March 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 16 Mar 2015, at 19:03, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > > > El 16/03/15 a las 12:09, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: > > [...] > >>> 1. Proper tab-autocompletion: it works, but feels unresponsive compared with the one on Pharo 3. >> >> nothing changed there, so it is just your feeling :) >> >> Esteban >> > > Well, is a feeling so objective that I can record a video of the two behaviours :). On Pharo 3 tab after writing some letters shows a list of possible options containing that letters, on Pharo 4, it inserts a tab, with no auto-completion at all :-/. check your settings, you should have something like this: > > Cheers, > > Offray >

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

El 16/03/15 a las 12:09, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: [...] >> 1. Proper tab-autocompletion: it works, but feels unresponsive compared with the one on Pharo 3. > > nothing changed there, so it is just your feeling :) > > Esteban > Well, is a feeling so objective that I can record a video of the two behaviours :). On Pharo 3 tab after writing some letters shows a list of possible options containing that letters, on Pharo 4, it inserts a tab, with no auto-completion at all :-/. Cheers, Offray

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ExtendedNumberParser now has its own repository

by Werner Kassens

Hi Stefane, i understand, fwiw i have no idea whether that helps Mariano, but in that repository exponentLetters looks like this: ExtendedNumberParser>>exponentLetters "Allow uppercase exponent letter." ^'edqEDQ' werner

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ExtendedNumberParser now has its own repository

by stepharo

too bad I lost my time... I will add a link to it in the smalltalkhub wiki. Now for me www.squeaksource.com is a read only system and Arbitrary precision was not equal to extendedNumberParser. Le 16/3/15 09:21, Werner Kassens a Ã©crit : > On 03/15/2015 09:41 PM, stepharo wrote: >> Hi >> >> I did not want to lose the work of Nicolas Cellier around alternate >> number parsers so I went >> back in Pharo 30 and packaged them as a separate package (may be it was >> already done but I could not find it). > > Hi Stephane, > you can find ExtendedNumberParser in: > http://www.squeaksource.com/ArbitraryPrecisionFl > it is used by the class ArbitraryPrecisionFloat and since > ArbitraryPrecisionFloat is actively held up to date by Nicolas, i'd > guess the same is true for ExtendedNumberParser in this repository. > werner > >

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo4] Please test Pharo4 *now*

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 16 Mar 2015, at 17:39, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > As every year: We can only fix what we know. > > And this means that no, just because *you* think that X and Y obviously needs to be fixed, > it will only be fixed if > a) there is an issue on the issue tracker > b) someone fixes it. > > I should repeat: *Nothing*, even the most obvious or trivial, happens by itself. > > Marcus Maybe it is also important to add that we are talking about bugs, not features. This is not the time for free wheeling discussions about anything, we need help in QA, to finalize the 4.0 release. Please load your code and give it a spin. Sven

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 16 Mar 2015, at 17:41, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Thanks for your tutorials Kilion. They're very valuable. Talking about Pharo 4, I have downloaded and play a little with it, but I feel it lacks two features that are important to me: > > 1. Proper tab-autocompletion: it works, but feels unresponsive compared with the one on Pharo 3. nothing changed there, so it is just your feeling :) Esteban > > 2. Control arrow key to move between words. > > I imagine that this features will be implemented in the final release. By the way, Â¿when it is planed, mid April? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > El 20/02/15 a las 13:46, kilon alios escribiÃ³: >> I made a video tutorial about it here >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNh6VtPy8m4&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof85… >> >> Well Pharo 4 comes with GT tools a new inspector and a new workspace. I am also >> a huge fan of the new Dark Theme. >> >> Using Pharo makes you feel like Neo from The Matrix , you look at the screen , >> realise the power of live coding and you say "WOW" >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBRNqwDPrU >> >> Sure Pharo is far from perfect , it comes with its own kind of annoyances but I >> think its so beautifully unique its hard to resist. >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire up >> pharo 3 with the same codebase.. >> >> i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for it.. >> >> when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where should >> i look? >> >> my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a side >> project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a >> commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this will >> generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone >> at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are >> getting a good handle on all of it... >> >> to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we >> (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." >> >> On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have >> not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with >> autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. >> >> Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and >> many other new nice things. >> >> There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your >> own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other >> people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. >> >> I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hey, all. >> >> I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. >> >> in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss >> when going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. >> >> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day >> environment? >> >> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >> >> what can i do to help move everything along? >> >> thanks! >> >> >> > >

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Next Pharo sprints

by Marcus Denker

\ > We also hope to plan more informal sprints every other Friday afternoon. > If you have students who are working on (or with) Pharo, it could be > interesting for them to be present (please tell them). > For the private sprints, I do not know how we want them: > - like public sprints but in a small group (bug hunt) > - dedicated to one or several projects of team members > I think this part was meant more for the people in lille. Marcus

March 16, 2015

Next Pharo sprints

by stepharo

Hello, Next public Pharo sprints are now planned: http://pharo.org/news/Pharo-Sprints The next sprint will be on Friday, 3rd April, at Inria Lille. We also hope to plan more informal sprints every other Friday afternoon. If you have students who are working on (or with) Pharo, it could be interesting for them to be present (please tell them). For the private sprints, I do not know how we want them: - like public sprints but in a small group (bug hunt) - dedicated to one or several projects of team members JC

March 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks for your tutorials Kilion. They're very valuable. Talking about Pharo 4, I have downloaded and play a little with it, but I feel it lacks two features that are important to me: 1. Proper tab-autocompletion: it works, but feels unresponsive compared with the one on Pharo 3. 2. Control arrow key to move between words. I imagine that this features will be implemented in the final release. By the way, Â¿when it is planed, mid April? Cheers, Offray El 20/02/15 a las 13:46, kilon alios escribiÃ³: > I made a video tutorial about it here > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNh6VtPy8m4&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof85… > > Well Pharo 4 comes with GT tools a new inspector and a new workspace. I am also > a huge fan of the new Dark Theme. > > Using Pharo makes you feel like Neo from The Matrix , you look at the screen , > realise the power of live coding and you say "WOW" > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBRNqwDPrU > > Sure Pharo is far from perfect , it comes with its own kind of annoyances but I > think its so beautifully unique its hard to resist. > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: > > okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire up > pharo 3 with the same codebase.. > > i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for it.. > > when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where should > i look? > > my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a side > project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a > commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this will > generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone > at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are > getting a good handle on all of it... > > to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we > (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." > > On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com > <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have > not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with > autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. > > Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and > many other new nice things. > > There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your > own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other > people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. > > I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey, all. > > I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. > > in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss > when going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. > > my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day > environment? > > can i use it as a part of my regular development? > > what can i do to help move everything along? > > thanks! > > >

March 16, 2015

[Pharo4] Please test Pharo4 *now*

by Marcus Denker

Hello, As every year: We can only fix what we know. And this means that no, just because *you* think that X and Y obviously needs to be fixed, it will only be fixed if a) there is an issue on the issue tracker b) someone fixes it. I should repeat: *Nothing*, even the most obvious or trivial, happens by itself. Marcus

March 16, 2015