May 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Pointer drawing method?

by Laura Risani

I've just came to say i'd found #arrowPrototype. Thanks Ben ! On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there a method that returns a diagonal arrow like the ambient's > pointer? > > > > Best, > > Laura > > I don't know what is "ambient's pointer" - but look on class side of > LineMorph and PolygonMorph. > cheers -ben > >

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pointer drawing method?

by Ben Coman

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Is there a method that returns a diagonal arrow like the ambient's pointer? > > Best, > Laura I don't know what is "ambient's pointer" - but look on class side of LineMorph and PolygonMorph. cheers -ben

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Some Pharo 4 Getting-Started tips

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, > On 26 May 2015, at 18:16, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> Ben Coman wrote >>> We should at least change the Nautilus title bar to "Nautilus System >>> Browser" (or just "System Browser" ?) >> >> Part of the problem is that we have overloaded system categories to package >> code for SCM. System categories should be tags (preferably multiple allowed) >> which offer a logical view of the system. Packages, the POV we show now, are >> orthogonal and much less useful for users. >> >> The other complication is that we have jumped onto the fad now to have cool >> names for all software projects which offer no guidance as to what the code >> actually does - a la Ruby, Sinatra, Rails. While this mysteriousness may >> generate excitement for the project, it seems far less useful once we >> integrate things in the image. What does/could Nautilus mean to a new user? >> Taking a cue from Mac - the core apps are called Mail, Contacts, Maps, >> Notes; not Sandcastle, Cabana, SkippingStone, and Umbrella ;) At least Opal >> has the word Compiler attached to it! > > Agreed. Also take a cue from Microsoft and their successful > applications (I wonder what they could possibly be uesed for?): > * Word > * SQLServer > * Internet Explorer > * Publisher > * Media Player > > Of course the incumbent players have the luxury of already having an > audience to take the dominant position on the app names. But the > situation is a bit the same for tools delivered by by default with the > standard Image. I disagree with this way. We are not building an OS (regardless the original intentions of smalltalk) and this profusion of names are generating more confusion than benefits, thinking on new users. For me, intention revealing names needs to be applied not just to the methods and classes we code, but also the tools we use. Then, fantasy names are just that, fantasy. In fact, I was planning a couple of sessions to get an idea of how can we do to have the system in a more clear way. Something like: - System Browser (Nautilus) then if we change it it can be - System Browser (GCoder) (Or whatever the name gtools guys are planning). - System Browser (AltBrowser) or whateverâ¦ same for other âmysteriousâ tools like monticello (who can know that monticello is a SCM, as a newbie?). A lot better: - SCM (Monticello) - SCM (Other) etc. Soâ¦ I think is better to change âNautilusâ title to âSystem Browserâ. Esteban > > cheers -ben >

May 26, 2015

Pointer drawing method?

by Laura Risani

Hi all, Is there a method that returns a diagonal arrow like the ambient's pointer? Best, Laura

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Some Pharo 4 Getting-Started tips

by Ben Coman

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Ben Coman wrote >> We should at least change the Nautilus title bar to "Nautilus System >> Browser" (or just "System Browser" ?) > > Part of the problem is that we have overloaded system categories to package > code for SCM. System categories should be tags (preferably multiple allowed) > which offer a logical view of the system. Packages, the POV we show now, are > orthogonal and much less useful for users. > > The other complication is that we have jumped onto the fad now to have cool > names for all software projects which offer no guidance as to what the code > actually does - a la Ruby, Sinatra, Rails. While this mysteriousness may > generate excitement for the project, it seems far less useful once we > integrate things in the image. What does/could Nautilus mean to a new user? > Taking a cue from Mac - the core apps are called Mail, Contacts, Maps, > Notes; not Sandcastle, Cabana, SkippingStone, and Umbrella ;) At least Opal > has the word Compiler attached to it! Agreed. Also take a cue from Microsoft and their successful applications (I wonder what they could possibly be uesed for?): * Word * SQLServer * Internet Explorer * Publisher * Media Player Of course the incumbent players have the luxury of already having an audience to take the dominant position on the app names. But the situation is a bit the same for tools delivered by by default with the standard Image. cheers -ben

May 26, 2015

PBE - Updated -2.8 - overlapping windows

by Daniel Roe

PBE- Updated Section 2.8 This section asks you to open both a Playground and a Transcripts window but wants the Playground window just overlapping the Transcript window. I do that with a Transcript show: 3 + 4 entry in the Playground and, sure enough, a 7 appears in the Transcript window. But... what was the point of asking you to overlap the windows? What have I missed? As an aside, the answers and helpful hints I have received from my questions have been really "helpful". What a concept. Dan

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Some Pharo 4 Getting-Started tips

by Avdi Grimm

I think most of these are already addressed in the updated version. It's just that new users are still pointed to the older version. On Tue, May 26, 2015, 07:04 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Avdi Grimm wrote > > I wrote up some tips here... > > Thanks! I added > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/102 > to incorporate your suggestions. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Some-Pharo-4-Getting-Started-tips-tp4828493p4828605.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal-Woden on mouse events

by Lusa Nicolas

Ok cool, thanks. Nicolas On May 26, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi Lisa, > > I will have a look at it next week (currently away from my computer) > > Alexandre > > > >> Le 26 mai 2015 Ã 10:19, Lusa Nicolas <nicolas.lusa(a)usi.ch> a Ã©crit : >> >> Hi, >> >> until now was working with the interaction on roassal-woden only with the RWMouseButtonDown event, but I would like to distinguish the left from the right click (which right now is not possible, correct me if I am wrong please). >> >> I took a look to the code which is handling the mouse events but it looks like I have to modify classes of roassal-woden itself if I want that to work. >> >> Any hint/tip on how to do it trying not to impact your classes? >> >> Cheers, >> Nicolas

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal-Woden on mouse events

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Lisa, I will have a look at it next week (currently away from my computer) Alexandre > Le 26 mai 2015 Ã 10:19, Lusa Nicolas <nicolas.lusa(a)usi.ch> a Ã©crit : > > Hi, > > until now was working with the interaction on roassal-woden only with the RWMouseButtonDown event, but I would like to distinguish the left from the right click (which right now is not possible, correct me if I am wrong please). > > I took a look to the code which is handling the mouse events but it looks like I have to modify classes of roassal-woden itself if I want that to work. > > Any hint/tip on how to do it trying not to impact your classes? > > Cheers, > Nicolas

May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Some Pharo 4 Getting-Started tips

by Sean P. DeNigris

Avdi Grimm wrote > I wrote up some tips here... Thanks! I added https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/102 to incorporate your suggestions. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-Pharo-4-Getting-Started-tips-tp4828493p4828605.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 26, 2015