March 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Cleaning changes file?

by Marcus Denker

> On 10 Mar 2015, at 07:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Laura, > > You can do that using the expression: > > PharoChangesCondenser condense > > Although that also means you lose the version history of methods inside your image. This is typically not done a lot, maybe for production deploy, maybe for release of Pharo itself. > > Yes, but we need to change that. The artefact on the CI server needs to be the artefact of release. We should not have *anything* of the kind âand a day before release we call Xâ. Because for sure it will be broken. And we waste resources: the changes are the history of the revision control system. The current system has multiple problems: - Why have them *in addition* in a file on disk of everyone even though almost nobody will ever look at them? - We have to maintain two history mechanisms. Hard to explain: âYes, version of a method does not show you the version to committed when you use a new imageâ. WTF? - It does not scale. We clear the history between releases as the .changes get too large. So the practical use of the history is not very high - handling .sources, .changes and .sources is complex and hard to explain - It is *SLOW*. Reading code from .sources/.changes is amazingly slow - The code implementing all this is amazingly bad. Just look at the references to SourceFiles: 44 references, all over the place. Marcus

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Cleaning changes file?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Laura, You can do that using the expression: PharoChangesCondenser condense Although that also means you lose the version history of methods inside your image. This is typically not done a lot, maybe for production deploy, maybe for release of Pharo itself. Sven > On 10 Mar 2015, at 05:49, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Can/should the changes file be somehow cleaned? > How do you recommend doing so? > > Love, > Laura

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Native language support

by Nick Doodka

Hello Marcus. Your patch solves my problem with capital letters. But it raises another trouble - every mouse wheel move or keyboard shortcut like ctrl+key cause next error MessageNotUnderstood:Character>>isArrow. 2015-03-07 12:39 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > I got a mail that suggest a fix: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15085/non-english-character-input > (I have attached it as a file-out, you can just drag-n-drop it on the pharo > desktop) > > We should check if that solves the problem. > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Nick Doodka <nickdoodka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all. >> I would like to use Pharo in my native language (Ukrainian in my case or >> Cyrillic), but I cannot enter some capital letters to Workspace / System >> Browser because it's fails on letters: CapsLock or Shift+<Keys> -> >> [~YGJK"V]. >> That behavior take place only in Pharo ver. 3 and 4. In Pharo 2.0 all >> keys working good! What is wrong? Platform - Windows XP >> >> > > > -- > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org > http://www.marcusdenker.de >

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] textsearch in pharo (was: GSoC mentor assistance for FOSSASIA smalltalk projects please)

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Martin BÃ¤hr's message of 2015-03-10 06:35:00 +0100: > Excerpts from stepharo's message of 2015-03-08 21:06:46 +0100: > > You should have a look at te project made by benjamin Areski because > > with camillo they developed > > a textsearch to searh the entire pharo image fast. > > can you give a link please? > i could not find anything on google. found it: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~BenjA/FullTextSearch thank you! greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

March 10, 2015

textsearch in pharo (was: GSoC mentor assistance for FOSSASIA smalltalk projects please)

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from stepharo's message of 2015-03-08 21:06:46 +0100: > You should have a look at te project made by benjamin Areski because > with camillo they developed > a textsearch to searh the entire pharo image fast. can you give a link please? i could not find anything on google. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

March 10, 2015

Cleaning changes file?

by Laura Risani

Hi all, Can/should the changes file be somehow cleaned? How do you recommend doing so? Love, Laura

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Why `aFileReference asString = aFileReference fullName` is false?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Yo should use #pathString to obtain the full path of the file reference. #asString isn't implemented in FileReference and it's inherited from Object, which delegates it to the default implementation of #printString, which isn't intented to be user friendly, and not for conversion. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-03-09 22:35 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > right, and what's the practical use of that? > > from mobile > >> On 09/03/2015, at 12:14, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> The thing before the @ indicates the kind of file system you are on (there are not just disk based files, but virtual in-memory ones, or in-zip ones). >> >>> On 09 Mar 2015, at 16:06, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: >>> >>> A frequent thing to do is to work with files, so their paths. >>> >>> Take the image directory for example: >>> >>> `FileLocator imageDirectory resolve asString` >>> >>> 1) Whatâs the reason to make `aFileReference asString` to be different to what `aFileReference fullName` answers? >>> >>> 2) Whatâs the practical use of the current answer of `aFileReference asString`? >>> >>> >> >> >

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Why `aFileReference asString = aFileReference fullName` is false?

by Sebastian Sastre

right, and what's the practical use of that? from mobile > On 09/03/2015, at 12:14, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > The thing before the @ indicates the kind of file system you are on (there are not just disk based files, but virtual in-memory ones, or in-zip ones). > >> On 09 Mar 2015, at 16:06, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: >> >> A frequent thing to do is to work with files, so their paths. >> >> Take the image directory for example: >> >> `FileLocator imageDirectory resolve asString` >> >> 1) Whatâs the reason to make `aFileReference asString` to be different to what `aFileReference fullName` answers? >> >> 2) Whatâs the practical use of the current answer of `aFileReference asString`? >> >> > >

March 10, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Fixed tool bar in pharo, similar to the one in Squeak

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Peter, Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Cheers, Offray El 07/03/15 a las 14:07, Peter UhnÃ¡k escribiÃ³: > I'm making some progress with DockingBarMorph, but I can't find how to > delete a particular bar and "World deleteDockingBars." deletes also the > windows taskbar. So there is a way to selective delete a docking bar or if > not to relaunch the only the windows taskbar at the bottom? > > > If you still have the reference to it (i.e. d := DockingBarMorph new.), then you > can simply delete it (d delete.) > > If you do not have the reference, you can iterate over World dockingBars and > find yours, and then delete it (e.g. World dockingBars first delete). > > Also if you just want to delete it by hand, you can shift+middle mouse click on > the docking bar to open halos and close it there. > > Peter >

March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar and GT tools in Pharo4

by Tudor Girba

Hi Stephan, This looks like deja-vu :). Let's have the conversation on the other thread that deals specifically with the issue of fine grained configurations. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > On 07/03/15 10:42, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Ok. I will add a dependency from Pillar-Pharo-Tools to PetitParser core. >> >> Actually, I would rather prefer to create a separate >> ConfigurationOfPillarTools that adds the Pillar-Pharo-Tools and the >> PetitParser dependency. What that be Ok? >> > > No that is not ok. We have groups for that. > > Stephan > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 9, 2015