October 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

by Dale Henrichs

This is good to hear .... I am pro-git, because well you have to pick an SCM to talk about and I do think that the collaboration tools for open source projects on github are superior to anything else... Git other than that I am glad that folks are finding that FileTree is working for other disk-based SCMs --- because that really is the point of FileTree:) It should also be possible to copy packages back and forth between a git-managed FileTree repository and a Fossil-managed Filetree repositor... Dale On 10/20/2015 02:09 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying Fossil with Filetree, and I was rather please by the > mutuals use of these tools. So I may share a few feedbacks. > Fossil[1] itself is a software to manage source code development. It is > very simple to install and data is saved in a single sqlite database. It > comes with source code management, bug tracker, web interface, wiki and > timeline tools. > > I was a bit afraid by the filetree atomic commit (one file per method) > to manage it without much headache with file based VCS. However fossil > comes with a nice command: 'fossil addremove' to add/remove the changed > files in the repo. So it went fine. > > So all in all, it is pretty nice if one want to move to a private souce > code management system with very little requirement. > > Hilaire > > [1] http://www.fossil-scm.org >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] crashed image ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application. It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ? > On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > So far not > > For now with the old changes replay. > What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there. > > > Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a Ã©crit : >> A question pop in my head ? >> Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? >> If not can have a link to Oz or something. >> >>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: >>>>> >>>>> > On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi, maybe a useful question :-) >>>>> > >>>>> > I crashed a image :-) >>>>> > And I ask myself: >>>>> > - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet >>>>> >>>>> We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. >>>> Can I have a link to the source ? >>>> >>> >>> the issue tracker entry is >>> >>> <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> JB >> jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Codepage 437

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I added the following: === Name: Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.41 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 20 October 2015, 6:35:23.106957 pm UUID: c6b0b265-827d-439b-b241-81bce4c56dc3 Ancestors: Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.40 Introduction of ZnByteEncoder class>>#newFromUrl: Refactoring introduced #top123FromUnicodeSpec: === Name: Zinc-Character-Encoding-Tests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.23 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 20 October 2015, 6:36:04.004228 pm UUID: 265ff0e3-85df-47d2-8821-f9979aca15a0 Ancestors: Zinc-Character-Encoding-Tests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.22 Added ZnCharacterEncoderTests>>#testByteEncoderFromUrl === So now you can do ZnByteEncoder newFromUrl: 'http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/PC/CP437.TXT'. But you better cache that instance somewhere. Sven On 20 Oct 2015, at 16:07, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Excellent! > You rock sven! > > Le 20/10/15 14:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> Norbert, >> >>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >>> Is there any way to read a codepage 437 encoded file with pharo? >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Norbert >> This could be done with ZnByteEncoder, but that encoding is not provided by default. So you need to generate a new mapping method, luckily this can be done automagically: >> >> ZnByteEncoder generateByteToUnicodeSpec: 'http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/PC/CP437.TXT'. >> >> Put it on the class side and plug it in #mappingToIdentifiers and #initialize again. I guess you maybe could provide a one-shot instance, but I have never done that and adding it as known encoding will be easier at first. >> >> I am sure you will figure it out ;-) >> >> Let me know how it goes, maybe it would be a good idea to allow one-shot encoder instances based just on a spec from unicode.org >> >> Sven >> >> >> > >

Oct. 20, 2015

How to place the main window on the screen?

by stepharo

Hi guys I found how I can change the size of the main pharo window but I could not find how I can place it in a given location. Stef

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Thanks for Pharo

by Ben Coman

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:10 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Thank you both for doing this. It is a valuable asset to the community. It >> helps those of us who aren't driving the project to see where we are going >> and hopefully how we can help. >> >> Thank you both for all you do. I really enjoy your talk Nomads do not >> build Cathedrals. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcoy5gwUvOA >> >> I believe this is an important thing for people coming to Pharo to >> understand about Pharo, its vision and its processes. >> >> I also love Doru's videos. Very inspirational. Some of the shorts are so >> dramatic with graphics and sound, I almost feel like I need to turn the >> lights out and get some popcorn. :) > > > May be we should add a selected set of links on the web page with the Pharo > vision :) Great idea. Video is a good medium for sharing vision.

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

by stepharo

6.0 Review Of Key Concepts The fossil program is a self-contained stand-alone executable. Just put it somewhere on your PATH to install it. Use the clone or new commands to create a new repository. Use the open command to create a new source tree. Use the add and rm or delete commands to add and remove files from the local source tree. Use the commit command to create a new check-in. Use the update command to merge in changes from others. The push and pull commands can be used to share changes manually, but these things happen automatically in the default autosync mode. It looks like something that I can understand. I'm sure that other people will get bored by the complexity of git commands (because conceptually there not much in there).

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

by Thierry Goubier

2015-10-20 16:07 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2015-10-20 12:21 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >> 2015-10-20 12:17 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu>: >>> >>>> Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : >>>> > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? >>>> > >>>> > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same >>>> > approach as GitFileTree ? >>>> > >>>> > Thierry >>>> >>>> Which version of GitFileTree should I take for Pharo3? >>>> >>> >>> Hum, let me check what is the condition of this one. >>> >> >> Ok. >> >> The Pharo4 / Pharo5 versions have a better refactored interface for the >> external git commands, which may make it a bit easier to read. The Pharo3 >> version is functional, still. >> >> I will have a look to backport those changes to the Pharo3 branch. >> > > Underway. It is integrated in the github filetree main repository in the > pharo3.0 and pharo3.0_dev branches; I'll update the .mcz soon. > Done. The configuration has been updated for Pharo3. Thierry

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Voting for removing Seaside chapter from UPBE

by stepharo

cool Stef Le 20/10/15 16:13, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > as i said also in the github issue, I wont be removing it since you > guys want it in. > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:00 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > I would not remove it. > It is there simple and oscar uses it in his lectures. > I do not see why this is a problem. I think that this is good to show > that we can do some sexy/simple web dev > > Stef > > Le 19/10/15 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > > I already mentioned this in Github issues but here is my take on > this > > > > I vote for the complete removal of the Seaside chapter for several > > reasons > > > > a) Its not a begineer orientated chapter as is the focus of this > book > > b) its not general purpose as is the focus of this book > > c) far harder to keep this updated constantly which again is the > focus > > of this book, since not many of us use seaside > > d) It already has its own book and its own documentation which > we can > > easily refer to. > > > > e) Its not even part of Pharo standard distribution > > > > So I vote for the complete removal of this chapter so we have > one less > > thing to worry about updating and since its my personal opinion that > > it does not fit the general character of this book. > > > > > > I would like your thoughts on this since its a big change. > > > > > >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Voting for removing Seaside chapter from UPBE

by Dimitris Chloupis

as i said also in the github issue, I wont be removing it since you guys want it in. On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:00 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > I would not remove it. > It is there simple and oscar uses it in his lectures. > I do not see why this is a problem. I think that this is good to show > that we can do some sexy/simple web dev > > Stef > > Le 19/10/15 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > > I already mentioned this in Github issues but here is my take on this > > > > I vote for the complete removal of the Seaside chapter for several > > reasons > > > > a) Its not a begineer orientated chapter as is the focus of this book > > b) its not general purpose as is the focus of this book > > c) far harder to keep this updated constantly which again is the focus > > of this book, since not many of us use seaside > > d) It already has its own book and its own documentation which we can > > easily refer to. > > > > e) Its not even part of Pharo standard distribution > > > > So I vote for the complete removal of this chapter so we have one less > > thing to worry about updating and since its my personal opinion that > > it does not fit the general character of this book. > > > > > > I would like your thoughts on this since its a big change. > > > > > > >

Oct. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Thanks for Pharo

by stepharo

> Thank you both for doing this. It is a valuable asset to the > community. It helps those of us who aren't driving the project to see > where we are going and hopefully how we can help. > > Thank you both for all you do. I really enjoy your talk Nomads do not > build Cathedrals. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcoy5gwUvOA > > I believe this is an important thing for people coming to Pharo to > understand about Pharo, its vision and its processes. > > I also love Doru's videos. Very inspirational. Some of the shorts are > so dramatic with graphics and sound, I almost feel like I need to turn > the lights out and get some popcorn. :) May be we should add a selected set of links on the web page with the Pharo vision :)

Oct. 20, 2015