January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Seaside and JQuery/JQueryUI

by sergio_101

at one point, there was a section of seaside that demonstrated using jquery and jqueryui with seaside.. along with code examples. that was SUPER helpful. I can't seem to find that anywhere. does anyone know if it's still part of seaside? thanks!

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] passing json from seaside to javascript

by sergio_101

oh! i was going to write the javascript function in an included javascript file.. i didn't know you could define javascript functions on the seaside side.. On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 11:59:15 AM Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm writing without testing it, but I think it might work: > > Option A. > 1. Create a named, global javascript function from Seaside that will > be called as the callback for the "control changed" event. > 2. Within that global function perform an AJAX JSON call to seaside > and pass its response to the javascript function (global?) that will > re-render the section of the screen. > > This way you'll only have one function to handle the callback and one > seaside callback to handle the JSON request. > > I'm doing something similar to what you need to handle events from a > JQ plugin and it works fine without leakage one the client or the > server. > > Regards, > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-01-16 13:08 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > > hi, esteban.. > > > > the json object is a representation of the pharo object. i just need to > get > > that json object (in its updated form) available to a javascript > function.. > > > > the pseudo code for javascript would be something like: > > > > control changed > > update json object (pharo/seaside does this) > > rerender section of screen using json > > > > so, to answer both of your questions, yes.. > > > > thanks! > > > > > > On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 10:41:27 AM Esteban A. Maringolo > > <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Sergio, > >> > >> I don't fully understand what you need to do. > >> > >> 1. Do you need to pass a JSON object to a globally accessible > >> javascript function? > >> 2. Is the JSON object dynamically generated as a response to an AJAX > call? > >> > >> Regards! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Esteban A. Maringolo > >> > >> > >> 2015-01-16 12:11 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > >> > i am currently working on an app that uses a javascript library to > >> > render > >> > the state of an object inside seaside. i am trying to figure out the > >> > best > >> > way to transfer the state of object to javascript. > >> > > >> > the state of the machine changes via form inputs and ajax. > >> > > >> > i already have the code to convert the state of my object to json, so > i > >> > am > >> > thinking i can do this one of two ways.. > >> > > >> > via ajax, inject the json code into a variable in a function that is > >> > fired > >> > off by ajax. i just am not sure how to inject this json string into > the > >> > page > >> > where it would look like the contents of a variable. any ideas? > >> > > >> > or, i could make a component that just spits out the current state as > a > >> > json > >> > string. this way, when the value of a form element changes, that value > >> > is > >> > sent over ajax to seaside, and seaside can answer back with the new > >> > state as > >> > a json string. i am just not sure how to implement this, either. any > >> > ideas? > >> > > >> > let me know if there is a better approach to this, also. > >> > > >> > thanks! > >> > > > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by blake

Looks like that SO question was re-opened. Maybe SO can be educated? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > All Pharo discussions have taken place on this mailing for a long time. > Even after starting pharo-users, for people who were already longtime > readers of this list favored this list for any and all discussions > concerning Pharo. It will be a culture shift for longtime Pharo users, > lurkers. It will take some effort and some time but it would be worthwhile > for the long term health of the community. I think it would be a good thing > to start encouraging off pharo-dev topic posts toward pharo-users and begin > the culture change. > > -1 on StackOverflow > > Every time I search for something I am trying to learn or discover and I > find a question exactly matching what I want to know. It it shut down by > the moderators. What I want to know is valid. But it doesn't match their > limited view of the world so it gets moderated. I continue searching > elsewhere because it is still information I need and an answer I want even > if SO doesn't find it valid. Ugh! > > Looking at the Pharo section on SO I find it states that there are 436 > messages tagged with Pharo. > When I do this search on Google: "closed as" pharo site:stackoverflow.com > I get 288 results. > closed as off-topic, closed as not constructive, closed as primarily > opinion based, closed as too broad, ... > > Example: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27757766/how-to- > wrap-a-morph-into-a-window-in-pharo-v3 > > This person asked a question and it was closed. But guess what. I imagine > they still really wanted an answer. Even it it doesn't fit SO's format. > > And mostly (my guess from what I saw) closed by people who are not part of > this community. SO they are imposing their community rules on our > community. I am not real big on that. > > I also find SO not as good for building community. Community is very > important. Especially for smaller groups like Pharo. I haven't spent a lot > of time here in a while. But all of the long time readers will be familiar > with who I am. The new readers not yet. I can jump in on this list and read > new stuff and am familiar with the players. This is a great asset. > > I have explored learning F#. One of things I have struggled with is where > is the community? Where do I engage in conversation? > I love that Pharo has a central location for community. These mailing > lists. If I have a question. If I want to have a conversation. I know where > to do so. I do not want to see that fragmented into mailing list + whatever > forum some other person happens to like for the moment. And you can't have > this conversation on SO. Or many others which happen here. > > Just my opinion and my experience. It is worth what you paid. :) > > Jimmie > > > > On 1/15/2015 1:24 AM, stepharo wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. >> We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this >> is important >> for our concentration. >> I really like the other discussions but we should have them in >> Pharo-users. >> I think that it makes sense. >> >> Stef >> >> > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] A simple debugger for stepping though bytecodes.

by Andrei Chis

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I am quite interested in plugin a Roassal visualization to a debugger. > I will discuss with Rosario, but maybe you have worked on something on > your side? Would it be hard to have this? > I didn't got a chance to work more on it, but a simple version is quite easy to implement following the same implementation as the one from the RProfiler debugger. Cheers, Andrei > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > We've just made a simple debugger for stepping through bytecodes. It's > still just the first version so a lot of things can still be improved. > > > > More info here: > https://chisvasileandrei.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/a-bytecode-debugger/ > > > > Cheers, > > Andrei > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] passing json from seaside to javascript

by Esteban A. Maringolo

I'm writing without testing it, but I think it might work: Option A. 1. Create a named, global javascript function from Seaside that will be called as the callback for the "control changed" event. 2. Within that global function perform an AJAX JSON call to seaside and pass its response to the javascript function (global?) that will re-render the section of the screen. This way you'll only have one function to handle the callback and one seaside callback to handle the JSON request. I'm doing something similar to what you need to handle events from a JQ plugin and it works fine without leakage one the client or the server. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-01-16 13:08 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > hi, esteban.. > > the json object is a representation of the pharo object. i just need to get > that json object (in its updated form) available to a javascript function.. > > the pseudo code for javascript would be something like: > > control changed > update json object (pharo/seaside does this) > rerender section of screen using json > > so, to answer both of your questions, yes.. > > thanks! > > > On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 10:41:27 AM Esteban A. Maringolo > <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Sergio, >> >> I don't fully understand what you need to do. >> >> 1. Do you need to pass a JSON object to a globally accessible >> javascript function? >> 2. Is the JSON object dynamically generated as a response to an AJAX call? >> >> Regards! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2015-01-16 12:11 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >> > i am currently working on an app that uses a javascript library to >> > render >> > the state of an object inside seaside. i am trying to figure out the >> > best >> > way to transfer the state of object to javascript. >> > >> > the state of the machine changes via form inputs and ajax. >> > >> > i already have the code to convert the state of my object to json, so i >> > am >> > thinking i can do this one of two ways.. >> > >> > via ajax, inject the json code into a variable in a function that is >> > fired >> > off by ajax. i just am not sure how to inject this json string into the >> > page >> > where it would look like the contents of a variable. any ideas? >> > >> > or, i could make a component that just spits out the current state as a >> > json >> > string. this way, when the value of a form element changes, that value >> > is >> > sent over ajax to seaside, and seaside can answer back with the new >> > state as >> > a json string. i am just not sure how to implement this, either. any >> > ideas? >> > >> > let me know if there is a better approach to this, also. >> > >> > thanks! >> >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] passing json from seaside to javascript

by sergio_101

hi, esteban.. the json object is a representation of the pharo object. i just need to get that json object (in its updated form) available to a javascript function.. the pseudo code for javascript would be something like: control changed update json object (pharo/seaside does this) rerender section of screen using json so, to answer both of your questions, yes.. thanks! On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 10:41:27 AM Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sergio, > > I don't fully understand what you need to do. > > 1. Do you need to pass a JSON object to a globally accessible > javascript function? > 2. Is the JSON object dynamically generated as a response to an AJAX call? > > Regards! > > > > > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-01-16 12:11 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > > i am currently working on an app that uses a javascript library to render > > the state of an object inside seaside. i am trying to figure out the best > > way to transfer the state of object to javascript. > > > > the state of the machine changes via form inputs and ajax. > > > > i already have the code to convert the state of my object to json, so i > am > > thinking i can do this one of two ways.. > > > > via ajax, inject the json code into a variable in a function that is > fired > > off by ajax. i just am not sure how to inject this json string into the > page > > where it would look like the contents of a variable. any ideas? > > > > or, i could make a component that just spits out the current state as a > json > > string. this way, when the value of a form element changes, that value is > > sent over ajax to seaside, and seaside can answer back with the new > state as > > a json string. i am just not sure how to implement this, either. any > ideas? > > > > let me know if there is a better approach to this, also. > > > > thanks! > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] passing json from seaside to javascript

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Sergio, I don't fully understand what you need to do. 1. Do you need to pass a JSON object to a globally accessible javascript function? 2. Is the JSON object dynamically generated as a response to an AJAX call? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-01-16 12:11 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > i am currently working on an app that uses a javascript library to render > the state of an object inside seaside. i am trying to figure out the best > way to transfer the state of object to javascript. > > the state of the machine changes via form inputs and ajax. > > i already have the code to convert the state of my object to json, so i am > thinking i can do this one of two ways.. > > via ajax, inject the json code into a variable in a function that is fired > off by ajax. i just am not sure how to inject this json string into the page > where it would look like the contents of a variable. any ideas? > > or, i could make a component that just spits out the current state as a json > string. this way, when the value of a form element changes, that value is > sent over ajax to seaside, and seaside can answer back with the new state as > a json string. i am just not sure how to implement this, either. any ideas? > > let me know if there is a better approach to this, also. > > thanks!

Jan. 16, 2015

passing json from seaside to javascript

by sergio_101

i am currently working on an app that uses a javascript library to render the state of an object inside seaside. i am trying to figure out the best way to transfer the state of object to javascript. the state of the machine changes via form inputs and ajax. i already have the code to convert the state of my object to json, so i am thinking i can do this one of two ways.. via ajax, inject the json code into a variable in a function that is fired off by ajax. i just am not sure how to inject this json string into the page where it would look like the contents of a variable. any ideas? or, i could make a component that just spits out the current state as a json string. this way, when the value of a form element changes, that value is sent over ajax to seaside, and seaside can answer back with the new state as a json string. i am just not sure how to implement this, either. any ideas? let me know if there is a better approach to this, also. thanks!

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code diff between metacello versions

by Norbert Hartl

Doru, I mean the code diffs. Metacello versions resolve to a list of packages with versions. Each package with same name but different versions leads to code diffs in the classes,â¦ etc. What I want is a complete diff of all classes, methods of the packages in that metacello config. Norbert > Am 16.01.2015 um 14:02 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > You mean like this: > from := String cr join: ((ConfigurationOfGToolkit project version: '0.21-baseline') spec packages list collect: #name). > to := String cr join: ((ConfigurationOfGToolkit project version: '0.20-baseline') spec packages list collect: #name). > > (DiffMorph new > from: from > to: to) openInWindow > > ? > > <a DiffMorph(1027080192).png> > > Doru > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > Is there a tool or a code snippet which can show a code diff (side by side) between the packages of two metacello versions? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code diff between metacello versions

by Tudor Girba

You mean like this: from := String cr join: ((ConfigurationOfGToolkit project version: '0.21-baseline') spec packages list collect: #name). to := String cr join: ((ConfigurationOfGToolkit project version: '0.20-baseline') spec packages list collect: #name). (DiffMorph new from: from to: to) openInWindow ? [image: Inline image 1] Doru On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Is there a tool or a code snippet which can show a code diff (side by > side) between the packages of two metacello versions? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 16, 2015