January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

issue with and/or inlining

by Evan Donahue

Hello, I'm currently working on an embedding of the miniKanren logic programming language in Pharo (http://minikanren.org/) and I have run into an issue with the method compilation internals I was hoping someone could shed some light on: miniKanren has an operator, fresh, that basically evaluates a block and returns a logic variable. My current syntax for a conjunction of logic variables is: var1 and: var2 When I try to use the same syntax for fresh: var1 and: [ :var2 | var2 ] Compilation fails with "Warning: and: (or:) takes zero-arg block" which seems on first glance to come from the compiler attempting to inline my and: call. If I add an auxiliary method andFresh: that evaluates the block and and:'s the result in 2 steps, my tests pass. What I'd like to know is: 1) Is there a work around to let me use the and: syntax here? 2) Might my overriding of and: and or: for normal logic variables cause other problems I'm not thinking of? Obviously this is not a critical issue, but my code's aesthetics are at stake, and if we can't have pretty code, then what can we have? Thanks, Evan

Jan. 9, 2015

Updating Pharo

by nacho

Helo friends, When I update Pharo (World --> System --> Software Update) I see some progressbars that I don't undersand. what is exactly snapshoting? Also, suppose I add Bloc's Monticello repository, does a Software Update also update Bloc when an update is released? Thanks in advance Nacho ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Updating-Pharo-tp4798604.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Damien Cassou

that is really great news, thank you very much. Do you plan a common interface to manipulate OSes polymorphically? This could include: - opening an external application - sending a file to the trash - ... Thanks again! On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi, > > beside the existing "OS-Windows" support for Windows operating system > the "Pharo OS project" (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS) now also has > new subprojects for "OS-Unix" and "OS-Linux-Ubuntu" with some initial > support for these native platforms as well. > > You can load it from the config browser in Pharo 4.0. I guess the > attached screenshot will explain it all... > > Bye > T. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Damien Pollet

Both GTSpotter>>spotterImplementorsFor: and GTSpotterCandidatesProcessor>>is:matching: do substring matching, so I'm wondering if the matching logic is duplicated/distributed in several places. On 9 January 2015 at 15:55, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > I am not sure I understand the question. A duplication of what? > > Doru > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Damien Pollet > <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I've seen #includesSubstring: in >> GTSpotterCandidatesProcessor>>is:matching: as wellâ¦ is it duplication >> or a legitimately different use? (just trying to understand the >> architecture) >> >> On 9 January 2015 at 14:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> > The includesSubstring: is the simplest thing we could do to get some >> > value >> > out of the interface. More is definitely required in this direction. >> > >> > To build a custom search logic, you should use "processor filter: >> > [...]". >> > >> > For an example, look at GTSpotter>>spotterImplementorsFor: aStep. >> > >> > This is still too complicated and we need to simplify it. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Doru >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Damien Pollet >> > <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Back to this thread! >> >> >> >> I'm not completely fond of the way GTSpotter matches candidates using >> >> just #includesSubstring: >> >> Are there provisions already to rank candidates instead of binary >> >> matching/rejecting them? I'd like to try one of the fuzzy matching >> >> algorithms that other quick-selection tools have. >> >> >> >> On 24 December 2014 at 02:36, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> >> <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting >> >> > "KMRepository >> >> > default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other >> >> > thread >> >> > today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just >> >> > about my >> >> > project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, >> >> > tables, >> >> > etc) >> >> > and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the >> >> > state >> >> > of >> >> > the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting >> >> > KMRepository >> >> > default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my >> >> > outliner, >> >> > the tree gets empty). >> >> > >> >> > Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > Offray >> >> > >> >> > El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: >> >> > >> >> >> Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: >> >> >> Inspect: >> >> >> KMRepository default. >> >> >> >> >> >> With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely >> >> >> formatted. >> >> >> I >> >> >> finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very >> >> >> happy >> >> >> user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). >> >> >> >> >> >> -Ed >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is >> >> >>> too >> >> >>> low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching >> >> >>> until >> >> >>> somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing >> >> >>> something >> >> >>> else >> >> >>> :-/ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either >> >> >>> :-( >> >> >>> Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that >> >> >>> lists >> >> >>> useful >> >> >>> tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts >> >> >>> prominent >> >> >>> in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers >> >> >>> donât >> >> >>> look >> >> >>> at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet >> >> >>>> <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: >> >> >>>> how >> >> >>>> to invoke GTSpotter >> >> >>>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email >> >> >>>> either; I >> >> >>>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before >> >> >>>> and >> >> >>>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the >> >> >>>> shortcut >> >> >>>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such >> >> >>>> behaviors in the image? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> >> >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of >> >> >>> Chile >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Tudor Girba

I am not sure I understand the question. A duplication of what? Doru On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I've seen #includesSubstring: in > GTSpotterCandidatesProcessor>>is:matching: as wellâ¦ is it duplication > or a legitimately different use? (just trying to understand the > architecture) > > On 9 January 2015 at 14:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > The includesSubstring: is the simplest thing we could do to get some > value > > out of the interface. More is definitely required in this direction. > > > > To build a custom search logic, you should use "processor filter: [...]". > > > > For an example, look at GTSpotter>>spotterImplementorsFor: aStep. > > > > This is still too complicated and we need to simplify it. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Damien Pollet > > <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Back to this thread! > >> > >> I'm not completely fond of the way GTSpotter matches candidates using > >> just #includesSubstring: > >> Are there provisions already to rank candidates instead of binary > >> matching/rejecting them? I'd like to try one of the fuzzy matching > >> algorithms that other quick-selection tools have. > >> > >> On 24 December 2014 at 02:36, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > >> <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting > >> > "KMRepository > >> > default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other > thread > >> > today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just > >> > about my > >> > project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, > tables, > >> > etc) > >> > and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state > >> > of > >> > the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository > >> > default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my > >> > outliner, > >> > the tree gets empty). > >> > > >> > Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Offray > >> > > >> > El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: > >> > > >> >> Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: > >> >> Inspect: > >> >> KMRepository default. > >> >> > >> >> With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely > formatted. > >> >> I > >> >> finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very > >> >> happy > >> >> user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). > >> >> > >> >> -Ed > >> >> > >> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is > too > >> >>> low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching > until > >> >>> somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something > >> >>> else > >> >>> :-/ > >> >>> > >> >>> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either > >> >>> :-( > >> >>> Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that > lists > >> >>> useful > >> >>> tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts > >> >>> prominent > >> >>> in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers > donât > >> >>> look > >> >>> at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet > >> >>>> <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: > how > >> >>>> to invoke GTSpotter > >> >>>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email > either; I > >> >>>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before > >> >>>> and > >> >>>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the > shortcut > >> >>>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such > >> >>>> behaviors in the image? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > >> >>> > >> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > >> >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of > >> >>> Chile > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Damien Pollet

I've seen #includesSubstring: in GTSpotterCandidatesProcessor>>is:matching: as wellâ¦ is it duplication or a legitimately different use? (just trying to understand the architecture) On 9 January 2015 at 14:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > The includesSubstring: is the simplest thing we could do to get some value > out of the interface. More is definitely required in this direction. > > To build a custom search logic, you should use "processor filter: [...]". > > For an example, look at GTSpotter>>spotterImplementorsFor: aStep. > > This is still too complicated and we need to simplify it. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Damien Pollet > <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Back to this thread! >> >> I'm not completely fond of the way GTSpotter matches candidates using >> just #includesSubstring: >> Are there provisions already to rank candidates instead of binary >> matching/rejecting them? I'd like to try one of the fuzzy matching >> algorithms that other quick-selection tools have. >> >> On 24 December 2014 at 02:36, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas >> <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting >> > "KMRepository >> > default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other thread >> > today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just >> > about my >> > project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, tables, >> > etc) >> > and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state >> > of >> > the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository >> > default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my >> > outliner, >> > the tree gets empty). >> > >> > Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Offray >> > >> > El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: >> > >> >> Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: >> >> Inspect: >> >> KMRepository default. >> >> >> >> With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely formatted. >> >> I >> >> finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very >> >> happy >> >> user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). >> >> >> >> -Ed >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is too >> >>> low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching until >> >>> somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something >> >>> else >> >>> :-/ >> >>> >> >>> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either >> >>> :-( >> >>> Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that lists >> >>> useful >> >>> tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts >> >>> prominent >> >>> in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers donât >> >>> look >> >>> at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). >> >>> >> >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet >> >>>> <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: how >> >>>> to invoke GTSpotter >> >>>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email either; I >> >>>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. >> >>>> >> >>>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before >> >>>> and >> >>>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the shortcut >> >>>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such >> >>>> behaviors in the image? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >>> >> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of >> >>> Chile >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Tudor Girba

The includesSubstring: is the simplest thing we could do to get some value out of the interface. More is definitely required in this direction. To build a custom search logic, you should use "processor filter: [...]". For an example, look at GTSpotter>>spotterImplementorsFor: aStep. This is still too complicated and we need to simplify it. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Back to this thread! > > I'm not completely fond of the way GTSpotter matches candidates using > just #includesSubstring: > Are there provisions already to rank candidates instead of binary > matching/rejecting them? I'd like to try one of the fuzzy matching > algorithms that other quick-selection tools have. > > On 24 December 2014 at 02:36, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting > "KMRepository > > default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other thread > > today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just > about my > > project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, tables, > etc) > > and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state of > > the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository > > default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my outliner, > > the tree gets empty). > > > > Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Offray > > > > El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: > > > >> Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: > >> Inspect: > >> KMRepository default. > >> > >> With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely formatted. I > >> finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very happy > >> user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). > >> > >> -Ed > >> > >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is too > >>> low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching until > >>> somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something > else > >>> :-/ > >>> > >>> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either :-( > >>> Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that lists > useful > >>> tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts > prominent > >>> in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers donât > look > >>> at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). > >>> > >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet < > damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: how > >>>> to invoke GTSpotter > >>>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email either; I > >>>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. > >>>> > >>>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before and > >>>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the shortcut > >>>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such > >>>> behaviors in the image? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > >>> > >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of > Chile > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Damien Pollet

Back to this thread! I'm not completely fond of the way GTSpotter matches candidates using just #includesSubstring: Are there provisions already to rank candidates instead of binary matching/rejecting them? I'd like to try one of the fuzzy matching algorithms that other quick-selection tools have. On 24 December 2014 at 02:36, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting "KMRepository > default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other thread > today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just about my > project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, tables, etc) > and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state of > the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository > default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my outliner, > the tree gets empty). > > Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: > >> Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: >> Inspect: >> KMRepository default. >> >> With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely formatted. I >> finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very happy >> user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). >> >> -Ed >> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >>> >>> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is too >>> low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching until >>> somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something else >>> :-/ >>> >>> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either :-( >>> Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that lists useful >>> tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts prominent >>> in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers donât look >>> at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). >>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' >>>> >>>> >>>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: how >>>> to invoke GTSpotter >>>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email either; I >>>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. >>>> >>>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before and >>>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the shortcut >>>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such >>>> behaviors in the image? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>> >>> >> >> >> > >

Jan. 9, 2015

[ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi, beside the existing "OS-Windows" support for Windows operating system the "Pharo OS project" (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS) now also has new subprojects for "OS-Unix" and "OS-Linux-Ubuntu" with some initial support for these native platforms as well. You can load it from the config browser in Pharo 4.0. I guess the attached screenshot will explain it all... Bye T.

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Accommodation for Pharo Days

by stepharo

Yes lille can be pretty crowded! Le 8/1/15 16:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > We just booked our accommodation for the Pharo Days and we noticed that general availability of rooms was pretty low. So it is probably a good idea to book on time. > > To help the organisers, please register on time for the conference itself too. > > Sven > > http://pharodays2015.pharo.org > > >

Jan. 8, 2015