October 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Werner Kassens

just fwiw, i looked at http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ and there was a paper about ocompletion mentioned, but the access to this paper was forbidden - at least for me. but at http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~rrobbes/p/JASE-completion.pdf there is a paper about ocompletion by the same author that explains ocompletion and with that paper ocompletion is easily understandable. werner

Oct. 7, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I run Pharo on Debian?

by justonium

That doesn't look like something I can run from the command line. Also, there is no pharo-ui folder in my download. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:05 AM, jecisc [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4854181h27(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > Le 07/10/2015 11:57, justonium a Ã©crit : > > I've downloaded Pharo 4.0. When I open the folder that was downloaded > > (pharo4.0), I see a file called pharo. I think I'm supposed to run this, > but > > I don't know how. When I right click it, there is no run option. What > should > > I do? > > > > > > Hi, > > You can launch Pharo in command line: > > ./pharo-ui path/to/Pharo.image > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/How-do-I-run-Pharo-on-Debian-tp4854180.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > > > *signature.asc* (836 bytes) Download Attachment > <http://forum.world.st/attachment/4854181/0/signature.asc> > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://forum.world.st/How-do-I-run-Pharo-on-Debian-tp4854180p4854181.html > To unsubscribe from How do I run Pharo on Debian?, click here > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML > <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-do-I-run-Pharo-on-Debian-tp4854180p4854185.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 7, 2015

How do I run Pharo on Debian?

by justonium

I've downloaded Pharo 4.0. When I open the folder that was downloaded (pharo4.0), I see a file called pharo. I think I'm supposed to run this, but I don't know how. When I right click it, there is no run option. What should I do? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-do-I-run-Pharo-on-Debian-tp4854180.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 7, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus>>openOnClass: gives back a debugger

by Marcus Denker

Hi, Yes, that should not hurt to be added.. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16736/Fix-Nautilus-openOnClass-for-Pharo4 > On 06 Oct 2015, at 16:50, Federico.Balaguer <federico.balaguer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Marcus, > > I have a very simple fix that seems to work on my side. I implemented: > > NautilusUI>>useLastPackagePatternStringForClass: aClass > ^ self > > which seems to be what is return on the subclass of NautilusUI when the last > value of a SharedPackageFilterPatternsHolder is nil. > > Regards, Federico > > Here is the fileout of that method: NautilusUI-package_filter.st > <http://forum.world.st/file/n4854014/NautilusUI-package_filter.st> > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-openOnClass-gives-back-a-debugger-tp4853822p… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Oct. 7, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Marcus Denker

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 21:20, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > (did you know, that there is a shortcut to jump from one message send argument to another (not related to completion, but very helpful). Sadly this is gone or I couldn't find it in rubrics shortcut handling). > > maybe this is related to Settings > Code Browsing > AST navigation? (I've never actually tried to use this.) > We never used it as we could not use a good key-combination (ctr-arrow keys) due to the VMâ¦ Now I think it is not in the new editor. We should revisit that: I still like the idea to do navigation by AST structure instead of text. Marcus

Oct. 7, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Dimitris Chloupis

Well I tried to understand how NECompletion works , after a month of reading and rereading code still could not figure out how it works. I understood the basics, but the details were so difficult to really track down. Its very spagetified, a usual pharo issue, and of course undocumented. I decided to move to things that I could be more productive with. This is an area that requires the touch of a Pharo expert. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:21 PM Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > (did you know, that there is a shortcut to jump from one message send > argument to another (not related to completion, but very helpful). Sadly > this is gone or I couldn't find it in rubrics shortcut handling). > > maybe this is related to Settings > Code Browsing > AST navigation? (I've > never actually tried to use this.) > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:00 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> About an alternative way to do code completion: >> >> This is the paper: http://macbeth.cs.ucdavis.edu/cacheca.pdf >> this is the code repository: https://github.com/christinef/CACHECA >> and this is the tool in action: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INk0N3JNtc >> >> This was the student I was in contact with. >> >> Stef >> >> >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> (did you know, that there is a shortcut to jump from one message send argument to another (not related to completion, but very helpful). Sadly this is gone or I couldn't find it in rubrics shortcut handling). maybe this is related to Settings > Code Browsing > AST navigation? (I've never actually tried to use this.) On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:00 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > About an alternative way to do code completion: > > This is the paper: http://macbeth.cs.ucdavis.edu/cacheca.pdf > this is the code repository: https://github.com/christinef/CACHECA > and this is the tool in action: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INk0N3JNtc > > This was the student I was in contact with. > > Stef > >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus>>openOnClass: gives back a debugger

by stepharo

Pharo 40 arghhh Do not look at the code, because we will feel ashamed for years :) We started to radically clean it in 50 but some monsters still live there and ugly ones. Stef Le 6/10/15 14:40, Federico.Balaguer a Ã©crit : > Hello, > > It is Pharo 4, I forgot to mention that > > Federico > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Nautilus-openOnClass-gives-back-a-debugger-tp4853822p… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by stepharo

In fact NOC is the code of romain robbes (we took the best version that he described in his phd) Now the code needs some love. Stef Le 6/10/15 15:53, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > 2015-10-06 15:28 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com > <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > > >> On 06 Oct 2015, at 15:23, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de >> <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2015-10-06 13:46 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen >> <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no <mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>>: >> >> >>> On 06 Oct 2015, at 1:33 , Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de >>> <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-06 11:57 GMT+02:00 Werner Kassens >>> <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>>: >>> >>> On 10/06/2015 09:09 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> >>> > Since Object has almost 500 methods whatever I >>> will start typing >>> Object/TClass/TBehavior/... will have a list of >>> answers... >>> >>> I think this is difficult, even though this classes >>> are big and you >>> don't use most of the methods, >>> >>> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> imagine that code-completion is a game and the computer >>> wins, if the user mostly uses the first few proposals. >>> perhaps one could program several different heuristics, >>> that decide, what the user wants. depending on the user >>> choices, the weights for these heuristics get updated >>> accordingly and then the choices get sorted with those >>> weights. this way the code-completion could adapt to the >>> way each user works? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes this would be nice, but it is not an easy task. >>> >>> werner >>> >>> >> >> I thought we already had something like that... >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OCompletion/ >> >> >> I can not load it in a recen pharo image. >> Is it used in recent versions of squeak? > > OCompletion is already in the image (since Pharo 2.0). > if you check your settings, under "Code Completionâ, Controllerâ¦ > it should say NOCController. > > > Funny, I always thought the NOC-Classes are some kind of "Old" > NEC-Classes. > > Is a lot better than older NECController, but still far from good > enough. > > > Some more information on this? What is missing. > > > Esteban > > >> >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> >> > >

Oct. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Better Code Completion

by stepharo

About an alternative way to do code completion: This is the paper: http://macbeth.cs.ucdavis.edu/cacheca.pdf this is the code repository: https://github.com/christinef/CACHECA and this is the tool in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INk0N3JNtc This was the student I was in contact with. Stef

Oct. 6, 2015