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Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by Stephan Eggermont

On 31/03/15 07:58, kilon alios wrote: > more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . As a development desktop I recently build a silent 4790K i7 with a Philips 40" UHD. That was about half the price of the mac equivalent. I strongly prefer the mac interface, but this is more similar to the server. The laptops are all macs. Just pragmatic choices. If there had been a 4-core mac-mini with 60Hz 4K, I would have bought that. Stephan

March 31, 2015

DynaCASE

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi Serge, I didn't want to hijack the original thread (more than I've already done), so I made a new one instead. Looks really impressive Peter ! > I put some pictures on my twitter account: > https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich/status/582799867409526784 Thanks! I'll guess I will have to start using twitter now. :) Apparently there is an icon bug when you don't use the Eclipse set of icons. > Yeah, that's my mistake. Thanks for the bugreport. > I'm interested by Petri Nets in order to do Process Mining. > Petri Nets are being developed by my colleague Jan BlizniÄenko ( https://github.com/bliznjan?tab=repositories ) so he may have some more info. I've CCed him. > What kind of process models are you expected to implement ? > Do you plan to draw activity diagrams ? > Right now I'm working on BORM (Business and Object Relation Modeling) http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/borm/ (some of the materials are in Czech, but you can see diagrams in the first link in our current Eclipse-based tool); the following will be DEMO http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/demo/ I can imagine that it wouldn't be that complicated to extend current FSM to have activity diagrams (it's just two extra elements), so if you are interested in that I can look into it. Also I still have to migrate documentation to github so other people can extend it if they want. Thanks! Peter

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by kilon alios

you are not alone. As a matter of fact my iMac's MacOS runs also windows 8 and ubuntu 14 in the Virtualbox VM. I was tempted to install windows as dual boot on my iMac because of a game I really like (Smite) but the temptation has not been strong enough. In any case supporting most platforms is my goal as (I assume) is the goal of most pharoers. Windoom will remain a necessary evil for a long long time. Yes I completely forgot that linux reigns supreme on servers. Makes sense now with the mandatory web dev. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Jan B. <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > Greater surprise for me is that amount of Windows is greater than zero :) > Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one stubborn fool who still uses that > thing :) > > Jan > > > kilon.alios wrote > > more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/quick-poll-which-OS-do-you-use-for-Pharo-tp4816222p48… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by Jan B.

Greater surprise for me is that amount of Windows is greater than zero :) Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one stubborn fool who still uses that thing :) Jan kilon.alios wrote > more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/quick-poll-which-OS-do-you-use-for-Pharo-tp4816222p48… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Uncommon keyboard shortcuts on Windows

by Jan B.

Hi You're right, ctrl+shift+z works, thanks for showing me. Except of select all (which is, however, pretty important to me), there is just a little more of ctrl/alt chaos mentioned by Peter. In code editor part of class browser works both alt and ctrl (like ctrl+b for browse it or ctrl+d for do it), but not in list of packages/classes/protocols/methods, where only alt does, like alt+x,p for remove package. Of course, there isn't any native Windows shortcut for remove package, but it would be nice to be able to use ctrl there, too, to unify it. Another reason for using ctrl is that is is much easily keeping pressed for me, but it may be just me :) And last thing are means of selecting multiple items in class browser. It is standard in Windows to be able to select everything between currently selected element and clicked one when holding shift (which works just fine everywhere), but adding single item to selection also works only with alt, but not ctrl (like in Windows). And this adding single items with ctrl (I mean alt here) does not work at all with classes/protocols/methods, only with packages, but shift-selecting works fine there. This one, however, might not be related to shortcuts. Jan laura wrote > Hi Jan , > > (Under Windows...) > For redoing ctrl+shif+z works fine on Workspace and Class Browser and in > any other place i can remember. > Copy, cut, paste, find, text selecting, moving to previous/next word (not > exactly the same semantics) shortcuts convey Windows ones. Which other > keyboard shortcuts, besides select-all, contradict Windows ones? > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Jan B. < > bliznjan@.cvut > > wrote: >> Best example is redo/do again/invert undo... undo is ctrl+Z (which is >> right), but redo/do again is alt+J, which is something I have never seen >> anywhere, because it is mostly ctrl+Y (microsoft products), ctrl+shift+Z >> (photoshop for windows) or both (google and mozilla products on windows). >> Also, for select all, I have never seen any other shortcut than ctrl+A, >> but >> it is alt+A in Pharo... ctrl+A works only in playground. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Uncommon-keyboard-shortcuts-on-Windows-tp4816205p4816… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 31 mars 2015 08:17, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> a Ã©crit : > > > > On 31 Mar 2015, at 08:05, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > > You didn't ask about desktop (GUI) or server (headless). There probably a lot of people having a server running somewhere. I clicked both options: Mac and Linux > > Me too, for the same reason. Desktop/server linux are two very different profiles. I am using CzntOS 6.6 Linux for both client and server. Can't click twice ;-) I haven't been using OSX anymore because there was always that annoying difference in the environment that was bringing surprises at deployment time. There is a CentOS VM now but still not a first class zeroconf citizen, which I feel is very bad when one sees that CentOS/RHEL is used a *hell of a lot* in the enterprise. I need to work on that. Phil > > >

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 31 Mar 2015, at 08:05, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > You didn't ask about desktop (GUI) or server (headless). There probably a lot of people having a server running somewhere. I clicked both options: Mac and Linux Me too, for the same reason. Desktop/server linux are two very different profiles.

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 31.03.2015 um 07:58 schrieb kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > > more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . > You didn't ask about desktop (GUI) or server (headless). There probably a lot of people having a server running somewhere. I clicked both options: Mac and Linux Norbert > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo users among OSes. > It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five seconds to complete :) > > http://strawpoll.me/4001583 <http://strawpoll.me/4001583> > > Thanks :) > > Peter >

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by Bernat Romagosa

I think that's because we GNU/Linux users tend to reply quicker when asked which OS we use. El dia 31/03/2015 7.58, "kilon alios" <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> va escriure: > more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of >> Pharo users among OSes. >> It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five >> seconds to complete :) >> >> http://strawpoll.me/4001583 >> >> Thanks :) >> >> Peter >> > >

March 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?

by kilon alios

more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo > users among OSes. > It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five > seconds to complete :) > > http://strawpoll.me/4001583 > > Thanks :) > > Peter >

March 31, 2015