November 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo for Data Visualization

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 24/11/15 14:16, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> On 24 Nov 2015, at 16:13, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com >> <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: >> >> I tried in the last version of Moose (6.0) >> > > Keep in mind that requiring Moose when people do not want to do > software analysis is not good. > > I would never even think about starting with Moose. I do not even want > to. If you tell me âload Xâ, > it needs to work in Pharo. > Just for curiosity, what is the Moose's feature that makes development of Roassal happen there and not on plain Pharo 4? Is it because moose is integrated with package that Roassal needs? Cheers, Offray

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo for Data Visualization

by Marcus Denker

> On 24 Nov 2015, at 16:13, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > I tried in the last version of Moose (6.0) > Keep in mind that requiring Moose when people do not want to do software analysis is not good. I would never even think about starting with Moose. I do not even want to. If you tell me âload Xâ, it needs to work in Pharo. > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Volkert <volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>> wrote: >> >> Cool ... >> >> Which Pharo Version? I tried Pharo 4.0 and got this error: >> >> <edcefcdd.png> >> >> >> On 24.11.2015 12:50, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> Do we have a tutorial? i found only <http://woden.ronie.cl/>http://woden.ronie.cl <http://woden.ronie.cl/>. >>>> >>>> What about mouse control and object selection. It that possible? >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> To load Woden: >>> >>> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'Woden'; package: 'ConfigurationOfWoden'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfWoden) loadBleedingEdge. >>> >>> Try: >>> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= >>> v := RWView new. >>> >>> 1 to: 100 do: [ :i | >>> e := RWCube element. >>> e when: RWMouseButtonDown do: [ :ev | >>> ev element shape color: WDColor green. >>> ev element changed. >>> ]. >>> v add: e. >>> ]. >>> RWXZGridLayout on: v elements. >>> v addInteraction: RWMouseKeyControl. >>> v camera position: (WDVector3 x: 0.0 y: 0.0 z: 3.0). >>> v open >>> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= >>> Use the keys A S D W and the moose to navigate. Click on cube to make them green >>> >>> <Mail Attachment.png> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> BW, >>>> Volkert >>>> >>>> On 22.11.2015 21:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> We have also put quite some effort on Woden, a 3d engine for Pharoâ¦ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Dimitris Chloupis < <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> its possible via my Ephestos project, to render to video or real time but the project is still very much a WIP. Its doable but require some python knowledge and knowledge of Blender UI and API. I will be making a true Pharo API for it fairly soon but as you can imagine these things take time. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM Volkert < <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>> wrote: >>>>>> Is this possible with Pharo? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.asterank.com/3d/ <http://www.asterank.com/3d/> >>>>>> >>>>>> BW, >>>>>> Volkert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo for Data Visualization

by Alexandre Bergel

I tried in the last version of Moose (6.0) Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Volkert <volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de> wrote: > > Cool ... > > Which Pharo Version? I tried Pharo 4.0 and got this error: > > <edcefcdd.png> > > > On 24.11.2015 12:50, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Do we have a tutorial? i found only <http://woden.ronie.cl/>http://woden.ronie.cl <http://woden.ronie.cl/>. >>> >>> What about mouse control and object selection. It that possible? >> >> Yes. >> >> To load Woden: >> >> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'Woden'; package: 'ConfigurationOfWoden'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfWoden) loadBleedingEdge. >> >> Try: >> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= >> v := RWView new. >> >> 1 to: 100 do: [ :i | >> e := RWCube element. >> e when: RWMouseButtonDown do: [ :ev | >> ev element shape color: WDColor green. >> ev element changed. >> ]. >> v add: e. >> ]. >> RWXZGridLayout on: v elements. >> v addInteraction: RWMouseKeyControl. >> v camera position: (WDVector3 x: 0.0 y: 0.0 z: 3.0). >> v open >> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= >> Use the keys A S D W and the moose to navigate. Click on cube to make them green >> >> <Mail Attachment.png> >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> >>> >>> BW, >>> Volkert >>> >>> On 22.11.2015 21:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> We have also put quite some effort on Woden, a 3d engine for Pharoâ¦ >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Dimitris Chloupis < <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> its possible via my Ephestos project, to render to video or real time but the project is still very much a WIP. Its doable but require some python knowledge and knowledge of Blender UI and API. I will be making a true Pharo API for it fairly soon but as you can imagine these things take time. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM Volkert < <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>> wrote: >>>>> Is this possible with Pharo? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.asterank.com/3d/ <http://www.asterank.com/3d/> >>>>> >>>>> BW, >>>>> Volkert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo for Data Visualization

by Volkert

Cool ... Which Pharo Version? I tried Pharo 4.0 and got this error: On 24.11.2015 12:50, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Do we have a tutorial? i found only http://woden.ronie.cl. >> >> What about mouse control and object selection. It that possible? > > Yes. > > To load Woden: > > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'Woden'; package: > 'ConfigurationOfWoden'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfWoden) > loadBleedingEdge. > > Try: > =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= > v := RWView new. > > 1 to: 100 do: [ :i | > e := RWCube element. > e when: RWMouseButtonDown do: [ :ev | > ev element shape color: WDColor green. > ev element changed. > ]. > v add: e. > ]. > RWXZGridLayout on: v elements. > v addInteraction: RWMouseKeyControl. > v camera position: (WDVector3 x: 0.0 y: 0.0 z: 3.0). > v open > =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= > Use the keys A S D W and the moose to navigate. Click on cube to make > them green > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > >> >> BW, >> Volkert >> >> On 22.11.2015 21:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> We have also put quite some effort on Woden, a 3d engine for Pharoâ¦ >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Dimitris Chloupis >>>> <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> its possible via my Ephestos project, to render to video or real >>>> time but the project is still very much a WIP. Its doable but >>>> require some python knowledge and knowledge of Blender UI and API. >>>> I will be making a true Pharo API for it fairly soon but as you can >>>> imagine these things take time. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM Volkert >>>> <volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de >>>> <mailto:volkert@komponentenwerkstatt.de>> wrote: >>>> Is this possible with Pharo? >>>> >>>> http://www.asterank.com/3d/ >>>> >>>> BW, >>>> Volkert >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar tables with multiline cells

by Peter Uhnak

On 11/24, Peter Uhnak wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to have table with multiline cells in Pillar? > > For example in markdown I can embed a piece of HTML, unfortunately > Pillar requires {{{html: to start at a new line which doesn't work with > tables. Or I can use <table> instead of pillar syntax... problem solved. :) > > Is there another solution? > > Thanks, > > > -- > Peter -- Peter

Nov. 24, 2015

Pillar tables with multiline cells

by Peter Uhnak

Hi, is it possible to have table with multiline cells in Pillar? For example in markdown I can embed a piece of HTML, unfortunately Pillar requires {{{html: to start at a new line which doesn't work with tables. Is there another solution? Thanks, -- Peter

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo for Data Visualization

by Alexandre Bergel

> Do we have a tutorial? i found only http://woden.ronie.cl. > > What about mouse control and object selection. It that possible? Yes. To load Woden: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'Woden'; package: 'ConfigurationOfWoden'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfWoden) loadBleedingEdge. Try: =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= v := RWView new. 1 to: 100 do: [ :i | e := RWCube element. e when: RWMouseButtonDown do: [ :ev | ev element shape color: WDColor green. ev element changed. ]. v add: e. ]. RWXZGridLayout on: v elements. v addInteraction: RWMouseKeyControl. v camera position: (WDVector3 x: 0.0 y: 0.0 z: 3.0). v open =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= Use the keys A S D W and the moose to navigate. Click on cube to make them green Cheers, Alexandre > > BW, > Volkert > > On 22.11.2015 21:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> We have also put quite some effort on Woden, a 3d engine for Pharoâ¦ >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> its possible via my Ephestos project, to render to video or real time but the project is still very much a WIP. Its doable but require some python knowledge and knowledge of Blender UI and API. I will be making a true Pharo API for it fairly soon but as you can imagine these things take time. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM Volkert <volkert(a)komponentenwerkstatt.de> wrote: >>> Is this possible with Pharo? >>> >>> http://www.asterank.com/3d/ >>> >>> BW, >>> Volkert >>> >>> >>> > >

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] piping output from shell process to transcript

by Thierry Goubier

2015-11-24 9:18 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > On 11/23, john pfersich wrote: > > Try this: > > > > | p | > > p:= (PipeableOSProcess waitForCommand: 'whoami'). > > Transcript show: (p output). > > This will not do, as I said, I need live result. `#output` will output > it only after the process has completed. > I can only suggest some of the code GitFileTree uses; with a delay loop to retrieve continuously the output. Look at MCGitFileTreeRepository class >> #runOSProcessGitCommand:in: [ https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree/blob/pharo5.0_dev/repository/Montic… ] It's a low-level use of OSProcess, but it is fairly reliable. Thierry > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > how can I pipe output from PipeableOSProcess to Transcript? > > > > > > I tried doing: > > > > > > (PipeableOSProcess command: 'my-command.sh') outputOn: Transcript. > > > > > > However `#outputOn:` doesn't send `#endEntry` so I don't see anything, > > > and even if it would, the output is delivered there at the end anyway. > > > > > > I would like to see the live result of the running commands. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > Peter > > > > > > > > -- > Peter > >

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] piping output from shell process to transcript

by Peter Uhnak

On 11/23, john pfersich wrote: > Try this: > > | p | > p:= (PipeableOSProcess waitForCommand: 'whoami'). > Transcript show: (p output). This will not do, as I said, I need live result. `#output` will output it only after the process has completed. > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > how can I pipe output from PipeableOSProcess to Transcript? > > > > I tried doing: > > > > (PipeableOSProcess command: 'my-command.sh') outputOn: Transcript. > > > > However `#outputOn:` doesn't send `#endEntry` so I don't see anything, > > and even if it would, the output is delivered there at the end anyway. > > > > I would like to see the live result of the running commands. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Peter > > > > -- Peter

Nov. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Basic versioning of GitHub repositories from within Pharo

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Skip, Trying here, especially interested to see how it handles metadata-less filetree. - I have no authentification issues (but I had the feeling the GUI wasn't working for a little while) - I don't get all my repositories (well, in practice allmost none, however I get all the pharo books), so I can't test that metadata-less. - I get NeoJSON parser errors. Nice to see that nice graph widget put to good use :) But it could have less white space on the left. Now, how do I contribute if I want to? Where is the repository I should fork on github? I'm also a taker for a few more comments... Thierry 2015-11-23 16:25 GMT+01:00 Skip Lentz <skip.lentz(a)inria.fr>: > Hi everyone, > > As part of my internship I am creating bindings to the GitHub API in Pharo. > As a prototype and demo, I have created a small tool last week to do some > basic versioning, namely checking out a version, committing a version and > showing a log of commits along with a branch tree. > > Hereâs a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/iMfWOvp.png > > The repository of the bindings and the tool is here: > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Balletie/GitHub > To load the tool into your image, execute: > > (ConfigurationOfGitHub project version: #development) load: #tool > > Keep in mind that this is tied to GitHub, since internally it uses the > API. A nice side effect of this is that everything can be done in-memory. > That is, thereâs no local copy on the filesystem. One does not even need > git installed. > > That being said, feel free to take off with my prototype and make it work > with e.g. the LibGit bindings in Pharo. > > Known bug: > - When selecting a different repository from the dropdown while a version > is also selected in the log, one gets a DNU. To work around this for the > time being, just deselect the version before you switch repositories. > > Let me know what you think and feel free to ask some questions. > > Skip >

Nov. 24, 2015