December 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

On 12/03/2015 06:30 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 03-12-15 09:34, Robert Withers wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> >> Yes, my bailing on a more standard squeak project distribution solution >> is due to a few factors... >> >> 1 - environment confusion between Pharo and Squeak. I choose squeak due >> it is the native VMMaker and vm Dev environment. >> 2 - in squeak, the Cryptography and SqueakSource projects are >> inaccessible to me, as I can't reset my access. >> 3 - I haven't figured out next-gen git-based solutions. Prefer 1 file >> per class git mgmt but whatever. MCZs in git's fine but I chose to limit >> admin tasks and drive some actual coding in my time mgmt. >> >> I think these cover my choices. I do like dropbox cloud storage lots. >> >> What is the recommended squeak environmental solution? Is it a >> SqueakSource project? Which MCZ storage solution would be best? Thank >> you. > > Hi Robert, > > We do not have a way to incorporate dropbox storage into our > continuous integration process (and AFAIK don't currently plan to add > it). We strongly prefer getting code in a way that can be handled > automatically. Please use one of the supported platforms: > - squeaksource > - ss3 > - smalltalkhub > By asking in the squeak mailing list you should be able to have your > access reset. Alternatively, you can create an account on ss3 or > smalltalkhub. > Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the right move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. - Robert > Stephan > >

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Johan Fabry

> > But as class Breakpoint has a list of all active breakpoints, we add a browseAll method there > easily. > > > Thanks, that would be a useful addition to easily locate breakpoints. This has been integrated in the mean time: have a look at Breakpoint class>>browseAll > Finally I found how to reproduce it, if you open a Nautilus browser, set a breakpoint in a method, then left-click another method focus is lost and code pane seems to double-refresh to finally display the class definition. > > But this happens also if you right-click a method to display menu, do nothing, then click another method. So it's a Nautilus problem. If nobody reported it before I will open a case tomorrow. I concur that it is a Nautilus problem. So I guess you should add a bug report. Here are steps to reproduce both cases you mention: 1 have a method selected 2 bring up context menu on that method 3 donât select anything OR add a breakpoint OR File out OR (I stopped trying out options at this point) 4 click on other method Note that you did not include step 1 but it is required. ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] #storeOn: question

by Werner Kassens

Hi Stephane, there are 89 senders of #storeOn: minus around 30 implementations of #storeOn: minus around 10 tests, also things like the PharoChangesCondenser use it. then there are 26 senders of #storeString (essentially the same functionality implemented via #storeOn:, but returns a string) eg used by the StartupPreferencesLoader. and there are several senders of #store: that are not implementations of #storeOn:. iow deprecating #storeOn: looks a bit complicated to me and is obviously way above my head. werner On 11/30/2015 09:42 PM, stepharo wrote: > It would be good to check who is using that and evaluate if we can > remove it.

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Stephan Eggermont

On 03-12-15 09:34, Robert Withers wrote: > Hi Stef, > > Yes, my bailing on a more standard squeak project distribution solution > is due to a few factors... > > 1 - environment confusion between Pharo and Squeak. I choose squeak due > it is the native VMMaker and vm Dev environment. > 2 - in squeak, the Cryptography and SqueakSource projects are > inaccessible to me, as I can't reset my access. > 3 - I haven't figured out next-gen git-based solutions. Prefer 1 file > per class git mgmt but whatever. MCZs in git's fine but I chose to limit > admin tasks and drive some actual coding in my time mgmt. > > I think these cover my choices. I do like dropbox cloud storage lots. > > What is the recommended squeak environmental solution? Is it a > SqueakSource project? Which MCZ storage solution would be best? Thank you. Hi Robert, We do not have a way to incorporate dropbox storage into our continuous integration process (and AFAIK don't currently plan to add it). We strongly prefer getting code in a way that can be handled automatically. Please use one of the supported platforms: - squeaksource - ss3 - smalltalkhub By asking in the squeak mailing list you should be able to have your access reset. Alternatively, you can create an account on ss3 or smalltalkhub. Stephan

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite

by Blondeau Vincent

Hi, It is a known bugâ¦ To bypass it, you should refresh the Smalltalk page or restart your browser. Regards, Vincent De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Sabine Manaa EnvoyÃ© : jeudi 3 dÃ©cembre 2015 10:51 Ã : pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite Hi, great news! I got this screen when clicking on the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xr3ll4cl7epyf50/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2011.04.3… (Debugger with "Nil does not understand data") Regards Sabine 2015-12-03 9:52 GMT+01:00 Olivier Auverlot [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864890&i=0>>: > Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the us Yes, it's now the goal :-). 2015-12-03 9:41 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Larcheveque <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=0>>: I used it and it's more than a WiP. It is completely usable and there is examples and demos. Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the use but all MDL components as google provide it are implemented. 2015-12-03 9:32 GMT+01:00 olivier auverlot <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=1>>: Hi, Kevin and me have worked this summer on a port of Material Design Lite for Seaside. It's a work in progress but we think that someone could be interested to use and improve our work. http://www.getmdl.io/ http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite Best regards Olivier -- Guillaume Larcheveque ________________________________ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864884.html To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864890&i=1> To unsubscribe from Pharo Smalltalk Users, click here. NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> ________________________________ View this message in context: Re: Material Design Lite<http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864890.html> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive<http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com. ________________________________ Ce message et les piÃ¨ces jointes sont confidentiels et rÃ©servÃ©s Ã l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut Ã©galement Ãªtre protÃ©gÃ© par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immÃ©diatement l'expÃ©diteur et de le dÃ©truire. L'intÃ©gritÃ© du message ne pouvant Ãªtre assurÃ©e sur Internet, la responsabilitÃ© de Worldline ne pourra Ãªtre recherchÃ©e quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expÃ©diteur ne donne aucune garantie Ã cet Ã©gard et sa responsabilitÃ© ne saurait Ãªtre recherchÃ©e pour tout dommage rÃ©sultant d'un virus transmis. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite

by Sabine Manaa

Thanks, loaded it now. My first impression ist: great! I will test it for my project now. 2015-12-03 11:05 GMT+01:00 Blondeau Vincent [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4864892h47(a)n4.nabble.com>: > Hi, > > > > It is a known bugâ¦ To bypass it, you should refresh the Smalltalk page or > restart your browser. > > > > Regards, > > Vincent > > > > *De :* Pharo-users [mailto:[hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864892&i=0>] *De la part de* > Sabine Manaa > *EnvoyÃ© :* jeudi 3 dÃ©cembre 2015 10:51 > *Ã :* [hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864892&i=1> > *Objet :* Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite > > > > Hi, > > > > great news! > > > > I got this screen when clicking on the link: > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/xr3ll4cl7epyf50/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2011.04.3… > > > > (Debugger with "Nil does not understand data") > > > > Regards > > Sabine > > > > 2015-12-03 9:52 GMT+01:00 Olivier Auverlot [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864890&i=0>>: > > > Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the us > > > > Yes, it's now the goal :-). > > > > > > > > 2015-12-03 9:41 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Larcheveque <[hidden email] > <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=0>>: > > I used it and it's more than a WiP. It is completely usable and there is > examples and demos. > > > > Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the use but > all MDL components as google provide it are implemented. > > > > 2015-12-03 9:32 GMT+01:00 olivier auverlot <[hidden email] > <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=1>>: > > Hi, > > > > Kevin and me have worked this summer on a port of Material Design Lite for > Seaside. It's a work in progress but we think that someone could be > interested to use and improve our work. > > > > http://www.getmdl.io/ > > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite > > > > Best regards > > Olivier > > > > > > -- > > *Guillaume Larcheveque* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below:* > > http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864884.html > > To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email [hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864890&i=1> > To unsubscribe from Pharo Smalltalk Users, click here. > NAML > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > View this message in context: Re: Material Design Lite > <http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864890.html> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive > <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------ > > Ce message et les piÃ¨ces jointes sont confidentiels et rÃ©servÃ©s Ã l'usage > exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut Ã©galement Ãªtre protÃ©gÃ© par le secret > professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir > immÃ©diatement l'expÃ©diteur et de le dÃ©truire. L'intÃ©gritÃ© du message ne > pouvant Ãªtre assurÃ©e sur Internet, la responsabilitÃ© de Worldline ne pourra > Ãªtre recherchÃ©e quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs > efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout > virus, l'expÃ©diteur ne donne aucune garantie Ã cet Ã©gard et sa > responsabilitÃ© ne saurait Ãªtre recherchÃ©e pour tout dommage rÃ©sultant d'un > virus transmis. > > This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended > solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this > e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As > its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability > cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours > to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that > this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages > resulting from any virus transmitted. > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864892.html > To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email > ml-node+s1294792n1310670h65(a)n4.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Pharo Smalltalk Users, click here > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864893.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite

by Sabine Manaa

Hi, great news! I got this screen when clicking on the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xr3ll4cl7epyf50/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2011.04.3… (Debugger with "Nil does not understand data") Regards Sabine 2015-12-03 9:52 GMT+01:00 Olivier Auverlot [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4864884h99(a)n4.nabble.com>: > > Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the us > > Yes, it's now the goal :-). > > > > 2015-12-03 9:41 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Larcheveque <[hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=0>>: > >> I used it and it's more than a WiP. It is completely usable and there is >> examples and demos. >> >> Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the use but >> all MDL components as google provide it are implemented. >> >> 2015-12-03 9:32 GMT+01:00 olivier auverlot <[hidden email] >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4864884&i=1>>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Kevin and me have worked this summer on a port of Material Design Lite >>> for Seaside. It's a work in progress but we think that someone could be >>> interested to use and improve our work. >>> >>> http://www.getmdl.io/ >>> >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite >>> >>> Best regards >>> Olivier >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Guillaume Larcheveque* >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864884.html > To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email > ml-node+s1294792n1310670h65(a)n4.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Pharo Smalltalk Users, click here > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Material-Design-Lite-tp4864868p4864890.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite

by olivier auverlot

> Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the us Yes, it's now the goal :-). 2015-12-03 9:41 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Larcheveque < guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com>: > I used it and it's more than a WiP. It is completely usable and there is > examples and demos. > > Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the use but > all MDL components as google provide it are implemented. > > 2015-12-03 9:32 GMT+01:00 olivier auverlot <olivier.auverlot(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> Kevin and me have worked this summer on a port of Material Design Lite >> for Seaside. It's a work in progress but we think that someone could be >> interested to use and improve our work. >> >> http://www.getmdl.io/ >> >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite >> >> Best regards >> Olivier >> > > > > -- > *Guillaume Larcheveque* > >

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Material Design Lite

by Guillaume Larcheveque

I used it and it's more than a WiP. It is completely usable and there is examples and demos. Improve it would be to create upper level components to ease the use but all MDL components as google provide it are implemented. 2015-12-03 9:32 GMT+01:00 olivier auverlot <olivier.auverlot(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Kevin and me have worked this summer on a port of Material Design Lite for > Seaside. It's a work in progress but we think that someone could be > interested to use and improve our work. > > http://www.getmdl.io/ > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~KevinLanvin/MaterialDesignLite > > Best regards > Olivier > -- *Guillaume Larcheveque*

Dec. 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

Hi Stef, Yes, my bailing on a more standard squeak project distribution solution is due to a few factors... 1 - environment confusion between Pharo and Squeak. I choose squeak due it is the native VMMaker and vm Dev environment. 2 - in squeak, the Cryptography and SqueakSource projects are inaccessible to me, as I can't reset my access. 3 - I haven't figured out next-gen git-based solutions. Prefer 1 file per class git mgmt but whatever. MCZs in git's fine but I chose to limit admin tasks and drive some actual coding in my time mgmt. I think these cover my choices. I do like dropbox cloud storage lots. What is the recommended squeak environmental solution? Is it a SqueakSource project? Which MCZ storage solution would be best? Thank you. --- robert > On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:10 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi robert > > thanks but I do not get why you use dropbox and not a project on smalltalkhub? > > Stef > > > Le 1/12/15 17:53, Robert Withers a Ã©crit : >> Pharo Pholks, >> >> Is the spirit of #GivingTuesday, I am publishing my secure session code in progress. Some changes to pharo's internals will allow this there, though I am currently doing my work in Squeak. >> >> Cheers, >> Robert >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon) >> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:44:03 -0500 >> From: Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> >> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org, Discussion of E and other capability languages <e-lang(a)mail.eros-os.org> >> >> Here is a newer version (201) with a protocol change to remove all >> tcpIds from the rendezvous. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7mgfglwu3e4bf4j/SqueakElib-rww.201.mcz?dl=0 >> >> - Robert >> >> On 12/01/2015 07:37 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >> > This version of the Cryptography package has beginnings of ReedSolomon >> > encoding. >> > >> > The rendezvous is separated into an OperationProtocol and a >> > StartupProtocol and the message pipeline of the session layer of >> > SqueakElib has been completely rewritten and LayeredProtocols have >> > been folded in. Please look at ElibVatTPDataTestCase for an example. >> > >> > Cryptography: >> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/z9dux2goimej79e/Cryptography-rww.40.mcz?dl=0 >> > SqueakElib: >> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/5yvkl3df89uyjnh/SqueakElib-rww.200.mcz?dl=0 >> > >> > In the spirit of #GivingTuesday, >> > Robert >> >

Dec. 3, 2015