November 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by stepharo

Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot expect much. I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it would be terrible in addition. Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact this is a war. When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids listen music they will go to hell. I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that can destroy the oldest libraries because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours from algeria, marocco. Now we pay the price and it will continue. Stef Le 14/11/15 06:08, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > HernÃ¡n >

Nov. 14, 2015

Democracy attacked...

by stepharo

Hi guys I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably from these fanatics ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a rock concert and restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as birds. I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do not do anything I doubt it will not expand. And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in fact. Democracy and our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we have to react. Stef

Nov. 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by stepharo

We got two students working on epub for pillar but their never delivered. What we learned is that is that it was not that complex. The meta data were more a problem. The pub exporter should not work. Stef Le 13/11/15 18:44, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > Hi > > Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? > > If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an > EPUB exporter for Pillar. > > Status/Plans? > > Thanks for an update > > Bye > T. > >

Nov. 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by stepharo

because we want! Le 13/11/15 19:44, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > there are plenty of converters out there for coverting hmtl/pdf files > to epub, why you need a pharo solution ? > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:45 PM Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de > <mailto:astares@gmx.de>> wrote: > > Hi > > Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? > > If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an > EPUB exporter for Pillar. > > Status/Plans? > > Thanks for an update > > Bye > T. >

Nov. 14, 2015

Very sad day for the world

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened about the future of human kind. Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. HernÃ¡n

Nov. 14, 2015

New Introductory Tutorial

by EuanM

I've created Yet Another Smalltalk First Steps tutorial. This is intended as one of a series. It is designed to be cross-platform across Squeak 5 Pharo 4 Seaside 3.1 Cuis Dolphin 6 If you have experience running any of these systems on Windows, Linux or MacOS, please check to see if I have the instructions correct for your chosen pairing of Smalltalk and OS platform. (As you'll see when you look, I do not have detailed instructions for aspects of MacOS). The document is at: http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/get-smalltalk-up-and-ru… (It's intended to move to a different blog after this review process). I feel the need to do this as cross-Smalltalks tutorial because of findings and 4 charts I've placed at: http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/mindshare-of-smalltalk-… Essentially, Smalltalk mindshare and use is incredibly tiny, compared to other languages in the same space. (We all know this, but seeing it represented graphically has a more visceral effect, IMO) Aggregating interest in all the Smalltalks still does not bring more than a tiny proportion of the interest in, and use of, Ruby. In turn, Ruby is (quite understandably) small in comparison to JavaScript. Comparing interest in any specific Smalltalk is, predictably, smaller than the aggregate interest in Smalltalk. Our community seems determined to split itself into smaller and smaller sub-communities. I think we do ourselves a disservice this way. My initial contribution will be to try to provide some explicitly pan-Smalltalk beginners' tutorials, like this one. Cheers, and happy Smalltalking, EuanM

Nov. 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by Yanni Chiu

Long ago, I added an EPUB exporter to Pier-Book, but it was added to Pier2. The fork off point for Pier3 happened just before the EPUB piece. I see that it is still available at: http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2/Pier-Book-YanniChiu.164.mcz It would have to be ported to Pier3 or Pillar, or mined for code. On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi > > Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? > > If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an > EPUB exporter for Pillar. > > Status/Plans? > > Thanks for an update > > Bye > T. >

Nov. 14, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by Ferlicot D. Cyril

Le 13/11/2015 18:44, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > Hi > > Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? > > If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an > EPUB exporter for Pillar. > > Status/Plans? Hi, This is on the todo list of Pillar but noone works on Pillar for now except for some minor issues. I think this will not be hard because the architecture of Pillar is very good for the exports and there is a lot of tests that can easily be extend for an other exporter. > > Thanks for an update > > Bye > T. > -- Cyril Ferlicot (cyril.ferlicot(a)synectique.eu) http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Nov. 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 13/11/15 15:26, Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote: > For the same reason why Pillar supports export to LaTeX, HTML and > Markdown...why not just one and use pandoc to convert it to > everything? Because control and customizations. > (And that's not even mentioning that some of the powers of Pharo stems > from it's self-centeredness.) > > There's open issue for it though > https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues/8 > Well I do use pandoc to convert markup to everything. Mainly because I thing that is more momentum around scholar markdown[1] and is difficult to push several light markup languages in this uncharted territory. Pandoc has support for yaml embedded (arbitrary) data. Of course having Pillar using markdown + yaml natively and export to LaTeX and HTML will be the killer feature to stop needing pandoc. Meanwhile I imagine that at some point I will use AST to hack/extend pandoc with Smalltalk, bridging these two words and having the advantages of smalltalk and scholarly markdown for scientific writing... time will tell. [1] http://scholmd.org/basic_setup/tools-to-support-your-markdown-authoring.html Cheers, Offray

Nov. 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] EPUB anyone

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

For the same reason why Pillar supports export to LaTeX, HTML and Markdown...why not just one and use pandoc to convert it to everything? Because control and customizations. (And that's not even mentioning that some of the powers of Pharo stems from it's self-centeredness.) There's open issue for it though https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues/8 On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > there are plenty of converters out there for coverting hmtl/pdf files to > epub, why you need a pharo solution ? > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:45 PM Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Is there anyone working on/with EPUB in Pharo? >> >> If I remember correctly there was once the idea of an >> EPUB exporter for Pillar. >> >> Status/Plans? >> >> Thanks for an update >> >> Bye >> T. >> >>

Nov. 13, 2015