February 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Git (gitfiletree) on Pharo vs Windows

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Jan, ok, the latest cod for GitFileTree is available on a dedicated branch on filetree. The way to load it is: Metacello new baseline: 'FileTree'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/filetree:issue_142/repository'; load: 'Git' It rely on OSProcess, and I'm not entirely sure of OSProcess on windows, but I've simplified the commands, in part to ease an eventual Windows support. So, if you happen to be able to test? I would suggest pharo3.0 as your platform. I think changes to filetree to handle pharo4.0 are still on a separate branch. Thierry le 21/02/2015 13:19, Jan B. a Ã©crit : > Hello > > We are moving our project from smalltalkhub to github. Gitfiletree seems to > be working as expected on linux, but there are some of us (well, me) who > would like to contribute from Windows, but I am unable to make it working > (which is, of course, also "as expected" :) ). > > What do I have: > > Windows 7 64bit > Pharo 4 (#40496) > Pharo VM for win, tried both stable (371 from 2014-09-25) and latest (410 > from 2015-02-17) > git version 1.9.5.msysgit.0 > > What did I try: > > 1) using Git for Windows from http://git-scm.com/downloads > 2) cloning our project into ~/Pharo/repo (this created folder structure > ~/Pharo/repo/dynacase/repository where all package folders are, along with > .git folder in ~Pharo/repo/dynacase > 3) downloading clean Pharo 4 platform > 4) running from playground (tried both MetaRepoForPharo40 and 30): > Gofer new > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main'; > configurationOf: 'GitFileTree'; > loadDevelopment. > 5) this step I tried only once in few tries: updating all OSProcess and > CommandShell packages to latest commits > 6) adding repository to Monticello, selected gitfiletree://, selected folder > ~/Pharo/repo/dynacase/repository , OK > > Result was being swamped by exceptions every time. > When I did step 5, I got different exceptions and, also, windows command > line has opened (but "empty", ie. like if I opened it myself in folder with > Pharo.exe and left like that) > > Only thing that worked for me was adding this local repository as regular > filetree (not gitfiletree), commiting there, and than commiting same thing > once again with git via command line (or git bash). > > I would like to ask for help with making it work somehow better. > > Here are saved images from moments when I confirmed adding gitfiletree > repository with those mentioned exceptions and errors: > https://www.mediafire.com/folder/879qs8srf5ice/PharoGitConfigs > (30 = using MetaRepoForPharo30, 40 = using MetaRepoForPharo40, latest = > using MetaRepoForPharo40 + loading latest packages) > > Thank you > Jan BlizniÄenko > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Git-gitfiletree-on-Pharo-vs-Windows-tp4806791.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by stepharo

I should have said as early as possible :) Le 21/2/15 15:11, kilon alios a Ã©crit : > I see , good advise,I will try to keep it in mind next time , thanks > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com > <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: > > I guess he means "fast" = "soon". Don't talk too long at a static > screen. video ==> motion ==> interest. > cheers -ben > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:08 PM, kilon alios > <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Can you rephrase that Stef ? I dont understand what you > trying to say. > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:02 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > Cool > Videos are really important. > Kilon just one little feedback, pay attention to get > something moving fast on the screen. > > Stef > > Le 20/2/15 19:46, kilon alios a Ã©crit : >> I made a video tutorial about it here >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNh6VtPy8m4&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof85… >> >> Well Pharo 4 comes with GT tools a new inspector and a >> new workspace. I am also a huge fan of the new Dark Theme. >> >> Using Pharo makes you feel like Neo from The Matrix , you >> look at the screen , realise the power of live coding and >> you say "WOW" >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBRNqwDPrU >> >> Sure Pharo is far from perfect , it comes with its own >> kind of annoyances but I think its so beautifully unique >> its hard to resist. >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM, sergio_101 >> <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not >> that big deal to fire up pharo 3 with the same codebase.. >> >> i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i >> will go look for it.. >> >> when you mention the other nice things, where can i >> find them? where should i look? >> >> my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) >> is working on a side project during lunch >> presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a >> commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. >> .hopefully this will generate 6 new converts into the >> fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone at first.. >> but during our meetings, things get cleared up and >> people are getting a good handle on all of it... >> >> to the point that during regular work, i am starting >> to hear "i wish we (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST >> goodness) here.." >> >> On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios >> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, >> its very stable I have not experienced any kind >> of problem with it except one with autocompletion >> when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas >> project. >> >> Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for >> GTSpotter alone and many other new nice things. >> >> There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) >> document d) make your own tools and share them >> with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other >> people so we can grow as a community and the list >> goes on and on. >> >> I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my >> happiest hour :) >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 >> <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hey, all. >> >> I had an hour last night to start playing >> with pharo 4. >> >> in the hour that played with it, there are >> already features i miss when going back to >> pharo 3 for getting work done. >> >> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be >> useable in a day to day environment? >> >> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >> >> what can i do to help move everything along? >> >> thanks! >> >> >> > > > >

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Video presentation of Rewrite Tool

by Mark Rizun

Thank you all, I really appreciate this :) 2015-02-21 18:41 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Mark Rizun wrote > > Video presentation of Rewrite Tool: http://screencast.com/t/LCEl0hFl > > ... > > Please, I need your feedback on tool, so download it and try to use it. > > WOW!! A++ on the tool and the screencast :) > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Video-presentation-of-Rewrite-Tool-tp4806789p4806802.… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Any static web site generators for pharo with bootstrap support?

by Hilaire

Emacs + .shtml Le 21/02/2015 01:46, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas a Ã©crit : > Hi all, > > I'm planning to make a web site. Nothing fancy, just a web site for > the grafoscopio project I have told you about already. I started to > use Nikola blog engine[1], but, after a while I thought I want to try > something else, something that can create static web sites like > Nikola, but with more interactive feedback and made in Smalltalk. I > have found Bootstrap for Seaside [2], but I don't want the "Seaside" > part in the sense that I don't want to create any behaviour served by > Seaside or configure any server for that matter, just to put some > Smalltalk code that produces static html powered by boostrap and put > it under distributed source control management, like I do now with my > blog. There is something like that in Pharo/Smalltalk or any approach > you suggest me to make it happen fluidly? > > [1] http://getnikola.com/ > [2] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/Bootstrap > > Thanks, > > Offray > > -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

Feb. 21, 2015

If you want to flex your brain and do useful stuff for the world in Smalltalk

by Yuriy Tymchuk

http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Reports:Tasks_not_implemented_in_Smalltalk

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Video presentation of Rewrite Tool

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mark Rizun wrote > Video presentation of Rewrite Tool: http://screencast.com/t/LCEl0hFl > ... > Please, I need your feedback on tool, so download it and try to use it. WOW!! A++ on the tool and the screencast :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Video-presentation-of-Rewrite-Tool-tp4806789p4806802.… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

by stepharo

yes and I would love to see that documented in the chapter :) Le 11/2/15 09:54, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : > implementing the ident/dedent tokens was the most interesting part in > there.

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Video presentation of Rewrite Tool

by Tudor Girba

This is really great work! I will try to take a look at the implementation and give you feedback. Cheers, Doru On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Video presentation of Rewrite Tool: http://screencast.com/t/LCEl0hFl > Also on blog: http://myfuncoding.blogspot.com/ > > Please, I need your feedback on tool, so download it and try to use it. > Any suggestions or questions are welcome! > > Best, > Mark > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Video-presentation-of-Rewrite-Tool-tp4806789.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Git (gitfiletree) on Pharo vs Windows

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Jan, Thanks for your interest and motivation. I have rewritten part of the git commands in gitfiletree in a way which should make it easier to get it to work on windows (and corrected a few bugs). I can't have access to a computer right now, so I'll be able to give you things to try (if you want) a bit later. Thierry Le 21 fÃ©vr. 2015 13:26, "Jan B." <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> a Ã©crit : > Hello > > We are moving our project from smalltalkhub to github. Gitfiletree seems to > be working as expected on linux, but there are some of us (well, me) who > would like to contribute from Windows, but I am unable to make it working > (which is, of course, also "as expected" :) ). > > What do I have: > > Windows 7 64bit > Pharo 4 (#40496) > Pharo VM for win, tried both stable (371 from 2014-09-25) and latest (410 > from 2015-02-17) > git version 1.9.5.msysgit.0 > > What did I try: > > 1) using Git for Windows from http://git-scm.com/downloads > 2) cloning our project into ~/Pharo/repo (this created folder structure > ~/Pharo/repo/dynacase/repository where all package folders are, along with > .git folder in ~Pharo/repo/dynacase > 3) downloading clean Pharo 4 platform > 4) running from playground (tried both MetaRepoForPharo40 and 30): > Gofer new > url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main'; > configurationOf: 'GitFileTree'; > loadDevelopment. > 5) this step I tried only once in few tries: updating all OSProcess and > CommandShell packages to latest commits > 6) adding repository to Monticello, selected gitfiletree://, selected > folder > ~/Pharo/repo/dynacase/repository , OK > > Result was being swamped by exceptions every time. > When I did step 5, I got different exceptions and, also, windows command > line has opened (but "empty", ie. like if I opened it myself in folder with > Pharo.exe and left like that) > > Only thing that worked for me was adding this local repository as regular > filetree (not gitfiletree), commiting there, and than commiting same thing > once again with git via command line (or git bash). > > I would like to ask for help with making it work somehow better. > > Here are saved images from moments when I confirmed adding gitfiletree > repository with those mentioned exceptions and errors: > https://www.mediafire.com/folder/879qs8srf5ice/PharoGitConfigs > (30 = using MetaRepoForPharo30, 40 = using MetaRepoForPharo40, latest = > using MetaRepoForPharo40 + loading latest packages) > > Thank you > Jan BlizniÄenko > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Git-gitfiletree-on-Pharo-vs-Windows-tp4806791.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Feb. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by kilon alios

I see , good advise,I will try to keep it in mind next time , thanks On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > I guess he means "fast" = "soon". Don't talk too long at a static screen. > video ==> motion ==> interest. > cheers -ben > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:08 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Can you rephrase that Stef ? I dont understand what you trying to say. >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:02 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Cool >>> Videos are really important. >>> Kilon just one little feedback, pay attention to get something moving >>> fast on the screen. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 20/2/15 19:46, kilon alios a Ã©crit : >>> >>> I made a video tutorial about it here >>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNh6VtPy8m4&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof85… >>> >>> Well Pharo 4 comes with GT tools a new inspector and a new workspace. I >>> am also a huge fan of the new Dark Theme. >>> >>> Using Pharo makes you feel like Neo from The Matrix , you look at the >>> screen , realise the power of live coding and you say "WOW" >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBRNqwDPrU >>> >>> Sure Pharo is far from perfect , it comes with its own kind of >>> annoyances but I think its so beautifully unique its hard to resist. >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire >>>> up pharo 3 with the same codebase.. >>>> >>>> i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for >>>> it.. >>>> >>>> when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where >>>> should i look? >>>> >>>> my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a >>>> side project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will >>>> be a commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this >>>> will generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for >>>> everyone at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and >>>> people are getting a good handle on all of it... >>>> >>>> to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish >>>> we (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." >>>> >>>> On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I >>>>> have not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with >>>>> autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. >>>>> >>>>> Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and >>>>> many other new nice things. >>>>> >>>>> There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make >>>>> your own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to >>>>> other people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. >>>>> >>>>> I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss >>>>>> when going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. >>>>>> >>>>>> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day >>>>>> environment? >>>>>> >>>>>> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >>>>>> >>>>>> what can i do to help move everything along? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >

Feb. 21, 2015