February 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, There could be many reasons why you would have such a big image. The most common reason is the monticello metadata, as Phil said. Another reason could be because some caches and objects that are flushed on snapshot, so if you looked at the image size at runtime and not the file size (for example, the Display object, which is huge, is not in the snapshot, same thing for the AST cache) it is bigger. Another reason is that you may have kept persistent some data that refers to a huge graph of objects / a lot of objects. In the past, it happened to me that I kept errors in a collection to be able to debug them after the program execution (debugging directly the error would crash the image because it was errors in critical processes), but those errors were referencing a huge graph of nodes and after several thousands errors the image was overflowing its 1Gb limit. So what do you keep persistent in your application ? Does it refer to a lot of objects without you knowing it ? 2015-02-03 18:31 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > Try to open monticello and select any repo, right click and clear the > package cache. > > If you are using monticello that is. > > Also close all windows, open a workspace and do the > > 10 timesRepeat: [ Smalltalk garbageCollect]. > > HTH > Phil > Le 3 fÃ©vr. 2015 17:49, "Laura Risani" <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Hi all, >> >> The official image i've downloaded weighted about 40 MB. Now its size is >> about 200 MB. What is the explanation? Is this normal or have i done >> something wrong? >> >> I haven't been using globals, just downloaded and defined some packages. >> The only over persistent thing i've done is to keep an instance variable in >> some classes i wanted to have a unique instance. >> >> >> Best, >> Laura >> >

Feb. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] REST approach?

by olivier auverlot

Zinc + Seaside REST is a very good solution that I use every days ;-) Olivier 2015-02-04 7:13 GMT+01:00 S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com>: > > Seaside REST / Teapot aka Sinatra from Ruby .... hope to push this > framework further > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users < > pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Cameron Sanders <camsanders(a)aol.com> >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:05:21 -0500 >> Subject: REST approach? >> >> Our app runs on Pharo and Gemstone and must continue to do so. We use >> Zinc and Seaside. We require credentialing. >> >> What tools do people recommend using for setting up a REST server? >> Straight Zinc? Any tips? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> Cam >> >> >

Feb. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] REST approach?

by S Krish

Seaside REST / Teapot aka Sinatra from Ruby .... hope to push this framework further On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cameron Sanders via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Cameron Sanders <camsanders(a)aol.com> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:05:21 -0500 > Subject: REST approach? > > Our app runs on Pharo and Gemstone and must continue to do so. We use Zinc > and Seaside. We require credentialing. > > What tools do people recommend using for setting up a REST server? > Straight Zinc? Any tips? > > Thanks in advance! > Cam > >

Feb. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

by Cameron Sanders

Do any of your (class/pool variable) singleton instances store data? add a #clearAll or #reset (mySingletonVar := nil) to the class side -- or whatever fits your app -- and do that before that #garbageCollect block. [In fact, put that in some XXXAdmin class] Good Luck, Cam On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:31 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Try to open monticello and select any repo, right click and clear the > package cache. > > If you are using monticello that is. > > Also close all windows, open a workspace and do the > > 10 timesRepeat: [ Smalltalk garbageCollect]. > > HTH > Phil > Le 3 fÃ©vr. 2015 17:49, "Laura Risani" <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > >> Hi all, >> >> The official image i've downloaded weighted about 40 MB. Now its size is >> about 200 MB. What is the explanation? Is this normal or have i done >> something wrong? >> >> I haven't been using globals, just downloaded and defined some packages. >> The only over persistent thing i've done is to keep an instance variable in >> some classes i wanted to have a unique instance. >> >> >> Best, >> Laura >> >

Feb. 4, 2015

REST approach?

by Cameron Sanders

Our app runs on Pharo and Gemstone and must continue to do so. We use Zinc and Seaside. We require credentialing. What tools do people recommend using for setting up a REST server? Straight Zinc? Any tips? Thanks in advance! Cam

Feb. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello review web application

by mikefilonov

> Where you tool takes its input? The tool requires a full URL to mcz package file for both base and target versions. This allows to compare versions on different locations. I attached the screenshot of the form : <http://forum.world.st/file/n4803522/Monticello_Seaside_Review.png> You may easily log in http://review.pharocloud.com/ as there is no registration and stuff (I used Mozilla Persona) so you see the form like in three clicks. > Ok I split this method into one in the superclass and one in the > superclass. This is one of the reasons why my tool requires full URL for both base and target - so it is not restricted only to ancestor comparing. With Monticello Seaside Review you can compare v43 with v46, which could be the final version of you change. > What I would love is to bind it with epicea. The users can comment the Sorry, but I did not quite get the idea. Could you please describe a use case how Epicea is used in a development process? Thank you, Mike -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Monticello-review-web-application-tp4803443p4803522.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 4, 2015

wsdl webservice from pharo

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

Hi all, i need to know if it is possible to consume a wsdl webservice from pharo. It is very easy using python and suds but i want to consume the webservice directly from pharo. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 San Miguel de TucumÃ¡n Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

Feb. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] spotter preview

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed, we will certainly add tooltips. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The keybindings are: >> - trigger Spotter with Shift+Enter. >> - toggle preview with Cmd+P (or Alt+P on Windows/Linux) >> > > It would be great to have all the keybindings (also moving inside the > Spotter) written somewhere in one place (for all platforms) so one doesn't > need to go scavenge blogs and source code for them. > And also as someone pointed out during Pharo Days... to have tooltips > above the buttons showing the shortcut. > > But I love this thing... you always add something cool. :) > > Peter > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Feb. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

by Andrei Chis

GTDebugger can be loaded and works in Pharo 4. As Marcus said the UI still needs a few more iterations. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Craig <craig(a)hivemind.net> wrote: > Ahh Ok â I looked for the debugger and when I didnât find it, I assumed > that none of the toolkit was there. > > > > Sorry to bother. > > > > Craig > > > > *From:* Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On > Behalf Of *Marcus Denker > *Sent:* 03 February 2015 09:56 PM > *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit > > > > > > On 03 Feb 2015, at 20:50, Craig <craig(a)hivemind.net> wrote: > > > > Anybody got any ideas if and when GToolkit will be available on Pharo 4? > > > > > > We are shipping with it since some time before christmas. >

Feb. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit

by Craig

Ahh Ok â I looked for the debugger and when I didnât find it, I assumed that none of the toolkit was there. Sorry to bother. Craig From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker Sent: 03 February 2015 09:56 PM To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GToolkit On 03 Feb 2015, at 20:50, Craig <craig(a)hivemind.net> wrote: Anybody got any ideas if and when GToolkit will be available on Pharo 4? We are shipping with it since some time before christmas.

Feb. 3, 2015