Pillar we changed the way files was generated. >> Before if you had a file foo.pillar exported foo.pillar.html >> but since the version 0.47 you get foo.html only. >> >> So check if you have a file "Fuel.html" and if you don't have it just >> execute ./download.sh before the ./compile.sh >> >> You should get that : >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/EnterprisePharoBook/l… >> >> :) > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Johan Fabry

Aah silly me, I still had the old version of Pillar. Many apologies! Now it works, but I found a bug: do a find for âshown in Section 5.3.3â in the same html file. The section title there is V.3.C. So it should say âshown in Section V.3.C.â, right? > On May 24, 2015, at 22:17, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > 2 possibility: > - You have an old version of Pillar > - You check the wrong file. > > With the version 0.47 of Pillar we changed the way files was generated. > Before if you had a file foo.pillar exported foo.pillar.html > but since the version 0.47 you get foo.html only. > > So check if you have a file "Fuel.html" and if you don't have it just > execute ./download.sh before the ./compile.sh > > You should get that : > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/EnterprisePharoBook/l… > > :) ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Garage and SQLite file databases, general project structure

by Ben Coman

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I wanted in general to have a single easy-to-learn way to build a database > connection string for all drivers. > > [driverid]://[host][:port]/[databasename]?[properties] > > I bumped into an interesting app "SQL Workbench/J" [1] that lists URL connection strings for about 20 databases. I've extracted this mostly for curiousity (since we'll probably not support most of these), but it might be useful for their formats to be possible. Not sure how canonical these are or specific to the SQL Workbench application. Adabas -- jdbc:adabasd://servername/name_of_database Apache Derby Embedded -- jdbc:monetdb://(hostname)/(database) Apache Derby Network Client -- jdbc:derby://(hostname):1527/(database) Cubrid -- jdbc:cubrid:serverhost:33000:databasename EnterpriseDB -- jdbc:edb://servername:port/database FirebirdSQL -- jdbc:firebirdsql://host:port/name_of_database H2 Databse Engine -- jdbc:h2:/path/to/database HSQLDB -- jdbc:hsqldb:full_path_to_database IBM DB2 -- jdbc:db2://server_name:50000/database_name IBM BD2 UDB for AS/400 (iSeries) -- jdbc:as400://server_name/database_name Informix -- jdbc:informix-sqli://host-name:port-number/dbName:INFORMIXSERVER=serverName jTDS -- jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://serverName[:port][/;databaseName] MaxDB -- jdbc:sapdb://hostname[:port]/database_name Microsoft Access JDBC Driver --jdbc:ucanaccess://c:/path/to/database.mdb MySQL -- jdbc:mysql://hostname:port/name_of_database NuoDB -- jdbc:com.nuodb://localhost/test Oracle -- jdbc:oracle:thin:@hostname:port:sid Pervasive PSQL -- jdbc:pervasive://(hostname):(port)/(database) PostgreSQL -- jdbc:postgresql://host:port/name_of_database SQL Server 2005 -- jdbc:sqlserver://serverName[\instanceName][:portNumber];property=value;property=value Sybase jConnect 6.0 -- jdbc:sybase:Tds:machine-name:port-number Teradata -- jdbc:teradata://DatabaseServerName/Param1,Param2 The ones that caught my eye were: * HSQLDB -- no slashes * Microsoft Access -- file access * SQL Server -- backslash, semicolons, equals * Oracle -- multiple colons and @ symbol * Teradata -- comma btw, With Pharo wanting to appeal to businesses, SQLServer should probably be on the *long* term plan since many businesses are constrained by incumbent SQLServer installations. Documentation for their Tabular Data Stream protocol is apparently here [2]. [1] http://www.sql-workbench.net/downloads.html [2] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee320917(v=sql.105).aspx cheers -ben

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Cyril Ferlicot

Hi, 2 possibility: - You have an old version of Pillar - You check the wrong file. With the version 0.47 of Pillar we changed the way files was generated. Before if you had a file foo.pillar exported foo.pillar.html but since the version 0.47 you get foo.html only. So check if you have a file "Fuel.html" and if you don't have it just execute ./download.sh before the ./compile.sh You should get that : https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/EnterprisePharoBook/l… :) On 25 May 2015 at 03:10, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Cyril, thanks for doing all of this, but now the links seem to be broken, at least for the html export on my machine. :-( I am working on the Fuel chapter, and I see that inter-file links are broken in the first paragraph, and intra-file links are broken e.g. figure 6.1. Example of changes to a class. > > Could you have a look? The pillar file is in github, the Fuel.pillar.html result of ./compile.sh is here: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31426460/Fuel.pillar.html > > Thanks in advance! > >> On May 22, 2015, at 18:12, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I already changed the links on Enterprise Pharo (you can find a table >> with the list of the inter-files links on the README.md) >> >> On last thing for the people who write book for SquareBracketAssociates: >> It would be good to have some conventions, so if you create anchors >> use this form : >> @sec:nameOfSection for a section >> @cha:nameOfTheChapter for a title of chapter >> @fig:nameOfFigure for a figure >> @spt:nameOfTheScript for a script > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar 0.56 : New features, new syntax

by Johan Fabry

Cyril, thanks for doing all of this, but now the links seem to be broken, at least for the html export on my machine. :-( I am working on the Fuel chapter, and I see that inter-file links are broken in the first paragraph, and intra-file links are broken e.g. figure 6.1. Example of changes to a class. Could you have a look? The pillar file is in github, the Fuel.pillar.html result of ./compile.sh is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31426460/Fuel.pillar.html Thanks in advance! > On May 22, 2015, at 18:12, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I already changed the links on Enterprise Pharo (you can find a table > with the list of the inter-files links on the README.md) > > On last thing for the people who write book for SquareBracketAssociates: > It would be good to have some conventions, so if you create anchors > use this form : > @sec:nameOfSection for a section > @cha:nameOfTheChapter for a title of chapter > @fig:nameOfFigure for a figure > @spt:nameOfTheScript for a script ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

May 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] PBE - Updated - section 2.10 System Browser

by Cyril Ferlicot

If you find that something is not clear you can open an issue on the github of UPBE : https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues On 25 May 2015 at 02:55, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nautilus is the Systeme Browser. > Maybe a more experienced smalltalker will be able to explain the name. > > I'm not sure tu understand your second request but I think you talk > about that : http://puu.sh/hZlzN/148ae35f71.png ? > If it's that it's use to develops the categories. > Each class of a Package can be in a specific category (or not). > > It's good to have nooby questions about UPBE because that help us to > know what is wrong or what is missing ! > > On 25 May 2015 at 02:43, Daniel Roe <roedj(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> I am running Pharo 4.0, I think. I go to section 2.10 of the updated PBE >> (claimed to be for Pharo 4.0) which deals with The System Browser. I click >> on the background and get the World menu - I click on System Browser and get >> Nautilus instead of the System Browser (???). OK, so I search around and >> eventually find my way to printString. >> >> Two questions: >> 1) What is Nautilus - did I miss something here?, and >> >> 2) What are the shaded right facing triangles pointing to various menu >> entries trying to tell me? >> >> I tried to warn you - get ready for just a truck load of noobie questions. >> >> Dan > > > > -- > Cheers > Cyril Ferlicot -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

May 25, 2015