December 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Stephan Eggermont

On 17-12-15 15:54, Johan Fabry wrote: > > Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? What about jobs that also target older Pharo images? Duplicate the job? Stephan

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Well the problem is PPCompiler not working with Spur (or whatever), not that CI doesn't support Spur. My pharo-contrib job keeps working even with Spur without any change, so once you resolve the PPCompiler (and maybe others) it should work ok. Peter On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > It sais that no tests are run: Latest Test Result(no tests) But I think I found it, the problem is apparently in one of the packages that I load which does not work anymore; the PPCompiler. I will check with the authors of that package. > > ( Here is the URL of the job: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/LiveRobotProgramming/ ) > >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 13:20, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Johan, >> >> what error are you getting? >> Because that script is downloading latest image and vm, which is >> already spur, so the CI should keep working without any changes. >> >> At least my CI job (at pharo-contrib) corrently launches the new image >> with new vm. >> >> Peter >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Cyril Ferlicot >> <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Your build is on Pharo-contribution ? >>> Maybe someone can take a look to see what is wrong :) >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>> >>>> Unfortunately my script is already doing that (except for removing the vm). :-( Anything else I can try or am I stuck until this is fixed upstream? >>>> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:00, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You can use this: >>>>> >>>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash >>>>> >>>>> at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With >>>>> that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. >>>>> >>>>> And at the end: >>>>> >>>>> rm *.image *.changes >>>>> rm -rf pharo-vm >>>>> >>>>> If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>>> >>>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >> >> > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Johan Fabry

It sais that no tests are run: Latest Test Result(no tests) But I think I found it, the problem is apparently in one of the packages that I load which does not work anymore; the PPCompiler. I will check with the authors of that package. ( Here is the URL of the job: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/LiveRobotProgramming/ ) > On Dec 17, 2015, at 13:20, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Johan, > > what error are you getting? > Because that script is downloading latest image and vm, which is > already spur, so the CI should keep working without any changes. > > At least my CI job (at pharo-contrib) corrently launches the new image > with new vm. > > Peter > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Cyril Ferlicot > <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Your build is on Pharo-contribution ? >> Maybe someone can take a look to see what is wrong :) >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately my script is already doing that (except for removing the vm). :-( Anything else I can try or am I stuck until this is fixed upstream? >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:00, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> You can use this: >>>> >>>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash >>>> >>>> at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With >>>> that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. >>>> >>>> And at the end: >>>> >>>> rm *.image *.changes >>>> rm -rf pharo-vm >>>> >>>> If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>>> >>>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>> >>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers >>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Cyril Ferlicot >> > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Adieu, abschied, addio, despedida, afscheid, farvÃ¤l, Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÐ½ÑÐ¹ Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ.

by Volkert

I liked your Medium Articles ... very sad. Thank you. Volkert On 17.12.2015 11:21, Richard Eng wrote: > I bid farewell to everyone. Best of luck to Pharo. > > https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-… > > Cheers, > Richard

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Johan, what error are you getting? Because that script is downloading latest image and vm, which is already spur, so the CI should keep working without any changes. At least my CI job (at pharo-contrib) corrently launches the new image with new vm. Peter On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Your build is on Pharo-contribution ? > Maybe someone can take a look to see what is wrong :) > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately my script is already doing that (except for removing the vm). :-( Anything else I can try or am I stuck until this is fixed upstream? >> >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:00, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You can use this: >>> >>> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash >>> >>> at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With >>> that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. >>> >>> And at the end: >>> >>> rm *.image *.changes >>> rm -rf pharo-vm >>> >>> If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>> >>>> Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? >>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>>> >>>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers > Cyril Ferlicot >

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Cyril Ferlicot

Your build is on Pharo-contribution ? Maybe someone can take a look to see what is wrong :) On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Unfortunately my script is already doing that (except for removing the vm). :-( Anything else I can try or am I stuck until this is fixed upstream? > >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:00, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You can use this: >> >> wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash >> >> at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With >> that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. >> >> And at the end: >> >> rm *.image *.changes >> rm -rf pharo-vm >> >> If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> >>> Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? >>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >>>> >>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>>> >>>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Johan Fabry

Unfortunately my script is already doing that (except for removing the vm). :-( Anything else I can try or am I stuck until this is fixed upstream? > On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:00, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > You can use this: > > wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash > > at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With > that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. > > And at the end: > > rm *.image *.changes > rm -rf pharo-vm > > If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? >> >>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >>> >>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers > Cyril Ferlicot > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Adieu, abschied, addio, despedida, afscheid, farvÃ¤l, Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÐ½ÑÐ¹ Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ.

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

On 17/12/15 06:24, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> On 17 Dec 2015, at 11:21, Richard Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I bid farewell to everyone. Best of luck to Pharo. >> >> https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-… >> >> Cheers, >> Richard > Thanks for trying, you took on an impossible job (to promote a programming language full on). > > Your last message at the bottom would seem to suggest that we might hear from you again. > > Maybe you can find a smaller nice within our ecosystem to work on and contribute to. > > Sven > > > I share the words of Sven. Promoting a language is a daunting task and I remember reading on one of your blog posts about serendipity as the other ways the language have to become more mainstream. Popularity of Smalltalk is not my goal, but I bet to serendipity, trying to find a small project that is important enough for me (and others alike) but simple enough to be used as a learning exercise for a newbie. This outliner interactive writing and data visualization idea seems like a good rewarding balance in my case... may you find your serendipity approach to. Best wishes, Offray

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Cyril Ferlicot

You can use this: wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. And at the end: rm *.image *.changes rm -rf pharo-vm If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? > >> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >> >>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Johan Fabry

Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? > On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. > >> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 17, 2015