October 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Text Field With Entry Completion Via Tab

by Nicolai Hess

2015-10-06 15:56 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > With all the new tools - Spec, Brick, Tx, etc - what is the easiest way to > do > this in Pharo 4.0? I don't have a preference for the tool as long is it > works in Morphic. > > My naive attempt failed: > > applicants := PaPerson list collect: #name. > entryCompletion := EntryCompletion new > dataSourceBlock: [ :currText | applicants ]; > filterBlock: [ :currApplicant :currText | currApplicant > asUppercase > includesSubstring: currText asString asUppercase ]. > TextInputFieldModel new > acceptOnCR: false; > entryCompletion: entryCompletion; > openWithSpec. > > The completion menu appears, but is seems you can only accept the selected > completion via the mouse - yuck! > you can select an entry with arrow up/down and the enter key should accept the selected completion entry. > > Thanks. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Text-Field-With-Entry-Completion-Via-Tab-tp4853993.ht… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus>>openOnClass: gives back a debugger

by Federico.Balaguer

Marcus, I have a very simple fix that seems to work on my side. I implemented: NautilusUI>>useLastPackagePatternStringForClass: aClass ^ self which seems to be what is return on the subclass of NautilusUI when the last value of a SharedPackageFilterPatternsHolder is nil. Regards, Federico Here is the fileout of that method: NautilusUI-package_filter.st <http://forum.world.st/file/n4854014/NautilusUI-package_filter.st> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-openOnClass-gives-back-a-debugger-tp4853822p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:53, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>>: >> >>> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>>: >>> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >>> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >>> >>> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >>> don't use most of the methods, >>> >>> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >>> >>> >>> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >>> >>> werner >>> >>> >> >> I thought we already had something like that... >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ <http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/> >> >> I can not load it in a recen pharo image. >> Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > > OCompletion is already in the image (since Pharo 2.0). > if you check your settings, under "Code Completionâ, Controllerâ¦ it should say NOCController. > > Funny, I always thought the NOC-Classes are some kind of "Old" NEC-Classes. > > Is a lot better than older NECController, but still far from good enough. > > Some more information on this? What is missing. ECompletion was just a list of matching classes/selectors OCompletion added some candy like showing first last typed entries (with some other heuristic). AFAIR It was scanning changes file to do it so Camilo changed it to do something more âimage basedâ (and fast), but we never got happy with the results. IMO older version was a bit better (but do not be mistaken: it was just âa bitâ betterâ¦ we changed it because Marcus hated it, and I think he still does :P) So there you haveâ¦ we need a real completion tool, I agreeâ¦ :) Esteban > > > > Esteban > > >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Henry

Oct. 6, 2015

Text Field With Entry Completion Via Tab

by Sean P. DeNigris

With all the new tools - Spec, Brick, Tx, etc - what is the easiest way to do this in Pharo 4.0? I don't have a preference for the tool as long is it works in Morphic. My naive attempt failed: applicants := PaPerson list collect: #name. entryCompletion := EntryCompletion new dataSourceBlock: [ :currText | applicants ]; filterBlock: [ :currApplicant :currText | currApplicant asUppercase includesSubstring: currText asString asUppercase ]. TextInputFieldModel new acceptOnCR: false; entryCompletion: entryCompletion; openWithSpec. The completion menu appears, but is seems you can only accept the selected completion via the mouse - yuck! Thanks. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Text-Field-With-Entry-Completion-Via-Tab-tp4853993.ht… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Nicolai Hess

2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no>: > >> >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com>: >> >>> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> >>>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >>>> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >>>> >>>> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >>>> don't use most of the methods, >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the >>> user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several >>> different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the >>> user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and >>> then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the >>> code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >>> >> >> >> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >> >> >>> werner >>> >>> >> >> I thought we already had something like that... >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ >> > > I can not load it in a recen pharo image. > Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > > > OCompletion is already in the image (since Pharo 2.0). > if you check your settings, under "Code Completionâ, Controllerâ¦ it should > say NOCController. > Funny, I always thought the NOC-Classes are some kind of "Old" NEC-Classes. > Is a lot better than older NECController, but still far from good enough. > Some more information on this? What is missing. > > Esteban > > > > > >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> > > >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Marcus Denker

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:28, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>>: >> >>> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>>: >>> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >>> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >>> >>> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >>> don't use most of the methods, >>> >>> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >>> >>> >>> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >>> >>> werner >>> >>> >> >> I thought we already had something like that... >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ <http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/> >> >> I can not load it in a recen pharo image. >> Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > > OCompletion is already in the image (since Pharo 2.0). > if you check your settings, under "Code Completionâ, Controllerâ¦ it should say NOCController. > Is a lot better than older NECController, but still far from good enough. > and strangely not the default. I remember setting it multiple times as the default, but it was reverted somehow. Marcus

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Marcus Denker

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>>: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>>: >> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >> >> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >> don't use most of the methods, >> >> >> Hi Nicolai, >> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >> >> >> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >> >> werner >> >> > > I thought we already had something like that... > http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ <http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/> > > I can not load it in a recen pharo image. > Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > This is already in Pharo. It is merged into the one completion package. Marcus

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>>: > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>>: >> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >> >> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >> don't use most of the methods, >> >> >> Hi Nicolai, >> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >> >> >> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >> >> werner >> >> > > I thought we already had something like that... > http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ <http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/> > > I can not load it in a recen pharo image. > Is it used in recent versions of squeak? OCompletion is already in the image (since Pharo 2.0). if you check your settings, under "Code Completionâ, Controllerâ¦ it should say NOCController. Is a lot better than older NECController, but still far from good enough. Esteban > > > > Cheers, > Henry >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Nicolai Hess

2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no>: > > On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens <wkassens(a)libello.com>: > >> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I will start typing >>> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of answers... >>> >>> I think this is difficult, even though this classes are big and you >>> don't use most of the methods, >>> >>> >> Hi Nicolai, >> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer wins, if the user >> mostly uses the first few proposals. perhaps one could program several >> different heuristics, that decide, what the user wants. depending on the >> user choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated accordingly and >> then the choices get sorted with those weights. this way the >> code-completion could adapt to the way each user works? >> > > > Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. > > >> werner >> >> > > I thought we already had something like that... > http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ > I can not load it in a recen pharo image. Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > > Cheers, > Henry >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus>>openOnClass: gives back a debugger

by Federico.Balaguer

Marcus, Thanks!! this works as expected Federico -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-openOnClass-gives-back-a-debugger-tp4853822p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 6, 2015