October 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] crashed image ?

by stepharo

So far not For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there. Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a Ã©crit : > A question pop in my head ? > Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? > If not can have a link to Oz or something. > >> On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr >> <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> >>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud >>> <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com >>>> <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr >>>> <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: >>>> >>>> >>>> > On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud >>>> <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com >>>> <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi, maybe a useful question :-) >>>> > >>>> > I crashed a image :-) >>>> > And I ask myself: >>>> > - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) >>>> change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just >>>> 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) >>>> will not really helpmeet >>>> >>>> We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday >>>> night, but the resulting update did not finish running all >>>> tests and we had to revert. >>>> >>> Can I have a link to the source ? >>> >> >> the issue tracker entry is >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea >> >> Marcus >> > > > > Best Regards > JB > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

by Thierry Goubier

2015-10-20 12:21 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2015-10-20 12:17 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >> 2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu>: >> >>> Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : >>> > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? >>> > >>> > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same >>> > approach as GitFileTree ? >>> > >>> > Thierry >>> >>> Which version of GitFileTree should I take for Pharo3? >>> >> >> Hum, let me check what is the condition of this one. >> > > Ok. > > The Pharo4 / Pharo5 versions have a better refactored interface for the > external git commands, which may make it a bit easier to read. The Pharo3 > version is functional, still. > > I will have a look to backport those changes to the Pharo3 branch. > Underway. It is integrated in the github filetree main repository in the pharo3.0 and pharo3.0_dev branches; I'll update the .mcz soon. Thierry > > Thierry > > >> >> Thierry >> >> >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo >>> http://drgeo.eu >>> http://google.com/+DrgeoEu >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Codepage 437

by stepharo

Excellent! You rock sven! Le 20/10/15 14:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > Norbert, > >> On 20 Oct 2015, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> Is there any way to read a codepage 437 encoded file with pharo? >> >> thanks, >> >> Norbert > This could be done with ZnByteEncoder, but that encoding is not provided by default. So you need to generate a new mapping method, luckily this can be done automagically: > > ZnByteEncoder generateByteToUnicodeSpec: 'http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/PC/CP437.TXT'. > > Put it on the class side and plug it in #mappingToIdentifiers and #initialize again. I guess you maybe could provide a one-shot instance, but I have never done that and adding it as known encoding will be easier at first. > > I am sure you will figure it out ;-) > > Let me know how it goes, maybe it would be a good idea to allow one-shot encoder instances based just on a spec from unicode.org > > Sven > > >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Question when reading UPBE

by stepharo

please take 5 min and watch this video: http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/StarterKitCache/Exercises/Exercises-Counter/ stef Le 19/10/15 17:49, å°æ©æ© a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I'm a newcomer in Pharo and start to learn how to use Pharo. > In page 42 of UPBE(Vesion:2015-10-17 ), I don't know where I write > the constant methods and UPBE didn't tell me in which pane to type them. > Could you tell me ? > > Andy Zhu

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

by stepharo

Hilaire what is the problem that you encounter to still be in Pharo3.0? Stef Le 20/10/15 12:13, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : >> So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? >> >> Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same >> approach as GitFileTree ? >> >> Thierry > Which version of GitFileTree should I take for Pharo3? > > Hilaire >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Voting for removing Seaside chapter from UPBE

by stepharo

I would not remove it. It is there simple and oscar uses it in his lectures. I do not see why this is a problem. I think that this is good to show that we can do some sexy/simple web dev Stef Le 19/10/15 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > I already mentioned this in Github issues but here is my take on this > > I vote for the complete removal of the Seaside chapter for several > reasons > > a) Its not a begineer orientated chapter as is the focus of this book > b) its not general purpose as is the focus of this book > c) far harder to keep this updated constantly which again is the focus > of this book, since not many of us use seaside > d) It already has its own book and its own documentation which we can > easily refer to. > > e) Its not even part of Pharo standard distribution > > So I vote for the complete removal of this chapter so we have one less > thing to worry about updating and since its my personal opinion that > it does not fit the general character of this book. > > > I would like your thoughts on this since its a big change. > >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] crashed image ?

by Marcus Denker

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A question pop in my head ? > Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? > No. > If not can have a link to Oz or something. > > Ask Guille Marcus

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] crashed image ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something. > On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: >>> >>> > On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, maybe a useful question :-) >>> > >>> > I crashed a image :-) >>> > And I ask myself: >>> > - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet >>> >>> We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. >> Can I have a link to the source ? >> > > the issue tracker entry is > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea> > > Marcus > Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Thanks for Pharo

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Marcus, On 20/10/15 00:36, Marcus Denker wrote: > Thanksâ¦ I was not quite sure back then if I should give a talk like thatâ¦ but in the end it worked, I think. > > I should do an iteration on itâ¦ I am collecting material about the topic, especially the feedback loopâ¦ > > It is so amazing that in a bootstrapping feedback loop, you do not need to reach perfection in each > intermediate step to get the effects from the transient artefact to drive growth. > > Marcus > Please do the iteration. I enjoyed the talk pretty much and the analogy of toilets and cathedrals works pretty well. I have seen this bootstrap loop into action several times, recently by adding SQLite support to my project, so yes, having this talks and proper analogies helps to tell the Pharo Story better. Cheers, Offray

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Codepage 437

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Norbert, > On 20 Oct 2015, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Is there any way to read a codepage 437 encoded file with pharo? > > thanks, > > Norbert This could be done with ZnByteEncoder, but that encoding is not provided by default. So you need to generate a new mapping method, luckily this can be done automagically: ZnByteEncoder generateByteToUnicodeSpec: 'http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/PC/CP437.TXT'. Put it on the class side and plug it in #mappingToIdentifiers and #initialize again. I guess you maybe could provide a one-shot instance, but I have never done that and adding it as known encoding will be easier at first. I am sure you will figure it out ;-) Let me know how it goes, maybe it would be a good idea to allow one-shot encoder instances based just on a spec from unicode.org Sven

Oct. 20, 2015